RE: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver
Writing and moving require the same permissions. Also, there is a big difference between root and webroot. Which one are you talking about? Web root. Sorry not the root directory of the server but the webroot. 1 directory back in fact is all I need so the structure would be: Web Cms generator.php Web generated.php So I can protect the CMS directory which currently needs to be chmod 777 in order to write the page (at least that was the only way I could get the write function to work) and then just have the written files drop back into the web root so that if someone typed: http://www.mysite.com/generated.php They would get the page. Not (as I can currently do) http://www.mysite.com/cms/generated.php Thanks. Steve Jackson Web Development and Marketing Manager Viola Systems Ltd. http://www.violasystems.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile +358 50 343 5159 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver
On Friday 11 July 2003 15:20, Steve Jackson wrote: Writing and moving require the same permissions. Also, there is a big difference between root and webroot. Which one are you talking about? Web root. Sorry not the root directory of the server but the webroot. 1 directory back in fact is all I need so the structure would be: Web Cms generator.php Web generated.php So I can protect the CMS directory which currently needs to be chmod 777 in order to write the page (at least that was the only way I could get the write function to work) and then just have the written files drop back into the web root so that if someone typed: http://www.mysite.com/generated.php They would get the page. Not (as I can currently do) http://www.mysite.com/cms/generated.php You can use php's ftp functions to write the file into your webroot directory. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* One enemy soldier is never enough, but two is entirely too many -- Murphy's Military Laws n68 */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver
Interesting. Do I need to open an FTP connection do you think or use wrappers? I tried this: // Define the filename to write to. $filename = 'test.txt'; // Open the file for overwriting. $fp = fopen($filename, w); // Write the string to the file $write = fputs($fp, $string); // Close the file fclose($fp); // rename the filename in the root directory to the pagename rename($filename, $pagename.php); $url = 172.16.2.4/~stephenj/misc/webpage; $final_url = ftp://$url/$pagename.php;; $fp2 = fopen(ftp://$url/cms/$pagename.php;, r); Line 59. $move = fputs($fp2, $final_url); fclose($fp2); // end of function. and get a really odd error: Warning: fopen(ftp://172.16.2.4/~stephenj/misc/webpage/cms/this_wont_work.php,; r) - Inappropriate ioctl for device on line 59 Any ideas people? Steve Jackson Web Development and Marketing Manager Viola Systems Ltd. http://www.violasystems.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile +358 50 343 5159 -Original Message- From: Jason Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. heinäkuuta 2003 11:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver On Friday 11 July 2003 15:20, Steve Jackson wrote: Writing and moving require the same permissions. Also, there is a big difference between root and webroot. Which one are you talking about? Web root. Sorry not the root directory of the server but the webroot. 1 directory back in fact is all I need so the structure would be: Web Cms generator.php Web generated.php So I can protect the CMS directory which currently needs to be chmod 777 in order to write the page (at least that was the only way I could get the write function to work) and then just have the written files drop back into the web root so that if someone typed: http://www.mysite.com/generated.php They would get the page. Not (as I can currently do) http://www.mysite.com/cms/generated.php You can use php's ftp functions to write the file into your webroot directory. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* One enemy soldier is never enough, but two is entirely too many -- Murphy's Military Laws n68 */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver
Write the file with ftp right away: // Define the filename to write to. $filename = 'ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/your_webdir/test.txt'; // Open the file for overwriting. $fp = fopen($filename, w); // Write the string to the file $write = fputs($fp, $string); // Close the file fclose($fp); -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver
Same error. Warning: fopen(ftp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/misc/webpage/cms/test.txt,w) - Inappropriate ioctl for device in /home/stephenj/public_html/misc/webpage/cms/generator.php on line 51 Think this is going to get too complicated for a user interface as well so I might have to abandon this idea. I think I'll just try uploading a template file with it's unique ID rather than writing one directly to the server. I don't want to have to have users put their ftp username and password into the CMS for it to work. Unless you think I am not far from success with this method? All I wanted was for a file to be written into a safe directory and then moved automatically to the webroot. Steve Jackson Web Development and Marketing Manager Viola Systems Ltd. http://www.violasystems.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile +358 50 343 5159 -Original Message- From: Marek Kilimajer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. heinäkuuta 2003 13:32 To: Steve Jackson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver Write the file with ftp right away: // Define the filename to write to. $filename = 'ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/your_webdir/test.txt'; // Open the file for overwriting. $fp = fopen($filename, w); // Write the string to the file $write = fputs($fp, $string); // Close the file fclose($fp); -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver
On Friday 11 July 2003 18:54, Steve Jackson wrote: Same error. Warning: fopen(ftp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/misc/webpage/cms/test.txt,w) - Inappropriate ioctl for device in /home/stephenj/public_html/misc/webpage/cms/generator.php on line 51 You *are* using the correct user/pass? It should be the same as what you use to upload files to your webroot. If you can't get this to work then try the ftp functions. Think this is going to get too complicated for a user interface as well so I might have to abandon this idea. I think I'll just try uploading a template file with it's unique ID rather than writing one directly to the server. I don't want to have to have users put their ftp username and password into the CMS for it to work. Alternatively, you could consider storing them in a DB. Unless you think I am not far from success with this method? All I wanted was for a file to be written into a safe directory and then moved automatically to the webroot. I still don't understand (ie you still haven't explained) why you're creating the file somewhere then move it elsewhere. Why can you not use it where it's created, or create it where it's to be used? -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * -- Search the list archives before you post http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general -- /* On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog. -- Cartoon caption */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver
You are not that far away. It seems to me you have allow_url_fopen off. Then you need to store your file in a temporary location, use ftp functions to upload it (the example in the manual is all you need), and then remove the temporary file. But this again needs the ftp extenssion enabled. Steve Jackson wrote: Same error. Warning: fopen(ftp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/misc/webpage/cms/test.txt,w) - Inappropriate ioctl for device in /home/stephenj/public_html/misc/webpage/cms/generator.php on line 51 Think this is going to get too complicated for a user interface as well so I might have to abandon this idea. I think I'll just try uploading a template file with it's unique ID rather than writing one directly to the server. I don't want to have to have users put their ftp username and password into the CMS for it to work. Unless you think I am not far from success with this method? All I wanted was for a file to be written into a safe directory and then moved automatically to the webroot. Steve Jackson Web Development and Marketing Manager Viola Systems Ltd. http://www.violasystems.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile +358 50 343 5159 -Original Message- From: Marek Kilimajer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. heinäkuuta 2003 13:32 To: Steve Jackson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver Write the file with ftp right away: // Define the filename to write to. $filename = 'ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/your_webdir/test.txt'; // Open the file for overwriting. $fp = fopen($filename, w); // Write the string to the file $write = fputs($fp, $string); // Close the file fclose($fp); -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver
You *are* using the correct user/pass? It should be the same as what you use to upload files to your webroot. If you can't get this to work then try the ftp functions. Yes I am. Alternatively, you could consider storing them in a DB. Yes that's what I was thinking they only need put the username password in once so it might not be such a bad idea. But more I think about this I'm doing this in a strange way. If I upload the file directly to root rather than write it then I won't have any problems. Doesn't matter who owns the file then. I still don't understand (ie you still haven't explained) why you're creating the file somewhere then move it elsewhere. Why can you not use it where it's created, or create it where it's to be used? I can't create it where it's meant to be used by writing the file because it would mean changing the permissions of the web root directory to chmod 777. That was the only way I could get the generator file to write the php page by 'chmodding' the directory that the files were being created in to 777. If I do that to the web root it's a security risk. My idea and it's turned out to be a bad one was to put the generator file: ie the file writing the page on the fly in a safe directory IE outside the webroot or in a protected directory. Then move the file to the web root from the safe directory. If there is a way to do what you suggest without a security risk I'd buy you a beer and send it to you via ASDL if you'd tell me how ;o). Cheers, Steve. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver
Steve Jackson wrote: You *are* using the correct user/pass? It should be the same as what you use to upload files to your webroot. If you can't get this to work then try the ftp functions. Yes I am. Alternatively, you could consider storing them in a DB. Yes that's what I was thinking they only need put the username password in once so it might not be such a bad idea. But more I think about this I'm doing this in a strange way. If I upload the file directly to root rather than write it then I won't have any problems. Doesn't matter who owns the file then. It does matter in safe mode, unless safe_mode_include_dir is properly set up. I still don't understand (ie you still haven't explained) why you're creating the file somewhere then move it elsewhere. Why can you not use it where it's created, or create it where it's to be used? I can't create it where it's meant to be used by writing the file because it would mean changing the permissions of the web root directory to chmod 777. That was the only way I could get the generator file to write the php page by 'chmodding' the directory that the files were being created in to 777. If I do that to the web root it's a security risk. My idea and it's turned out to be a bad one was to put the generator file: ie the file writing the page on the fly in a safe directory IE outside the webroot or in a protected directory. Then move the file to the web root from the safe directory. Still this would not work for the same reason you cannot write it there directly, the permissions cannot be circumvented. If there is a way to do what you suggest without a security risk I'd buy you a beer and send it to you via ASDL if you'd tell me how ;o). Cheers, Steve. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Please assist - been on this for hours - Permissions onserver
Steve Jackson wrote: I don't particularly need to *write* to the root directory. I do need to move the file to the root directory though as it's part of a CMS system. I can write the file to a directory which is adequately protected, but there has to be a way to move the file after it is written (to the root from said protected directory). The file is designed to be generated by another user. There are easier ways to design a CMS system I realise but this is my goal, to allow a user to simply generate a file which then is placed in the webroot after it has been written. I thought that this would be the easy part. Any more ideas? Thanks for your help Jason I appreciate it. Writing and moving require the same permissions. Also, there is a big difference between root and webroot. Which one are you talking about? - Brad -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
