Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[~~~i LeoNid ~~]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 06:35:06 +0900 impersonator of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maxim Maletsky) planted &I saw in
php.general:

>Then why would you post this to the list instead of emailing me directly?
>
"Then" what? I don't see clause here:) I repeat for BEGINNERS: "Plse,
don't top-post". I 'dn't respond to this one at all, was it not cc:-ed to
a pub group as well, as it feels too filthy to me, sorry. 

>We all like to express ourselves, including you Lyonya, then do so to only

First of all are you talking of "Lyona Bank" here ^^?:) I have no
connection to nice French, my Russian-speaking friend:)

>whom should read this - me (you have with me, right?)
>
I don't have _anything_ with you personaly, that i know of. (With your
kind - may be:). The response is of some public interest though.

>I, honestly, apologize for starting this thread, but DO BLAME most of the
>others who still keep it alive after few days as it's hot.
>It is totally irrelevant for PHP programmers.
>
You over_apollo_gizing, my fr. Nice habit:) Is it actually a "pub lic
announcement" to shurUp, seniORE?:) And it _is_ relevant to programming
(including PHP) as it is about stealing software products.
>
>P.S: the reason this goes CC'ed to the list is in fact to stop it.

This statement is not even funny:)

>Yoroshiku onegaishimasu,
>
I admire you POLIglotIC (speaking many languages) talents. Though, it
would be nice, if you had included tran S fr. Japanese, for "some of us" -
ignorant in .jp:)

>Maxim Maletsky
>
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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Maxim Maletsky]

Then why would you post this to the list instead of emailing me directly?

We all like to express ourselves, including you Lyonya, then do so to only
whom should read this - me (you have with me, right?)

I, honestly, apologize for starting this thread, but DO BLAME most of the
others who still keep it alive after few days as it's hot.
It is totally irrelevant for PHP programmers.


P.S: the reason this goes CC'ed to the list is in fact to stop it.
Yoroshiku onegaishimasu,

Maxim Maletsky




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Behalf Of ~~~i LeoNid ~~
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 11:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor


On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 05:51:29 +0900 impersonator of Maxim Maletsky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> planted &I saw in mail.common:

>yeah I do, not for doing it, but for giving this stupid topic to the list.
>we should moderate ourselves, I think.
>
And we'd better begin with NOT top-posting for better consumption:). And
"to bring or not to bring" the topic up is up to you, as well as to later
apologize (to 'sin' and confess is much more appreciated habit in some
cultures, then to NOT do either; if you _consider_ it a 'sin' [which i
personally don't, concerning speach only]/or wrong done:)

>as for whether to use crackers or not
>
>imagine the following:
>
>would you say the exactly same words as you wrote down here to me if a
>co-worker of yours would come by your desk telling you something about his
>favorite way of obtaining, testing and eventually cracking the software?
>
>you'd probably limit yourself by saying: "well, I usually buy the software
I
>need and I know all these places to get it broke, but if you crack still...
>just make sure our boss doesn't know ..."
>
Well, if it would be put so point blank, as you did in this thread, i'd
respond the same way - i did. Otherwise, i could discuss and try to
convince and express my (the only right:) views more tactfully.

Overall you (Galilea:) psychologic test has no real value, as everything
is bugged in "civilised" societies, and your boss will know anyway (even
if you only _think_ about it:), and you may tell me, the "co-worker":

1. if you are stupid enough to not realize it,
2. for the "freindship" testing purpouse, wich is very disgusting,
3. as a provoker and in order to have a "right" to blame someone on
"treason" if mesures are taken by those "bug" utilisers.

You see all 3 points are bd for your:) But the worst, to my mind - is
not the #3, but #2 :)

>guessed?
>
No, as you can see:)

>we all kinda talk in here but that means nothing. (unless we're fixing the
>codes for others - what mainly this list was created for)

Bag your pardon? All aND any communication is based on some code,
(linguistic, cultural/educational, professional, etc). And it is
(communication) misused specifically to break the "code". Fresh example:

If php.general on USENET, on wich i followed the thread, is the same as
mailing list; it didn't deliver (there may be maintanance excuses, as
always:) this your post and  some other; and if i didn't receive cc: from
Alexandr. S. and you by e-mail (and AS response to your post came much
earlier, then your post itself:) i wouldn't know about it. I also haven't
found appropriate articles on WEB php.net archive, and even after
subscription to the li(A)st, didn't find a way to find/retrieve it yet, (2
days are enough, i think - even for "unpatients" - like myself:)

So what the specific code fixture is this .general for?:) And speaches
s/t make use:)

>most of us, we still crack, and search, and crack...
>most of us...
>
Well, it is good, that you at least said "most" and not "all", as many
public 'is real' speakers like to declare:) I 4 1 wouldn't speak for any,
but myself:) So i am not (always:) US.

>-maxim maletsky
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:31 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor
>
>
>On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:52:14 +0900 impersonator of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(Maxim Maletsky) planted &I saw in php.general:
>
>>I do buy software when I respect it's quality, but just to try I usually
>>crack it first to see how it works.
>>
>Well. The word for this is "stealing", and should be dealt as such..
>Besides, shareware/demos allow you to try it anyway; and how could you
>crack something else?:) besides obtaining it illegaly - and that's double
>robbery.
>
>There are lot of free (and good) software around. The things are just in
>to be 

Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[~~~i LeoNid ~~]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 05:51:29 +0900 impersonator of Maxim Maletsky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> planted &I saw in mail.common:

>yeah I do, not for doing it, but for giving this stupid topic to the list.
>we should moderate ourselves, I think.
>
And we'd better begin with NOT top-posting for better consumption:). And
"to bring or not to bring" the topic up is up to you, as well as to later
apologize (to 'sin' and confess is much more appreciated habit in some
cultures, then to NOT do either; if you _consider_ it a 'sin' [which i
personally don't, concerning speach only]/or wrong done:)

>as for whether to use crackers or not 
>
>imagine the following:
>
>would you say the exactly same words as you wrote down here to me if a
>co-worker of yours would come by your desk telling you something about his
>favorite way of obtaining, testing and eventually cracking the software?
>
>you'd probably limit yourself by saying: "well, I usually buy the software I
>need and I know all these places to get it broke, but if you crack still...
>just make sure our boss doesn't know ..."
>
Well, if it would be put so point blank, as you did in this thread, i'd
respond the same way - i did. Otherwise, i could discuss and try to
convince and express my (the only right:) views more tactfully.

Overall you (Galilea:) psychologic test has no real value, as everything
is bugged in "civilised" societies, and your boss will know anyway (even
if you only _think_ about it:), and you may tell me, the "co-worker": 

1. if you are stupid enough to not realize it,
2. for the "freindship" testing purpouse, wich is very disgusting,
3. as a provoker and in order to have a "right" to blame someone on
"treason" if mesures are taken by those "bug" utilisers.

You see all 3 points are bd for your:) But the worst, to my mind - is
not the #3, but #2 :)

>guessed?
>
No, as you can see:)

>we all kinda talk in here but that means nothing. (unless we're fixing the
>codes for others - what mainly this list was created for)

Bag your pardon? All aND any communication is based on some code,
(linguistic, cultural/educational, professional, etc). And it is
(communication) misused specifically to break the "code". Fresh example:

If php.general on USENET, on wich i followed the thread, is the same as
mailing list; it didn't deliver (there may be maintanance excuses, as
always:) this your post and  some other; and if i didn't receive cc: from
Alexandr. S. and you by e-mail (and AS response to your post came much
earlier, then your post itself:) i wouldn't know about it. I also haven't
found appropriate articles on WEB php.net archive, and even after
subscription to the li(A)st, didn't find a way to find/retrieve it yet, (2
days are enough, i think - even for "unpatients" - like myself:) 

So what the specific code fixture is this .general for?:) And speaches
s/t make use:)

>most of us, we still crack, and search, and crack...
>most of us...
>
Well, it is good, that you at least said "most" and not "all", as many
public 'is real' speakers like to declare:) I 4 1 wouldn't speak for any,
but myself:) So i am not (always:) US.

>-maxim maletsky
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:31 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor
>
>
>On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:52:14 +0900 impersonator of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(Maxim Maletsky) planted &I saw in php.general:
>
>>I do buy software when I respect it's quality, but just to try I usually
>>crack it first to see how it works.
>>
>Well. The word for this is "stealing", and should be dealt as such..
>Besides, shareware/demos allow you to try it anyway; and how could you
>crack something else?:) besides obtaining it illegaly - and that's double
>robbery.
>
>There are lot of free (and good) software around. The things are just in
>to be informed. And information - is often in different kind of Unions
>possesion.. but (i think:) it should be mostly (although sometimes it is a
>product too)
>freely and easily publicly available. (speaking of general information in
>general:)
>
>>Once again, I apologize to the list.
>>
>U do?:)
>
>>-maxim maletsky
>
>i Leonid (not a Union member:) http://nux.home.dk3.com/

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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[~~~i LeoNid ~~]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 05:51:29 +0900 impersonator of Maxim Maletsky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> planted &I saw in mail.common:

>yeah I do, not for doing it, but for giving this stupid topic to the list.
>we should moderate ourselves, I think.
>
And we'd better begin with NOT top-posting for better consumption:). And
"to bring or not to bring" the topic up is up to you, as well as to later
apologize (to 'sin' and confess is much more appreciated habit in some
cultures, then to NOT do either; if you _consider_ it a 'sin' [which i
personally don't, concerning speach only]/or wrong done:)

>as for whether to use crackers or not 
>
>imagine the following:
>
>would you say the exactly same words as you wrote down here to me if a
>co-worker of yours would come by your desk telling you something about his
>favorite way of obtaining, testing and eventually cracking the software?
>
>you'd probably limit yourself by saying: "well, I usually buy the software I
>need and I know all these places to get it broke, but if you crack still...
>just make sure our boss doesn't know ..."
>
Well, if it would be put so point blank, as you did in this thread, i'd
respond the same way - i did. Otherwise, i could discuss and try to
convince and express my (the only right:) views more tactfully.

Overall you (Galilea:) psychologic test has no real value, as everything
is bugged in "civilised" societies, and your boss will know anyway (even
if you only _think_ about it:), and you may tell me, the "co-worker": 

1. if you are stupid enough to not realize it,
2. for the "freindship" testing purpouse, wich is very disgusting,
3. as a provoker and in order to have a "right" to blame someone on
"treason" if mesures are taken by those "bug" utilisers.

You see all 3 points are bd for your:) But the worst, to my mind - is
not the #3, but #2 :)

>guessed?
>
No, as you can see:)

>we all kinda talk in here but that means nothing. (unless we're fixing the
>codes for others - what mainly this list was created for)

Bag your pardon? All aND any communication is based on some code,
(linguistic, cultural/educational, professional, etc). And it is
(communication) misused specifically to break the "code". Fresh example:

If php.general on USENET, on wich i followed the thread, is the same as
mailing list; it didn't deliver (there may be maintanance excuses, as
always:) this your post and  some other; and if i didn't receive cc: from
Alexandr. S. and you by e-mail (and AS response to your post came much
earlier, then your post itself:) i wouldn't know about it. I also haven't
found appropriate articles on WEB php.net archive, and even after
subscription to the li(A)st, didn't find a way to find/retrieve it yet, (2
days are enough, i think - even for "unpatients" - like myself:) 

So what the specific code fixture is this .general for?:) And speaches
s/t make use:)

>most of us, we still crack, and search, and crack...
>most of us...
>
Well, it is good, that you at least said "most" and not "all", as many
public 'is real' speakers like to declare:) I 4 1 wouldn't speak for any,
but myself:) So i am not (always:) US.

>-maxim maletsky
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:31 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor
>
>
>On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:52:14 +0900 impersonator of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(Maxim Maletsky) planted &I saw in php.general:
>
>>I do buy software when I respect it's quality, but just to try I usually
>>crack it first to see how it works.
>>
>Well. The word for this is "stealing", and should be dealt as such..
>Besides, shareware/demos allow you to try it anyway; and how could you
>crack something else?:) besides obtaining it illegaly - and that's double
>robbery.
>
>There are lot of free (and good) software around. The things are just in
>to be informed. And information - is often in different kind of Unions
>possesion.. but (i think:) it should be mostly (although sometimes it is a
>product too)
>freely and easily publicly available. (speaking of general information in
>general:)
>
>>Once again, I apologize to the list.
>>
>U do?:)
>
>>-maxim maletsky
>
>i Leonid (not a Union member:) http://nux.home.dk3.com/

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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Alex Tretjakov]

Somebody known a good PHP editor with support of KOI8?


  

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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[J Smith]

Chris Schneck wrote:

> I've never heard windows 95 and great in the same sentence.
> 

Funnily enough, I have heard the two in the same sentence:

I've heard that Windows 95 turns perfectly good computers into great 
doorstops.

J

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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Chris Lott]

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> I wonder if Emacs runs on win2k it ran on win95 great...

Emacs/Windows runs fine on win2k. 


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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[chris schneck]

I've never heard windows 95 and great in the same sentence.

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From: "Christopher Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "doug"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor


> I wonder if Emacs runs on win2k it ran on win95 great...
>
> -ca
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 12:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor
>
>
> > VIM on Windows.  Free and awesome.  www.vim.org
> >
> > > Hiya everybody,
> > > I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor
on
> > > win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in
a
> > > bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to
> have
> > > problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small
fee
> > > programs doesn't matter Thanks
> > >
> > > Doug Henry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Christopher Allen]

I wonder if Emacs runs on win2k it ran on win95 great...

-ca
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Subject: Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor


> VIM on Windows.  Free and awesome.  www.vim.org
>
> > Hiya everybody,
> > I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
> > win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
> > bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to
have
> > problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
> > programs doesn't matter Thanks
> >
> > Doug Henry
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Michael Champagne, Software Engineer
> Capital Institutional Services, Inc.
> wk: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> hm: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Michael Champagne]

VIM on Windows.  Free and awesome.  www.vim.org

> Hiya everybody,
> I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
> win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
> bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to have
> problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
> programs doesn't matter Thanks
>
> Doug Henry
>
>
>

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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[~~~i LeoNid ~~]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:21:47 -0700 impersonator of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Evan Nemerson) planted &I saw in php.general:

>You wouldn't happen to be "...abridging the freedom of speech...", would 
>you???
>
>No, not everyone knows about astalavista.box.sk. However, most of us do. Why? 
>Because people told us about it. I don't know about you, but I don't spend my 
>free time punching in random URI's.
>
>The word for this is NOT stealing. You are encouraged to download the 
>software by the manufacturer. All you are doing is modifying it. What? It's 
>against the EULA??? Ah, but that is why people use software like the 
>customizer...
>
I guess, since you kind of quoting me, you are trying to speak to i as
well, without "compromizing" yourself with direct reference:). So, are you
climing that by restricting free download officially (when it is not
stated as demo/shareware/free), some manufacturers actually hidenly invite
the opposite:) Well, some - may be - if they aRe cover for CIA or MOSSAD
sayanim:), or in some very back-door-ed/minded plces like IsReal:):

"Don't steal [international {sic}:] pancake from our pan":)

If you put _right_ punctuation mark after "Don't" - you MAY actually treat
it as intvitation for steal:) But in any case the word hewre IS "stealing"
. What is this "CastoMizer" software, btw?

>You don't need to be afraid of the police walking into your house and 
>scanning your computer- if you are wise, as apparently not all of us are.
>
Cum on:) It is all DUN remotely. And is - prerogative of FBI and thier
counterparts in non US plces. (Are you a provoker fr. one of such "nice"
bodies, by chance?:) And crimes do not justify "fight" with them by unjust
means, breaking human rights. And Virtually evryThing can be faked,
evidences included.
>
>I believe that quality software should be rewarded, and in this day and age 
>monetary gain is the main motivation for most people, and therefore the most 
>common reward. However, I believe that the people that ambushed Mr. Maletsky 
>are far worse people than he, for they assaulted him for speaking up.
>
In no way this is true. FutherMore, i _don't_ believe that
self-confessions / pleas could be a main argument in process (contrary to
AM*an "Just'ice" system principles). Objective evidences - although - yes.
But only obtained by LEGAL means (wich do not includes appriory
considering most subjects - guilty until proven innocent, and using it as
a justification for buging/mind reading/etc:)

In this concrete topic, i think that Mr. Maletski didn't have only himself
in mind, and am confronting not him personally, but his statements.

>Mr. Maletsky: Do not apologize to anyone for having the courage to speak up. 
>Those who would smite all intellectual opposition shall only grow weak over 
>time, while dragging the rest of humanity down with them. In order for us to 
>grow as a species, we must work together.
>
With criminals?:) (don't have Mr MM in mind:) I won't.

>I thought that was what open source was all about- working together to better 
>humanity, not just ourselves. I still believe it is, but I believe that those 
>who ambushed Mr. Maletsky are disgraces to this cause. You should be using 
>ASP.
>
Open source is good when it is agreed upon by author/creator:) By
circumstances, i use mostly free software, myself: although am not
particularly interested in Source and hoping it 'll work as designed in
bin. Hovewer the using of free software doesn't place you under the moral
obligation to produce _only_ free (open source or not) software in
exchange; as this use is not a communal things, but descreet agreements
between you and evrey programm author, and not with a society at Large.
>
Regarding ASP, I started with PHP only because IT (and not an ASP) was
supported on the server, where my original site was. And then I liked it
for ability to having work DUN. The only (related to the topic) thing: I
would prefer, that PHP engine should be shipped by _default_ with standard
compiler (like ZEND or whatever) included, so that developing/distributing
compiled scripts would be easier.
>
>-Evan Nemerson
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Why do people with closed minds
>always open their mouths?

Just SharUp:) So who is against the FREE SPEACH?:), judge of closed
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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[John Monfort]

 Amen !


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On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Chris Lambert - WhiteCrown Networks wrote:

> Would you give the same advice if it were Zend Cache? Show some respect,
> please.
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: Maxim Maletsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 'doug' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:41 PM
> Subject: RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor
>
>
> | EditPlus (editplus.com - not free but easily crackable through a simple
> | search on astalavista.box.sk)
> | A great editor - believe me.
> |
> | -maxim
> |
> |
> | -Original Message-
> | From: doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 3:16 AM
> | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Subject: [PHP] a good PHP editor
> |
> |
> | Hiya everybody,
> | I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
> | win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
> | bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to
> have
> | problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
> | programs doesn't matter Thanks
> |
> | Doug Henry
> |
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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Evan Nemerson]

You wouldn't happen to be "...abridging the freedom of speech...", would 
you???

No, not everyone knows about astalavista.box.sk. However, most of us do. Why? 
Because people told us about it. I don't know about you, but I don't spend my 
free time punching in random URI's.

The word for this is NOT stealing. You are encouraged to download the 
software by the manufacturer. All you are doing is modifying it. What? It's 
against the EULA??? Ah, but that is why people use software like the 
customizer...

You don't need to be afraid of the police walking into your house and 
scanning your computer- if you are wise, as apparently not all of us are.


I believe that quality software should be rewarded, and in this day and age 
monetary gain is the main motivation for most people, and therefore the most 
common reward. However, I believe that the people that ambushed Mr. Maletsky 
are far worse people than he, for they assaulted him for speaking up.

Mr. Maletsky: Do not apologize to anyone for having the courage to speak up. 
Those who would smite all intellectual opposition shall only grow weak over 
time, while dragging the rest of humanity down with them. In order for us to 
grow as a species, we must work together.

I thought that was what open source was all about- working together to better 
humanity, not just ourselves. I still believe it is, but I believe that those 
who ambushed Mr. Maletsky are disgraces to this cause. You should be using 
ASP.



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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Schill, Johannes]

> So sprach »Schill, Johannes« am 2001-07-18 18.07.2001 um 22:24:21 +0200 :
> > I haven't seen any other programs for Windows you can edit remote files
> > instead of the usual "download, edit, upload". Let me know if there are
>
> How does that work?  Is it just that it has some kind of simple FTP
> client builtin?

Yes. They had a deal with the creators of ws_ftp. I dont know if they have
their own nowadays.

Best regards,
Johannes Schill


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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Francis Fillion]

Thanks, this mode look better, well it has better color coding then they
old one, option in function are in bold pink... ;)

Chris Lott wrote:
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> Emacs on windows is great, and php-mode (there are a few. One that I have
> a link close to hand for is at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-mode/
> ) is cool. I don't usually recommend it because it can be a pain to get
> setup optimally, but once it is you can do everything within it: edit
> documents, edit code and compile/test, use news, check mail, you name it.
> 
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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Chris Lott]

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Emacs on windows is great, and php-mode (there are a few. One that I have
a link close to hand for is at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/php-mode/
) is cool. I don't usually recommend it because it can be a pain to get
setup optimally, but once it is you can do everything within it: edit
documents, edit code and compile/test, use news, check mail, you name it.

c

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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Francis Fillion]

Well the site where I find it out doesn't seen to have anymore, so here
it is. It doesn't do much except highlighting stuff, no function
completion or something like that and I have access to the C menu, I
should search again I'm sure that I will found something better.



;;PHP MODE from http://zez.org/bf/

(require 'font-lock)
(require 'cc-mode)

(provide 'php-mode)

;;;###autoload
(define-derived-mode php-mode c-mode "PHP3"
  "Major mode for editing PHP code.\n\n\\{php-mode-map}"
  (setq case-fold-search t)
  (turn-on-font-lock)
  (setq font-lock-maximum-decoration t)
  )

;; Make php-mode the default mode for PHP source code buffers.
;;;###autoload
(setq auto-mode-alist
  (append
   '( ("\\.php\\'" . php-mode) ("\\.php3\\'" .
php-mode)("\\.php4\\'" . php-mode) )
   auto-mode-alist))

;; Make a menu keymap (with a prompt string)
;; and make it the menu bar item's definition.
(define-key php-mode-map [menu-bar] (make-sparse-keymap))
(define-key php-mode-map [menu-bar php]
  (cons "PHP3" (make-sparse-keymap "PHP3")))

;; Define specific subcommands in this menu.
(define-key php-mode-map [menu-bar php complete-function]
  '("Complete function name" . php-complete-function))
(define-key php-mode-map
  [menu-bar php document-function]
  '("View function documentation" . php-document-function))
(define-key php-mode-map
  [menu-bar php browse-manual]
  '("Browse manual" . php-browse-manual))

;; Define function name completion function
(defun php-complete-function ()
  "Complete the function name at the point from known PHP3 functions."
  (interactive)
  (message "php-complete-function not implemented yet"))

;; Define function documentation function
(defun php-document-function ()
  "Bring up documentation for the function at the point."
  (interactive)
  (message "php-document-function not implemented yet"))

;; Define function for browsing manual
(defun php-browse-manual ()
  "Bring up manual for PHP3."
  (interactive)
  (message "php-browse-manual not implemented yet"))

;; Define abbreviations and their expansions
(define-abbrev php-mode-abbrev-table "ex" "extends")
(define-abbrev php-mode-abbrev-table "fu" "function")
(define-abbrev php-mode-abbrev-table "GL" "GLOBAL")
(define-abbrev php-mode-abbrev-table "req" "require(")
(define-abbrev php-mode-abbrev-table "ret" "return")

;; Set up font locking
(defconst php-font-lock-keywords-1 nil
  "Subdued level highlighting for PHP mode.")

(defconst php-font-lock-keywords-2 nil
  "Medium level highlighting for PHP mode.")

(defconst php-font-lock-keywords-3 nil
  "Gauchy level highlighting for PHP mode.")

(let* (
   (php-keywords 
(regexp-opt
 '("break" "continue" "do" "else" "for" "if" "return"
   "switch" "while" "super" "new" "extends" "php" ) t))
   (php-types
(regexp-opt
 '("static" "const" "int" "integer" "real" "double" "float"
   "string" "array" "object" "var" "GLOBAL" "function")))
   (php-builtins
(regexp-opt
 '("echo" "print" "require" "include")))
   )
  (setq php-font-lock-keywords-1
(list
 ;; Fontify type specifiers.
 (cons (concat "\\<\\(" php-types "\\)\\>")
'font-lock-type-face)
 ))

  (setq php-font-lock-keywords-2
(append php-font-lock-keywords-1
  (list
   ;; Fontify keywords (except case, default and goto; see below).
   (cons (concat "\\<" php-keywords "\\>") 'font-lock-keyword-face)
   ;;
   ;; Fontify case/goto keywords and targets, and case default/goto
tags.
   '("\\<\\(case\\|goto\\)\\>[ \t]*\\(-?\\sw+\\)?"
 (1 font-lock-keyword-face) (2 font-lock-constant-face nil t))
   ;;
   ;; Fontify all constants.
   '("\\<\\(false\\|null\\|true\\)\\>" .
font-lock-constant-face)
   ;;
   ;; Fontify function declarations
   '("\\<\\(function\\)\\s-+\\(\\sw+\\)\\s-*("
 (1 font-lock-keyword-face)
 (2 font-lock-function-name-face)
 )
   )
  ))

  (setq php-font-lock-keywords-3
(append php-font-lock-keywords-2
  (list
   ;; Fontify function and method names
  
'("\\<\\(\\$\\([a-zA-Z_\x7f-\xff][a-zA-Z0-9_\x7f-\xff]*\\)->\\)?\\([a-zA-Z_\x7f-\xff][a-zA-Z0-9_\x7f-\xff]*\\)\\s-*("
 (2 font-lock-variable-name-face t t)
 (3 font-lock-function-name-face t t)
 )
   ;; Fontify variable name references.
  
'("\\(\\$\\([a-zA-Z_\x7f-\xff][a-zA-Z0-9_\x7f-\xff]*->\\)?\\([a-zA-Z_\x7f-\xff][a-zA-Z0-9_\x7f-\xff]*\\)\\)"
 (1 font-lock-variable-name-face t t)
 (2 font-lock-variable-name-face t t)
 )
   '("\\<\\$\\(this\\)->"
 (1 font-lock-keyword-face t t) ;; "this" as keyword
 )
   ;; Fontify class names
  
'("\\<\\(class\\)\\s-+\\([a-zA-Z_\x7f-\xff][a-zA-Z0-9_\x7f-\xff]*\\)\\(\\(\\s-+extends\\s-+\\)\\([a-zA-Z_\x7f-\xff][a-zA-Z0-9_\x7f-\xff]*\\)\\)?\\s-*\\{"
 (1 font-lock-keyword-face t t)  ;; class keyword
 (2 font-

Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Alexander Skwar]

So sprach »Francis Fillion« am 2001-07-18 18.07.2001 um 18:11:35 -0400 :
>  The best editor is emacs, you can have one in windows too and it's

Actually I like vim better :)  Emacs is just so HUGE :)

> I use they php mode, it's not perfect but it do the job, I will need to

Does Emacs (Emacs?  Hmm, what about XEmacs?) have a PHP mode?  Last time
I checked, it did not - although I used XEmacs back then.

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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Francis Fillion]

 The best editor is emacs, you can have one in windows too and it's
free  as beer ;)

I use they php mode, it's not perfect but it do the job, I will need to
learn lisp someday...

doug wrote:
> 
> Hiya everybody,
> I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
> win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
> bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to have
> problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
> programs doesn't matter Thanks
> 
> Doug Henry
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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Alexander Skwar]

So sprach »Schill, Johannes« am 2001-07-18 18.07.2001 um 22:24:21 +0200 :
> I haven't seen any other programs for Windows you can edit remote files
> instead of the usual "download, edit, upload". Let me know if there are

How does that work?  Is it just that it has some kind of simple FTP
client builtin?

> There are three bad things about this program though;
> 1, The price - $99 usd ($89 if you download it).

Well, we now how do deal with that one, don't we? :(

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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Jay Paulson]

That's what I use and I LOVE it.. but i also hear that homesite and
UltraEdit are very good as well.. never used them so i can't compare.. :)

jay

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> www.textpad.com - very nifty for PHP and more...
> - Original Message -
> From: "doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:16 AM
> Subject: [PHP] a good PHP editor
>
>
> > Hiya everybody,
> > I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
> > win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
> > bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to
> have
> > problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
> > programs doesn't matter Thanks
> >
> > Doug Henry
> >
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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Martin Marconcini]

> HTMLedit (www.chami.com) let's you edit remotely. and has good syntax
> higlighting, browser and there are loads of extensions for it.
>  And it's free
I have had problems w/htmledit... too buggy. Don't know what it could
be. I decided to buy edit+ (my trial was over).

I'm happy w/ edit +.

Apart from that.. htmledit had some problems w/large files... 

Regards,

Martin.




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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

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> I haven't seen any other programs for Windows you can edit remote
> files instead of the usual "download, edit, upload". Let me know if
> there are other good editors with this feature.

HTMLedit (www.chami.com) let's you edit remotely. and has good syntax
higlighting, browser and there are loads of extensions for it.
 And it's free

> There are three bad things about this program though;
> 1, The price - $99 usd ($89 if you download it).
not too bad.

> 2, It takes alot of system resources.

Agreed, it's very hungry and buggy.

> 3, There are still some bugs in their ftp engine.

Not really used this much

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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

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Shall me move this topic to other list? 


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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

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I can't speak for Win9x, but on NT and now 2K, I have been using Homesite
for YEARS, open all the time, editing many pages (I'm lazy so I typically
have 20-30 pages open at any given time), heavy use of regex search and
replace across folders, etc. and I have never run out of resources or had
problems with memory. The only features I have ever had problems with were
some of the deployment scripting features in the Cold Fusion studio
version of Homesite. But now that I don't have to do Cold Fusion any
longer...

I understand Win 9x is a different story. I also know that people's
mileage may vary. But for my money it is the best HTML/XML/PHP/etc editor
out there, for a full-fledged editor. 

Other than that, I highly recommend TextPad.

c

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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Miri]

At 03:38 PM 7/18/01 -0500, Boget, Chris wrote re Homesite and system resources:

>Not alot.  ALOT.  Huge, massive amounts of resources.  I'm
>getting resource low messages from Windows less than 20
>minutes after opening it and it's the only thing running aside
>from my mail client.

How weird. I have an old computer windows Win 98 with only 64M RAM and I've 
never had any problem with Homesite. I'm always running it and at least 2-4 
browser windows and Eudora with no problems.

Perhaps I've just been lucky, but I've been using Homesite since it was 
shareware. :)

take care,
beth


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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[~~~i LeoNid ~~]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:52:14 +0900 impersonator of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Maxim Maletsky) planted &I saw in php.general:

>I do buy software when I respect it's quality, but just to try I usually
>crack it first to see how it works.
>
Well. The word for this is "stealing", and should be dealt as such..
Besides, shareware/demos allow you to try it anyway; and how could you
crack something else?:) besides obtaining it illegaly - and that's double
robbery.

There are lot of free (and good) software around. The things are just in
to be informed. And information - is often in different kind of Unions
possesion.. but (i think:) it should be mostly (although sometimes it is a product too)
freely and easily publicly available. (speaking of general information in general:)

>Once again, I apologize to the list.
>
U do?:)

>-maxim maletsky

i Leonid (not a Union member:) http://nux.home.dk3.com/

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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Boget, Chris]

> I'd like to recommend Allaire HomeSite.

Read their own HS forum before finally deciding.  HS has *alot*
of issues, particularly with memory.
 
> I haven't seen any other programs for Windows you can edit 
> remote files instead of the usual "download, edit, upload". Let 
> me know if there are other good editors with this feature.

The feature I use the most (and need it for the most) is how
it sets up "Projects".  I wish I could find something else that
did that (well).  If I could, I'd move to it in a heartbeat.
 
> There are three bad things about this program though;
> 2, It takes alot of system resources.

Not alot.  ALOT.  Huge, massive amounts of resources.  I'm
getting resource low messages from Windows less than 20
minutes after opening it and it's the only thing running aside
from my mail client.

Chris

Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Schill, Johannes]

I'd like to recommend Allaire HomeSite.

I haven't seen any other programs for Windows you can edit remote files
instead of the usual "download, edit, upload". Let me know if there are
other good editors with this feature.

It supports lots of formats - not just .php, and i think it's _the_ editor
to use if you do presentation programming.

There are three bad things about this program though;
1, The price - $99 usd ($89 if you download it).
2, It takes alot of system resources.
3, There are still some bugs in their ftp engine.

There's a 30-day evaluation to grab from www.allaire.com or
www.macromedia.com

I hope this helps.

Best regards,
Johannes Schill


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From: "doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 8:16 PM
Subject: [PHP] a good PHP editor


> Hiya everybody,
> I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
> win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
> bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to
have
> problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
> programs doesn't matter Thanks
>
> Doug Henry
>
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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Martin Marconcini]

> 
> | EditPlus (editplus.com - not free but easily crackable through a
simple
> | search on astalavista.box.sk) A great editor - believe me.

That is completely off topic... and has nothing to do here...
Warez, Cracks and Serial numbers has their own lists.

And in fact, editplus costs less than 30 dollars. If you can't pay 30
$$$ for a GREAT EDITOR... don't use it. 

Martin Marconcini.



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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Jeff Lewis]

Try PHP Coder, I like it and use it when I don't use Notepad: www.phpide.de

Jeff
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> Ok I downloaded and looked at a few and the winner seems to be
> edit+.Thanks everybody!
> 
> Doug Henry


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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[doug]

Ok I downloaded and looked at a few and the winner seems to be
edit+.Thanks everybody!

Doug Henry

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> Would you give the same advice if it were Zend Cache? Show some respect,
> please.
>
> /* Chris Lambert, CTO - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Web Application Security - www.whitecrown.net
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: Maxim Maletsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 'doug' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:41 PM
> Subject: RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor
>
>
> | EditPlus (editplus.com - not free but easily crackable through a simple
> | search on astalavista.box.sk)
> | A great editor - believe me.
> |
> | -maxim
> |
> |
> | -Original Message-
> | From: doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 3:16 AM
> | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | Subject: [PHP] a good PHP editor
> |
> |
> | Hiya everybody,
> | I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
> | win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
> | bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to
> have
> | problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
> | programs doesn't matter Thanks
> |
> | Doug Henry
> |
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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Chris Lambert - WhiteCrown Networks]

Would you give the same advice if it were Zend Cache? Show some respect,
please.

/* Chris Lambert, CTO - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor


| EditPlus (editplus.com - not free but easily crackable through a simple
| search on astalavista.box.sk)
| A great editor - believe me.
|
| -maxim
|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 3:16 AM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: [PHP] a good PHP editor
|
|
| Hiya everybody,
| I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
| win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
| bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to
have
| problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
| programs doesn't matter Thanks
|
| Doug Henry
|
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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[E. Peter K. Chan]

www.textpad.com - very nifty for PHP and more...
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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:16 AM
Subject: [PHP] a good PHP editor


> Hiya everybody,
> I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
> win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
> bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to
have
> problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
> programs doesn't matter Thanks
>
> Doug Henry
>
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RE: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Phil Spitler]

I like ultraedit32 http://www.ultraedit.com Although it isn't free, the
price is reasonable.

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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [PHP] a good PHP editor
>
>
> Hiya everybody,
> I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
> win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
> bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both
> seem to have
> problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
> programs doesn't matter Thanks
>
> Doug Henry
>
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Re: [PHP] a good PHP editor

[Tyler Longren]

ConTEXT...free, simple, can load HUGE files.

http://www.fixedsys.com/context/

Tyler

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Subject: [PHP] a good PHP editor


> Hiya everybody,
> I'm relatively new to PHP and I'm looking for a good text editor on
> win2k for creating/manipulating php pages. Notepad is great if your in a
> bind, and I've tried phpedit and activestate's Komodo and both seem to
have
> problems (crashing etc...). Anybody got any suggestions? Free/small fee
> programs doesn't matter Thanks
>
> Doug Henry
>
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