[PHP-DOC] #35698 [Opn]: SDO confusing letter
ID: 35698 Updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: Open Bug Type:Documentation problem PHP Version: Irrelevant New Comment: test to see if the property is many-valued.. 2 dots Previous Comments: [2005-12-16 05:11:25] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "or understand the 'SDO_Model_ and 'SDO_DAS_' interfaces" ' missing [2005-12-16 04:35:03] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: sdo/reference.xml After Example 13 "Get/set sequence values", I think there is some confusing things with $letter, $letters_seq and $letter_seq Just before it is written : "All subsequent examples assume that the *$letter_seq* variable has been assigned the sequence for the letter data object." Could you double check please ? Thank you -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35698&edit=1
[PHP-DOC] #35698 [Opn]: SDO confusing letter
ID: 35698 Updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: Open Bug Type:Documentation problem PHP Version: Irrelevant New Comment: "or understand the 'SDO_Model_ and 'SDO_DAS_' interfaces" ' missing Previous Comments: [2005-12-16 04:35:03] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: sdo/reference.xml After Example 13 "Get/set sequence values", I think there is some confusing things with $letter, $letters_seq and $letter_seq Just before it is written : "All subsequent examples assume that the *$letter_seq* variable has been assigned the sequence for the letter data object." Could you double check please ? Thank you -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35698&edit=1
[PHP-DOC] #35698 [NEW]: SDO confusing letter
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operating system: PHP version: Irrelevant PHP Bug Type: Documentation problem Bug description: SDO confusing letter Description: sdo/reference.xml After Example 13 "Get/set sequence values", I think there is some confusing things with $letter, $letters_seq and $letter_seq Just before it is written : "All subsequent examples assume that the *$letter_seq* variable has been assigned the sequence for the letter data object." Could you double check please ? Thank you -- Edit bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35698&edit=1 -- Try a CVS snapshot (PHP 4.4): http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=trysnapshot44 Try a CVS snapshot (PHP 5.1): http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=trysnapshot51 Try a CVS snapshot (PHP 6.0): http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=trysnapshot60 Fixed in CVS: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=fixedcvs Fixed in release: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=alreadyfixed Need backtrace: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=needtrace Need Reproduce Script:http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=needscript Try newer version:http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=oldversion Not developer issue: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=support Expected behavior:http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=notwrong Not enough info: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=notenoughinfo Submitted twice: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=submittedtwice register_globals: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=globals PHP 3 support discontinued: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=php3 Daylight Savings: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=dst IIS Stability:http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=isapi Install GNU Sed: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=gnused Floating point limitations: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=float No Zend Extensions: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=nozend MySQL Configuration Error:http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35698&r=mysqlcfg
[PHP-DOC] cvs: phpdoc /en/reference/sdo reference.xml
jsgoupilFri Dec 16 03:33:00 2005 EDT Modified files: /phpdoc/en/reference/sdoreference.xml Log: typo and space after links http://cvs.php.net/viewcvs.cgi/phpdoc/en/reference/sdo/reference.xml?r1=1.18&r2=1.19&diff_format=u Index: phpdoc/en/reference/sdo/reference.xml diff -u phpdoc/en/reference/sdo/reference.xml:1.18 phpdoc/en/reference/sdo/reference.xml:1.19 --- phpdoc/en/reference/sdo/reference.xml:1.18 Fri Dec 2 16:14:19 2005 +++ phpdoc/en/reference/sdo/reference.xml Fri Dec 16 03:33:00 2005 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ - + @@ -123,8 +123,7 @@ The latest DLLs for the SDO core and the XML DAS can be downloaded from - php_sdo -and + php_sdo and php_sdo_das_xml respectively. @@ -133,8 +132,7 @@ Check out the Relational DAS from CVS to somewhere on the PHP -include_path -. +include_path. @@ -152,8 +150,7 @@ Check out the Relational DAS from CVS to somewhere on the PHP -include_path -. +include_path. @@ -246,8 +243,7 @@ update your include_path in &php.ini; to point to the directory that contains -sdo/DAS/Relational -. +sdo/DAS/Relational. Building SDO on Linux @@ -373,7 +369,7 @@ - XMLHelper/XSDHelper (the XML DAS provide a lot of this functionality) + XMLHelper/XSDHelper (the XML DAS provides a lot of this functionality) @@ -696,7 +692,7 @@
[PHP-DOC] Problems with new CVS web view
The problem can be regenerated at: http://cvs.php.net/viewcvs.cgi/phpdoc/en/appendices/tokens.xml?r1=1.21&r2=1.23 Results: An Exception Has Occurred Python Traceback Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/viewcvs-1.0-dev/lib/viewcvs.py", line 3486, in main request.run_viewcvs() File "/usr/local/viewcvs-1.0-dev/lib/viewcvs.py", line 370, in run_viewcvs self.view_func(self) File "/usr/local/viewcvs-1.0-dev/lib/viewcvs.py", line 2749, in view_diff data.update({ File "/usr/local/viewcvs-1.0-dev/lib/viewcvs.py", line 2358, in rcsdiff_date_reformat date = compat.cvs_strptime(date_str) File "/usr/local/viewcvs-1.0-dev/lib/compat.py", line 51, in cvs_strptime return time.strptime(timestr, '%Y/%m/%d %H:%M:%S')[:-1] + (0,) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/_strptime.py", line 291, in strptime found = format_regex.match(data_string) TypeError: expected string or buffer Looks like happened when two compared versions are identical. I'm not sure, maybe just something wrong with my browser. Please verify it.
[PHP-DOC] #35696 [Opn]: The function "snmp_set_oid_numeric_print" does not exist on the Win32 platform
ID: 35696 User updated by: larryjadams at comcast dot net Reported By: larryjadams at comcast dot net Status: Open Bug Type: Documentation problem Operating System: Win32 PHP Version: 5.1.1 New Comment: It does appear that for some reason, php_snmp is compiled using ucd_snmp based upon the php_info function and parsing the code. Previous Comments: [2005-12-16 00:27:46] larryjadams at comcast dot net At first glance, it appears that the following code should be executed: #ifdef HAVE_NET_SNMP PHP_FE(snmp_set_enum_print, NULL) PHP_FE(snmp_set_oid_numeric_print, NULL) #endif For some reason, the "HAVE_NET_SNMP" constant is not defined although php_snmp is using the NET_SNMP package in Windows. Sounds like a autoconf issue to me. More to follow... [2005-12-16 00:17:32] larryjadams at comcast dot net I will e-mail Harrie and potentially provide workaround code to him. Any chance of implementing in the 4.x, 5.0.x branches? [2005-12-15 23:58:15] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reclassified as docu problem. [2005-12-15 23:56:46] larryjadams at comcast dot net Description: The following function does not exist in the windows environment and it is very important to our tool. snmp_set_oid_numeric_print Reproduce code: --- if function_exists("snmp_set_oid_numeric_print") { print "I'm There\n"; }else{ print "Sadly, I'm Not\n"; } Expected result: We would like the function to be supported. -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35696&edit=1
[PHP-DOC] #35696 [Opn]: The function "snmp_set_oid_numeric_print" does not exist on the Win32 platform
ID: 35696 User updated by: larryjadams at comcast dot net Reported By: larryjadams at comcast dot net Status: Open Bug Type: Documentation problem Operating System: Win32 PHP Version: 5.1.1 New Comment: At first glance, it appears that the following code should be executed: #ifdef HAVE_NET_SNMP PHP_FE(snmp_set_enum_print, NULL) PHP_FE(snmp_set_oid_numeric_print, NULL) #endif For some reason, the "HAVE_NET_SNMP" constant is not defined although php_snmp is using the NET_SNMP package in Windows. Sounds like a autoconf issue to me. More to follow... Previous Comments: [2005-12-16 00:17:32] larryjadams at comcast dot net I will e-mail Harrie and potentially provide workaround code to him. Any chance of implementing in the 4.x, 5.0.x branches? [2005-12-15 23:58:15] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reclassified as docu problem. [2005-12-15 23:56:46] larryjadams at comcast dot net Description: The following function does not exist in the windows environment and it is very important to our tool. snmp_set_oid_numeric_print Reproduce code: --- if function_exists("snmp_set_oid_numeric_print") { print "I'm There\n"; }else{ print "Sadly, I'm Not\n"; } Expected result: We would like the function to be supported. -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35696&edit=1
[PHP-DOC] cvs: phpdoc /en/reference/mysqli/functions mysqli-field-count.xml
nlopess Thu Dec 15 23:27:02 2005 EDT Modified files: /phpdoc/en/reference/mysqli/functions mysqli-field-count.xml Log: fix OO example, per user note http://cvs.php.net/viewcvs.cgi/phpdoc/en/reference/mysqli/functions/mysqli-field-count.xml?r1=1.12&r2=1.13&diff_format=u Index: phpdoc/en/reference/mysqli/functions/mysqli-field-count.xml diff -u phpdoc/en/reference/mysqli/functions/mysqli-field-count.xml:1.12 phpdoc/en/reference/mysqli/functions/mysqli-field-count.xml:1.13 --- phpdoc/en/reference/mysqli/functions/mysqli-field-count.xml:1.12Fri Sep 2 16:55:47 2005 +++ phpdoc/en/reference/mysqli/functions/mysqli-field-count.xml Thu Dec 15 23:27:02 2005 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ - + mysqli_field_count @@ -45,16 +45,16 @@ $mysqli->query( "DROP TABLE IF EXISTS friends"); $mysqli->query( "CREATE TABLE friends (id int, name varchar(20))"); - + $mysqli->query( "INSERT INTO friends VALUES (1,'Hartmut'), (2, 'Ulf')"); $mysqli->real_query($HTTP_POST_VARS['query']); -if (mysqli_field_count($link)) { +if ($mysqli->field_count) { /* this was a select/show or describe query */ $result = $mysqli->store_result(); - + /* process resultset */ $row = $result->fetch_row(); @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ mysqli_query($link, "DROP TABLE IF EXISTS friends"); mysqli_query($link, "CREATE TABLE friends (id int, name varchar(20))"); - + mysqli_query($link, "INSERT INTO friends VALUES (1,'Hartmut'), (2, 'Ulf')"); mysqli_real_query($link, $HTTP_POST_VARS['query']); @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ if (mysqli_field_count($link)) { /* this was a select/show or describe query */ $result = mysqli_store_result($link); - + /* process resultset */ $row = mysqli_fetch_row($result);
[PHP-DOC] #35696 [Opn]: The function "snmp_set_oid_numeric_print" does not exist on the Win32 platform
ID: 35696 User updated by: larryjadams at comcast dot net Reported By: larryjadams at comcast dot net Status: Open Bug Type: Documentation problem Operating System: Win32 PHP Version: 5.1.1 New Comment: I will e-mail Harrie and potentially provide workaround code to him. Any chance of implementing in the 4.x, 5.0.x branches? Previous Comments: [2005-12-15 23:58:15] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reclassified as docu problem. [2005-12-15 23:56:46] larryjadams at comcast dot net Description: The following function does not exist in the windows environment and it is very important to our tool. snmp_set_oid_numeric_print Reproduce code: --- if function_exists("snmp_set_oid_numeric_print") { print "I'm There\n"; }else{ print "Sadly, I'm Not\n"; } Expected result: We would like the function to be supported. -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35696&edit=1
[PHP-DOC] #35696 [Opn]: The function "snmp_set_oid_numeric_print" does not exist on the Win32 platform
ID: 35696 Updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: larryjadams at comcast dot net Status: Open -Bug Type: SNMP related +Bug Type: Documentation problem Operating System: Win32 PHP Version: 5.1.1 New Comment: Reclassified as docu problem. Previous Comments: [2005-12-15 23:56:46] larryjadams at comcast dot net Description: The following function does not exist in the windows environment and it is very important to our tool. snmp_set_oid_numeric_print Reproduce code: --- if function_exists("snmp_set_oid_numeric_print") { print "I'm There\n"; }else{ print "Sadly, I'm Not\n"; } Expected result: We would like the function to be supported. -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35696&edit=1
[PHP-DOC] #35687 [Bgs]: XMLReader constants changed to class constants
ID: 35687 Updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: alex at mikitik dot com Status: Bogus Bug Type: Documentation problem Operating System: Irrelevant PHP Version: Irrelevant New Comment: hum, Wrong message but it is already fixed in CVS. Thank you. Previous Comments: [2005-12-15 19:33:37] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for taking the time to report a problem with PHP. Unfortunately you are not using a current version of PHP -- the problem might already be fixed. Please download a new PHP version from http://www.php.net/downloads.php If you are able to reproduce the bug with one of the latest versions of PHP, please change the PHP version on this bug report to the version you tested and change the status back to "Open". Again, thank you for your continued support of PHP. Already fixed in CVS [2005-12-15 19:27:11] alex at mikitik dot com Description: Looks like in PHP5.1.1, the XMLReader constant definitions changed to class constants (e.g. XMLREADER_ELEMENT to XMLREADER::ELEMENT). This documentation still lists global constants. -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35687&edit=1
[PHP-DOC] #35687 [Opn->Bgs]: XMLReader constants changed to class constants
ID: 35687 Updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: alex at mikitik dot com -Status: Open +Status: Bogus Bug Type: Documentation problem Operating System: Irrelevant PHP Version: Irrelevant New Comment: Thank you for taking the time to report a problem with PHP. Unfortunately you are not using a current version of PHP -- the problem might already be fixed. Please download a new PHP version from http://www.php.net/downloads.php If you are able to reproduce the bug with one of the latest versions of PHP, please change the PHP version on this bug report to the version you tested and change the status back to "Open". Again, thank you for your continued support of PHP. Already fixed in CVS Previous Comments: [2005-12-15 19:27:11] alex at mikitik dot com Description: Looks like in PHP5.1.1, the XMLReader constant definitions changed to class constants (e.g. XMLREADER_ELEMENT to XMLREADER::ELEMENT). This documentation still lists global constants. -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35687&edit=1
[PHP-DOC] #35687 [NEW]: XMLReader constants changed to class constants
From: alex at mikitik dot com Operating system: Irrelevant PHP version: Irrelevant PHP Bug Type: Documentation problem Bug description: XMLReader constants changed to class constants Description: Looks like in PHP5.1.1, the XMLReader constant definitions changed to class constants (e.g. XMLREADER_ELEMENT to XMLREADER::ELEMENT). This documentation still lists global constants. -- Edit bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35687&edit=1 -- Try a CVS snapshot (PHP 4.4): http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=trysnapshot44 Try a CVS snapshot (PHP 5.1): http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=trysnapshot51 Try a CVS snapshot (PHP 6.0): http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=trysnapshot60 Fixed in CVS: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=fixedcvs Fixed in release: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=alreadyfixed Need backtrace: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=needtrace Need Reproduce Script:http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=needscript Try newer version:http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=oldversion Not developer issue: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=support Expected behavior:http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=notwrong Not enough info: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=notenoughinfo Submitted twice: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=submittedtwice register_globals: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=globals PHP 3 support discontinued: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=php3 Daylight Savings: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=dst IIS Stability:http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=isapi Install GNU Sed: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=gnused Floating point limitations: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=float No Zend Extensions: http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=nozend MySQL Configuration Error:http://bugs.php.net/fix.php?id=35687&r=mysqlcfg
[PHP-DOC] #35579 [Opn]: Serialize / Unserialize Behavior with Objects including References
ID: 35579 Updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: al dot the dot x at gmail dot com Status: Open Bug Type: Documentation problem Operating System: ANY PHP Version: Irrelevant New Comment: Well, as a second though, I would agree that the manual isn't clear enough. "References inside the array/object you are serialize()ing will also be stored." $a = 'first'; $b = array(&$a); $c = serialize($b); unset($b); $b = unserialize($c); $a = 'second'; echo $b[0]; // -> first, which is not the behavior somebody would expect Previous Comments: [2005-12-15 16:28:28] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I fail to see the specific link with objects, nor the dilemnia, because serialize/unserialize can't keep references at all: $a = 'first'; $b = &$a; // create a reference $c = serialize($b); unset($b); // kill the reference $b = unserialize($c); // won't restore it, unserialize() doesn't return a reference. $a = 'second'; echo $b; -> 'first' [2005-12-15 02:29:34] al dot the dot x at gmail dot com Also, as I've discovered in further testing, even internal references are not preserved when serialize() and unserialize() are employed. For instance (mind the pun, it's tricky): Sample Code: class A { var $value = 0; function A ( $newValue = 0 ) { $this->value = $newValue; } // END constructor } // END class A class B { var pointers = array(); vae aliases = array(); // Excuse the misnomers, please... function B ( $newPointer = false ) { if (false !== $newPointer) $this->ponters[] =& $newPointer; foreach ($pointers as $index => $value) $this->aliases[$index] =& $pointers[$index]; } // END constructor } // END class B $newA = new A('I'm a new A'); $newB = new B(&$newA); $oldB = unserialize(serialize($newB)); $newA->value = "Now I'm an old A"; // Forgive the PHP5-style syntax below... echo $newA->value; // As expected, Output: Now I'm an old A echo $newB->pointer[0]->value; // As expected, Output same... echo $oldB->pointers[0]->value; // Somewhat expected, but not desired... // Output: I'm an old A $oldB->pointers[0]->value = "Also an old A"; echo $oldB->pointers[0]->value; echo $oldB->aliased[0]->value; // Nothing as expected or desired... // Output 1: Also an old A // Output 2: I'm an old A // Internal references aren't even preserved... Boo. [2005-12-14 13:16:12] [EMAIL PROTECTED] And write with big letters "references are NOT pointers!" :) [2005-12-07 09:20:40] al dot the dot x at gmail dot com Description: As discussed in several bug reports and in the additional comments in the PHP Documentation site (eventually, with some reading / searching), the functions serialize() and unserialize() do not restore references to other objects in PHP 4. As that this behavior is unexpected _and_ intrinsic to the use of session data in PHP, please consider including a caveat or clarification in the documentation XML for the affected functions, the "Classes and Objects" section, and the "Session-Handling Functions" section. Certainly, there's a workaround with __sleep() and __wakeup(), but this really needs to be addressed in the primary documentation in all these places, since the thread regarding that behavior is now buried among others and only appears on the description of serialize(). I also understand that this has been fixed as of PHP 5, but that's not a very helpful explanation, Most hosting providers currently run PHP 4.3.x or 4.4.x and place low priority on upgrading until the next major Apache version is released (maybe not even then, the slackers). Reproduce code: --- // Consider: class dataObject { var $data = NULL; var $pointer = NULL; function dataObject ($newData = false) { if ($newData !== false) $this->data = $newData; } // END constructor function setPointer (&$newPtr) { return ($this->pointer =& $newPtr); } // END setPointer } // END class dataObject $A = new base('This is A'); $B = new base('This is B'); $A->setPointer(&$B); $C = serialize($A); // Now check the original for reference... $B->data = "Still B, but different"; echo $A->pointer->data; // Funky syntax, I know... // Output as expected: "Still B, but different" // But do the same on the serialized version... unset($A); $A = unserialize($C); $B->data = "Where's B now?"; echo $A->pointer->data; // Output is old "This is B"... Not cool. // Reference is not preserved. -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35579&edit=1
[PHP-DOC] #35579 [Opn]: Serialize / Unserialize Behavior with Objects including References
ID: 35579 Updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: al dot the dot x at gmail dot com Status: Open Bug Type: Documentation problem Operating System: ANY PHP Version: Irrelevant New Comment: I fail to see the specific link with objects, nor the dilemnia, because serialize/unserialize can't keep references at all: $a = 'first'; $b = &$a; // create a reference $c = serialize($b); unset($b); // kill the reference $b = unserialize($c); // won't restore it, unserialize() doesn't return a reference. $a = 'second'; echo $b; -> 'first' Previous Comments: [2005-12-15 02:29:34] al dot the dot x at gmail dot com Also, as I've discovered in further testing, even internal references are not preserved when serialize() and unserialize() are employed. For instance (mind the pun, it's tricky): Sample Code: class A { var $value = 0; function A ( $newValue = 0 ) { $this->value = $newValue; } // END constructor } // END class A class B { var pointers = array(); vae aliases = array(); // Excuse the misnomers, please... function B ( $newPointer = false ) { if (false !== $newPointer) $this->ponters[] =& $newPointer; foreach ($pointers as $index => $value) $this->aliases[$index] =& $pointers[$index]; } // END constructor } // END class B $newA = new A('I'm a new A'); $newB = new B(&$newA); $oldB = unserialize(serialize($newB)); $newA->value = "Now I'm an old A"; // Forgive the PHP5-style syntax below... echo $newA->value; // As expected, Output: Now I'm an old A echo $newB->pointer[0]->value; // As expected, Output same... echo $oldB->pointers[0]->value; // Somewhat expected, but not desired... // Output: I'm an old A $oldB->pointers[0]->value = "Also an old A"; echo $oldB->pointers[0]->value; echo $oldB->aliased[0]->value; // Nothing as expected or desired... // Output 1: Also an old A // Output 2: I'm an old A // Internal references aren't even preserved... Boo. [2005-12-14 13:16:12] [EMAIL PROTECTED] And write with big letters "references are NOT pointers!" :) [2005-12-07 09:20:40] al dot the dot x at gmail dot com Description: As discussed in several bug reports and in the additional comments in the PHP Documentation site (eventually, with some reading / searching), the functions serialize() and unserialize() do not restore references to other objects in PHP 4. As that this behavior is unexpected _and_ intrinsic to the use of session data in PHP, please consider including a caveat or clarification in the documentation XML for the affected functions, the "Classes and Objects" section, and the "Session-Handling Functions" section. Certainly, there's a workaround with __sleep() and __wakeup(), but this really needs to be addressed in the primary documentation in all these places, since the thread regarding that behavior is now buried among others and only appears on the description of serialize(). I also understand that this has been fixed as of PHP 5, but that's not a very helpful explanation, Most hosting providers currently run PHP 4.3.x or 4.4.x and place low priority on upgrading until the next major Apache version is released (maybe not even then, the slackers). Reproduce code: --- // Consider: class dataObject { var $data = NULL; var $pointer = NULL; function dataObject ($newData = false) { if ($newData !== false) $this->data = $newData; } // END constructor function setPointer (&$newPtr) { return ($this->pointer =& $newPtr); } // END setPointer } // END class dataObject $A = new base('This is A'); $B = new base('This is B'); $A->setPointer(&$B); $C = serialize($A); // Now check the original for reference... $B->data = "Still B, but different"; echo $A->pointer->data; // Funky syntax, I know... // Output as expected: "Still B, but different" // But do the same on the serialized version... unset($A); $A = unserialize($C); $B->data = "Where's B now?"; echo $A->pointer->data; // Output is old "This is B"... Not cool. // Reference is not preserved. -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=35579&edit=1