Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals (fwd)
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 04:24:41PM +0300, Jouni Ahto wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Jim Winstead wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:25:16AM +0300, Jouni Ahto wrote: > > > > > > Was there problems, because they don't show up yet on the documentation > > > page, or is it just that nobody did update it? In the former case, I'm > > > still offering help. > > > > the machine that the manual generation runs on doesn't have tex > > installed. we're planning on moving this to a new machine. > > > > hopefully we can have it up and running again by the end of the week. > > Just a suggestion: I got a cable modem home last Wednesday and am once > again connected to the net (with enough speed :). And I've already got a > fully working TeX setup, especially hacked and tuned to produce PHP > PDF-manuals. So, why to waste cycles (the process is quite long and > heavy...) on a machine that would be in better use serving continuously > the developer and user community, when my home machine could do it every > day and then ftp/rsync the results to somewhere while I sleep? Hi Jouni, I really missed you on the LinuxDays in Stuttgart :( We had all days a very good Internet connection. I hope I can see you the next year in Stuttgart. -Egon -- All known books about PHP and related books: http://php.net/books.php Concert Band of the University of Hohenheim: http://www.concert-band.de/ First and second bestselling book in German: http://www.php-buch.de/
Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals (fwd)
> > NO no. Derick made an autogeneration script for the chm > > files on windows. Although we can't see the new manuals > > at php.net now... :(( > > What do you mean? http://www.php.net/docs.php has links to chm versions, > and the files really are there. (But why is is the hungarian version 7 > months old?) All chms are really old. We have XML building problems with the hungarian manual since May (and not since 7 months :), so I don't know why it is not updated since. To fix our building problems we need to update install.xml and types.xml (types.xml's updating is on the way - I am at line 500 of the en update diff with 1500 lines). The install.xml diff is about 4500 lines... > > On 17.8. afternoon, should I just pick you up from your workplace? Easier > to find each other. I assume it's VI krt. Andrássy út, near Oktagon. > OK, we will discuss how this would happen exactly later. Yes, I am working there. Oktogon :)) Goba
Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals (fwd)
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Hojtsy Gabor wrote: > NO no. Derick made an autogeneration script for the chm > files on windows. Although we can't see the new manuals > at php.net now... :(( What do you mean? http://www.php.net/docs.php has links to chm versions, and the files really are there. (But why is is the hungarian version 7 months old?) > Extract from a mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001. Jul 9]: > > | Ok, I got my account on the webserver now, so I can upload them now. > | I only need to integrate that into my auto-build script. > > I mean the same setup should work for you Jouni (an account on > the server, so you can upload the files there - and finnaly we can > get PDF mirrored hm). Ok, got it. On 17.8. afternoon, should I just pick you up from your workplace? Easier to find each other. I assume it's VI krt. Andrássy út, near Oktagon. -- Jouni
Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals (fwd)
> > > Just a suggestion: I got a cable modem home last Wednesday and am once > > > again connected to the net (with enough speed :). And I've already got a > > > fully working TeX setup, especially hacked and tuned to produce PHP > > > PDF-manuals. So, why to waste cycles (the process is quite long and > > > heavy...) on a machine that would be in better use serving continuously > > > the developer and user community, when my home machine could do it every > > > day and then ftp/rsync the results to somewhere while I sleep? > > > > GREAT! The same setup should go for chm manuals, and that > > is on the way to work, so this is absolutely doable :)) > > I hope you don't mean that *I* should make the chm manuals too. There's no > hhc.exe for Linux... NO no. Derick made an autogeneration script for the chm files on windows. Although we can't see the new manuals at php.net now... :(( Extract from a mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001. Jul 9]: | Ok, I got my account on the webserver now, so I can upload them now. | I only need to integrate that into my auto-build script. I mean the same setup should work for you Jouni (an account on the server, so you can upload the files there - and finnaly we can get PDF mirrored hm). Goba
Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals (fwd)
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Hojtsy Gabor wrote: > > Just a suggestion: I got a cable modem home last Wednesday and am once > > again connected to the net (with enough speed :). And I've already got a > > fully working TeX setup, especially hacked and tuned to produce PHP > > PDF-manuals. So, why to waste cycles (the process is quite long and > > heavy...) on a machine that would be in better use serving continuously > > the developer and user community, when my home machine could do it every > > day and then ftp/rsync the results to somewhere while I sleep? > > GREAT! The same setup should go for chm manuals, and that > is on the way to work, so this is absolutely doable :)) I hope you don't mean that *I* should make the chm manuals too. There's no hhc.exe for Linux... -- Jouni
Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals (fwd)
> Just a suggestion: I got a cable modem home last Wednesday and am once > again connected to the net (with enough speed :). And I've already got a > fully working TeX setup, especially hacked and tuned to produce PHP > PDF-manuals. So, why to waste cycles (the process is quite long and > heavy...) on a machine that would be in better use serving continuously > the developer and user community, when my home machine could do it every > day and then ftp/rsync the results to somewhere while I sleep? GREAT! The same setup should go for chm manuals, and that is on the way to work, so this is absolutely doable :)) Goba
Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:13:07 +0300 (EEST) From: Jouni Ahto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jim Winstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Jim Winstead wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:25:16AM +0300, Jouni Ahto wrote: > > > > Was there problems, because they don't show up yet on the documentation > > page, or is it just that nobody did update it? In the former case, I'm > > still offering help. > > the machine that the manual generation runs on doesn't have tex > installed. we're planning on moving this to a new machine. > > hopefully we can have it up and running again by the end of the week. Just a suggestion: I got a cable modem home last Wednesday and am once again connected to the net (with enough speed :). And I've already got a fully working TeX setup, especially hacked and tuned to produce PHP PDF-manuals. So, why to waste cycles (the process is quite long and heavy...) on a machine that would be in better use serving continuously the developer and user community, when my home machine could do it every day and then ftp/rsync the results to somewhere while I sleep? -- Jouni
RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals
Title: RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals >I was on holiday :) So you are full of energy :) > If the old setup is ok, I could find some time the > next weekend. Go for it, and please add life to the PDF generation :) Is there anything about that really good looking style PDF you showed us (that O'reilly style). It was very promising :))
Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals
On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Jim Winstead wrote: > i haven't been able to set up the pdf generation on the current > rsync.php.net, because it is running an older version of redhat, and > all the jvm's i tried to install wanted a newer glibc. > > (the pdf generation was using saxon and passivetex, right? it would be > interesting to see if libxslt is up to the task, since it is > reportedly quite fast.) It was actually jade, tex and dvipdfm. > On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 11:59:40AM +0200, Hojtsy Gabor wrote: > > Is there anybody interested in seting up the PDF > > generation framework again? This question was > > askes by Rasmus some days ago, but nobody seemed > > to answer. I was on holiday :) If the old setup is ok, I could find some time the next weekend. Anything java-based, and I'm out of the game. -- Jouni
Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals
> i haven't been able to set up the pdf generation on the current > rsync.php.net, because it is running an older version of redhat, and > all the jvm's i tried to install wanted a newer glibc. > > (the pdf generation was using saxon and passivetex, right? it would be > interesting to see if libxslt is up to the task, since it is > reportedly quite fast.) The XSLT stylesheets for the phpdoc are only experimental now AFAIK Although we can go and try them out :)) Goba
Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Thomas wrote: > Hi Derick, > > you're right, zipping them doesn't save much space, as the name > "Compressed Html Manual" implies. For me it brought with a > standard winzip 72 kB on my de-build from 01-07-05. Ok, I got my account on the webserver now, so I can upload them now. I only need to integrate that into my auto-build script. Derick > > Cu, > Thomas > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, [ISO-8859-2] Hojtsy Gábor wrote: > > > > > > But another small suggestion (just to use the opportunity:) : > > > > Since we have html for online-access, the manual becomes bigger > > > > and bigger, and pdf was already BIG before: > > > > What do you think about providing them also compressed to save traffic? > > > > > > The same stands for CHM manuals. Maybe we can get some > > > space (and bandwidth) by zipping them. As they are ziped > > > at dev.nexen.net (special version French manuals). > > > > I found that zipping them takes more space than the original ones, so I > > don't think that's wise to do. It seems that MicroShit already compressed > > them or something. > > > > regards, > > > > Derick > > > > - > > PHP: Scripting the Web - www.php.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > SRM: Site Resource Manager - www.vl-srm.net > > - > Derick Rethans - PHP: Scripting the Web - www.php.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SRM: Site Resource Manager - www.vl-srm.net -
Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals
Hi Derick, you're right, zipping them doesn't save much space, as the name "Compressed Html Manual" implies. For me it brought with a standard winzip 72 kB on my de-build from 01-07-05. Cu, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, [ISO-8859-2] Hojtsy Gábor wrote: > > > > But another small suggestion (just to use the opportunity:) : > > > Since we have html for online-access, the manual becomes bigger > > > and bigger, and pdf was already BIG before: > > > What do you think about providing them also compressed to save traffic? > > > > The same stands for CHM manuals. Maybe we can get some > > space (and bandwidth) by zipping them. As they are ziped > > at dev.nexen.net (special version French manuals). > > I found that zipping them takes more space than the original ones, so I > don't think that's wise to do. It seems that MicroShit already compressed > them or something. > > regards, > > Derick > > - > PHP: Scripting the Web - www.php.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SRM: Site Resource Manager - www.vl-srm.net > -
RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals
Title: RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals >> The same stands for CHM manuals. Maybe we can get some >> space (and bandwidth) by zipping them. As they are ziped >> at dev.nexen.net (special version French manuals). > >I found that zipping them takes more space than the original ones, so I >don't think that's wise to do. It seems that MicroShit already >compressed >them or something. Anyway, can you share your development results about improving the manual format, and access, so we can improve the official ones at phpdoc and phpweb? :) Goba
RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, [ISO-8859-2] Hojtsy Gábor wrote: > > But another small suggestion (just to use the opportunity:) : > > Since we have html for online-access, the manual becomes bigger > > and bigger, and pdf was already BIG before: > > What do you think about providing them also compressed to save traffic? > > The same stands for CHM manuals. Maybe we can get some > space (and bandwidth) by zipping them. As they are ziped > at dev.nexen.net (special version French manuals). I found that zipping them takes more space than the original ones, so I don't think that's wise to do. It seems that MicroShit already compressed them or something. regards, Derick - PHP: Scripting the Web - www.php.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SRM: Site Resource Manager - www.vl-srm.net -
RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals
Title: RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals > But another small suggestion (just to use the opportunity:) : > Since we have html for online-access, the manual becomes bigger > and bigger, and pdf was already BIG before: > What do you think about providing them also compressed to save traffic? The same stands for CHM manuals. Maybe we can get some space (and bandwidth) by zipping them. As they are ziped at dev.nexen.net (special version French manuals). Goba
[PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals
Hello Jim, sounds reasonable to me. But another small suggestion (just to use the opportunity:) : Since we have html for online-access, the manual becomes bigger and bigger, and pdf was already BIG before: What do you think about providing them also compressed to save traffic? Cu, Thomas "Jim Winstead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > we're still sorting out our server situation. if i understand things > correctly, the machine that used to be lists.php.net/cvs.php.net will > be getting reformatted and redeployed on va linux's network for us to > use again, and i think it would make a lot of sense to make that be > rsync.php.net (which also generates the manuals). > > i haven't been able to set up the pdf generation on the current > rsync.php.net, because it is running an older version of redhat, and > all the jvm's i tried to install wanted a newer glibc. > > (the pdf generation was using saxon and passivetex, right? it would be > interesting to see if libxslt is up to the task, since it is > reportedly quite fast.) > > jim > > On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 11:59:40AM +0200, Hojtsy Gabor wrote: > > Is there anybody interested in seting up the PDF > > generation framework again? This question was > > askes by Rasmus some days ago, but nobody seemed > > to answer. > > > > I know this day is still LinuxTag, and many PHP > > people are in Stuttgart, but maybe someone can > > spend some time with this next week. > > > > We should put that dot at the end of the PDF > > generation, and get this type of doc mirrored.
[PHP-DOC] Re: pdf manuals
we're still sorting out our server situation. if i understand things correctly, the machine that used to be lists.php.net/cvs.php.net will be getting reformatted and redeployed on va linux's network for us to use again, and i think it would make a lot of sense to make that be rsync.php.net (which also generates the manuals). i haven't been able to set up the pdf generation on the current rsync.php.net, because it is running an older version of redhat, and all the jvm's i tried to install wanted a newer glibc. (the pdf generation was using saxon and passivetex, right? it would be interesting to see if libxslt is up to the task, since it is reportedly quite fast.) jim On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 11:59:40AM +0200, Hojtsy Gabor wrote: > Is there anybody interested in seting up the PDF > generation framework again? This question was > askes by Rasmus some days ago, but nobody seemed > to answer. > > I know this day is still LinuxTag, and many PHP > people are in Stuttgart, but maybe someone can > spend some time with this next week. > > We should put that dot at the end of the PDF > generation, and get this type of doc mirrored.
