Re: [PHP-DOC] To the German-people: filesystem.xml

2001-05-17 Thread Hojtsy Gabor

> [...]
> To make a long story short: Now we have to fill the gap between the best
> Open Source documentation for a specific target-audience to a consistent
> documentation for mixed environments, and a mixed audience.

Absolutely right :)

Goba
... . . .  .  .
Editor of the Hungarian PHP manual, Admin of the Hungarian PHP mirror




Re: [PHP-DOC] To the German-people: filesystem.xml

2001-05-16 Thread Thomas

Hello Mark,

I'm with you in general, and the comparison is also between professional
product against PHP as a Open Source.

As a basis, we get already compared with also expensive prof. products
like cfm, but now it's our turn to improve our stuff so that we don't leave
ourself open for such a reference.

And indeed, we have enough to do, since PHP gets more popular, e.g.

1.) Several extension-intros have "only Linux"-wordings, like:
"you must compile php with xxx support by using the --with-xxx option."
Now imagine a Win-user, who just wants to make his Web dynamic:
"What is compile?"

2.) The 1st array_flip()-example:
$trans = array_flip ($trans);
$original = strtr ($str, $trans);
The same user: "What is $trans? What has $str to look like, and what will
$original be?"

To make a long story short: Now we have to fill the gap between the best
Open Source documentation for a specific target-audience to a consistent
documentation for mixed environments, and a mixed audience.

Best regards,
Thomas


Mark Kronsbein wrote:

> Thomas wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> > BTW: Have you seen the bad reference for the PHP-DOC in relation to asp,
> > etc. in the comparison between WebScriptLangs in "Internet Professionell"? I
> > hope it doesn't get worse, if you really act with everybody like me.
>
> Ive seen it. It was not the first Article which Marco Zierl wrote about
> PHP.
> Though it was not the first which was nearly 90% wrong. Dont belive
> everything
> they write.
>
> IMHO the Documentation of PHP is one of the best Documentations of
> Opensource Projects Ive ever seen.
>
> Just my 0,02 DM ;)
>
> Mark
>
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Re: [PHP-DOC] To the German-people: filesystem.xml

2001-05-16 Thread eschmid+sic

On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:48:48PM +0200, Mark Kronsbein wrote:

> > BTW: Have you seen the bad reference for the PHP-DOC in relation to asp,
> > etc. in the comparison between WebScriptLangs in "Internet Professionell"? I
> > hope it doesn't get worse, if you really act with everybody like me.
> 
> Ive seen it. It was not the first Article which Marco Zierl wrote about
> PHP.
> Though it was not the first which was nearly 90% wrong. Dont belive
> everything 
> they write. 

I have deleted another article from this journal by Marco Zierl. He writes
IMHO nonsense. By the the way, who have removed the link to the
php.net/news.php page?
 
> IMHO the Documentation of PHP is one of the best Documentations of 
> Opensource Projects Ive ever seen.

Auwa, this was a very impressiv statement I ever read on mailinglist.

> Just my 0,02 DM ;)

Change to EUR and it would be only 0.01 EUR.

-Egon

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Re: [PHP-DOC] To the German-people: filesystem.xml

2001-05-16 Thread Mark Kronsbein



Thomas wrote:

Hi Thomas,

> BTW: Have you seen the bad reference for the PHP-DOC in relation to asp,
> etc. in the comparison between WebScriptLangs in "Internet Professionell"? I
> hope it doesn't get worse, if you really act with everybody like me.

Ive seen it. It was not the first Article which Marco Zierl wrote about
PHP.
Though it was not the first which was nearly 90% wrong. Dont belive
everything 
they write. 

IMHO the Documentation of PHP is one of the best Documentations of 
Opensource Projects Ive ever seen.

Just my 0,02 DM ;)

Mark

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Infos und Tips zu PHP http://www.php-homepage.de



Re: [PHP-DOC] To the German-people: filesystem.xml

2001-05-15 Thread Thomas

> P.S.: The question if I should really do anything more was meant serious,
> because if 80% of my work are not even worth a short answer (if you won't
> commit it), I'll change to another project.

Not to forget the CVS-account-story:
First offering an account before I've asked for,
then, weeks later, denying it,
and then asking false "Do you have an CVS account?".

Sorry, that all seems to be too heavy to me.

Thomas






Re: [PHP-DOC] To the German-people: filesystem.xml

2001-05-15 Thread Thomas

It gets annoying with the time.

Should I really provide a version for filesystem.xml v1.64, and array.xml I
was currently working on, or will it also be ignored only?

> > > Do you have an CVS account? I havent seen any commits.
> >
> > Wasn't the discussion last Friday enough, or is it a sport to tease me?
> >
> > No, I haven't got a CVS-account, I'm still waiting. Therefore the
question
> > "...please confirm..." above. Till now I was waiting for eighter a
commit
> > or a response to filesystem.xml v1.62 I've mailed to you on Saturday.
>
> I am currently checking the manuals. The most errors (I have counted ten
> of them) in the english tree.

DID YOU REALLY MISS THE POINT AGAIN?

If something in MY contributed files isn't OK, tell me what wrong, so that I
can learn for the next time.
If they are OK, then please commit them (and don't tell me what you have
found in the English version, because I'll see the changes, and provide
upgrades for them)

IN SHORT:
DO NOT COMPLETELY IGNORE EACH OF MY CONTRIBUTIONS !

Thomas

P.S.: The question if I should really do anything more was meant serious,
because if 80% of my work are not even worth a short answer (if you won't
commit it), I'll change to another project.

BTW: Have you seen the bad reference for the PHP-DOC in relation to asp,
etc. in the comparison between WebScriptLangs in "Internet Professionell"? I
hope it doesn't get worse, if you really act with everybody like me.

Look at "Dokumentation":
http://www.zdnet.de/internet/artikel/java/200105/applikationssprachen06_03-w
c.html





Re: [PHP-DOC] To the German-people: filesystem.xml

2001-05-15 Thread eschmid+sic

On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 12:03:22AM +0200, Thomas wrote:

> > > I can't reach Egon Saturday, so I try it here: Could somebody please
> confirm
> > > the enclosed de/functions/filesystem.xml and de/Translators.xml?
> >
> > I'm still alive. On weekends I spent the most time in another city ...
> 
> A girlfriend in another town? :)

No but something like that.
 
> > Do you have an CVS account? I havent seen any commits.
> 
> Wasn't the discussion last Friday enough, or is it a sport to tease me?
> 
> No, I haven't got a CVS-account, I'm still waiting. Therefore the question
> "...please confirm..." above. Till now I was waiting for eighter a commit
> or a response to filesystem.xml v1.62 I've mailed to you on Saturday.

I am currently checking the manuals. The most errors (I have counted ten
of them) in the english tree.

-Egon

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Re: [PHP-DOC] To the German-people: filesystem.xml

2001-05-15 Thread Thomas

Hi Egon!

> > I can't reach Egon Saturday, so I try it here: Could somebody please
confirm
> > the enclosed de/functions/filesystem.xml and de/Translators.xml?
>
> I'm still alive. On weekends I spent the most time in another city ...

A girlfriend in another town? :)

> Do you have an CVS account? I havent seen any commits.

Wasn't the discussion last Friday enough, or is it a sport to tease me?

No, I haven't got a CVS-account, I'm still waiting. Therefore the question
"...please confirm..." above. Till now I was waiting for eighter a commit
or a response to filesystem.xml v1.62 I've mailed to you on Saturday.

Regards,
Thomas






Re: [PHP-DOC] To the German-people: filesystem.xml

2001-05-15 Thread eschmid+sic

On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 08:42:29PM +0200, Thomas wrote:

> I can't reach Egon Saturday, so I try it here: Could somebody please confirm
> the enclosed de/functions/filesystem.xml and de/Translators.xml?

I'm still alive. On weekends I spent the most time in another city ...
 
> What I've done:
> 
> de/filesystem.xml:
> - implemented changes to en-version 1.63,
> - corrected some typos,
> - rephrased some function-titles, so that
>   the TOC is easier to read
> 
> de/translators:
> - changed the status-info of filesystem.xml to 1.63

Do you have an CVS account? I havent seen any commits.

-Egon

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