||*()*|| Hi, Derick. >> >> My opinion that PHP.NET need a public-available project map, where >> >> project description, technology, roadmap, status and general guidelines >> >> will be explained, but I'm afraid that without commercial support it >> >> is not real to get started. >> >> DR> Why? >> >> 1. Developers are not enough motivated
DR> Bullshit, there were tons of commits last week that proved the opposite. >> 2. Developers don't have enough time DR> Same here, nor do I fail to see how creating road maps helps here, that DR> costs extra time, doesn't it? That costs extra time to create for one person, but greatly reduces the time for other to understand what can they do, how can they could do it and where should they start from. >> 3. OpenSource folks lack organization/planning/time and project management >> skills acquired in complex projects with appropriate commercial tools (such >> as MS Project, Rational) DR> What makes you think that? Most "OpenSource folks" also work in a DR> company, where those tools might be in use. I doubt anybody here wants DR> to do anything with propietary Windows only tools too. The outcomes of no-using-planning-tools-at-all is that knowledge about structures and functinality is not shared. People have hard times trying to figure out how something works. Most of the time they just don't want to do this, becuase it seems to them too complex. >> 4. Responsibility, task distribution and timely support is not possible >> when you have full-time work contract somethere else to earn funds. DR> I think it works pretty well right now, f.e. see the Unicode stuff, the DR> OCI8 stuff. Remember that we're mostly all volunteers here, working on DR> PHP because we need to solve a problem that we encounter. We're not a DR> company. We are mostly separated here. I better say there are many small "we"s and "I"s. I agree that many of "us" volunteers, but everone is mostly concerned with his/her own problems. I.e. when I ask where to get or how to compile debug version of PHP4 for windows to track PHP crashes in complex PHP4 framework overburdened with patterns I'm getting suggestion to get PHP5 or provide a simple 10-20 script. I've told the guys that framework is for PHP4 only and it is impossible to get 10-20 lines testcase from it by design. That's why I need PHP4 debug version. And still the same reply - give reproducing script. Very kind of volunteers. That is what I call lack of motivation. Volunteers often don't have time/desire to work on complex/uninteresting/obscure problems. t --
