pico? (num)
If `lambda' (Lisp-defined Procedures) is `lst' why `num' is not?! Even if both `num' and `cnt' are defined in `structures', why `num' can not be operated on as a `lst' that it is?! I think it would be (uber cute) to implement `num' as `lst' of `cnt' as pure PL lib :) . Even in 32-bit version. I think `(doc 'eval)' should be the main part of the Reference :) . As we all know, to implement (define) Lisp /just/ `eval' is enough. Who needs 7 primitives ;) ? `(doc 'lst)' (and `fun'...) is missing :)
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Re: pico? (num)
Hi Danilo, > If `lambda' (Lisp-defined Procedures) is `lst' why `num' is not?! I'm not completely sure how you mean that, but you can also "define" a number: : + -> 270167 : (def 'plus (- (* 2 135085) 3)) -> plus : plus -> 270167 : (plus 3 4) -> 7 > Even if both `num' and `cnt' are defined in `structures', why `num' > can not be operated on as a `lst' that it is?! The digits in a bignum are not numbers, because they have no tag bits. They are just bit patterns, spanning the full 64 bits (or 32 on pil32). Thus, a bignum is *not* a list of numbers. > I think it would be (uber cute) to implement `num' as `lst' of `cnt' > as pure PL lib :) . Even in 32-bit version. Could be, but you waste 4 bits in each word for the tags. And numeric operations would have to discard them, getting slower. > I think `(doc 'eval)' should be the main part of the Reference :) . What about "doc/ref.html#ev"? > As we all know, to implement (define) Lisp /just/ `eval' is enough. > Who needs 7 primitives ;) ? `(doc 'lst)' (and `fun'...) is missing :) Not sure again what you mean. Which 7 primitives? ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: pico? (num)
Hi Alex, > > If `lambda' (Lisp-defined Procedures) is `lst' why `num' is not?! > > I'm not completely sure how you mean that, but you can also "define" a number: [path "@src64/structures"] defines `num' as a list of ``cell's. How to do `cons', `car' and `cdr' on it. Even shifting (`>\ >') by 64 (32) bits will copy the whole `num'. Why `cnt?' is not defined? ATM we have: [de fun . quote] Maybe `fun' and `list' should be `sym'bolic tags, and their `apply'cation an Irreducible Form (`=='), if arguments are valid\
Re: pico? (num)
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building picolisp in mobaxterm (cygwin)
Hi, I've tried to build picolisp in mobaxterm (a terminal program including cygwin preinstalled) but I have a bunch of errors about foking and dll's loading in different memory address ➤ make 0 [main] make 14124 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0xDC) make: Makefile:38: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 852 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0xE4) make: Makefile:58: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 8692 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0x70) make: Makefile:67: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 11008 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0xE6) make: Makefile:76: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 5924 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0xE4) make: Makefile:94: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable gcc -c -O2 -pipe -falign-functions=32 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -W -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wunused -Wformat -Wuninitialized -Wstrict-prototypes -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_OS='"Windows_NT"' subr.c 0 [main] make 14792 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0xE4) make: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable anyone have tried to build with mobaxterm or cygwin and had similar problems? regards -- Andrés *~ La mejor manera de librarse de la tentación es caer en ella**. ~ Oscar Wilde* ~
Re: building picolisp in mobaxterm (cygwin)
Hi pd, yes, this is a common issue with cygwin and fork. Are you on a 64-bit bit PC? If so, I have an experimental version of PicoLisp on 64-bit that might be useful - https://github.com/joebo/picoLisp-win-x86-64 I can elaborate if so On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 3:22 PM, pd wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried to build picolisp in mobaxterm (a terminal program including > cygwin preinstalled) but I have a bunch of errors about foking and dll's > loading in different memory address > > ➤ make > 0 [main] make 14124 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0xDC) > make: Makefile:38: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 852 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0xE4) > make: Makefile:58: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 8692 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0x70) > make: Makefile:67: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 11008 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0xE6) > make: Makefile:76: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 5924 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0xE4) > make: Makefile:94: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > gcc -c -O2 -pipe -falign-functions=32 -fomit-frame-pointer > -fno-strict-aliasing -W -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wunused -Wformat > -Wuninitialized -Wstrict-prototypes -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 > -D_OS='"Windows_NT"' subr.c > 0 [main] make 14792 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0x6C) != child(0xE4) > make: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > > > anyone have tried to build with mobaxterm or cygwin and had similar > problems? > > regards > > -- > Andrés > > *~ La mejor manera de librarse de la tentación es caer en ella**. ~ Oscar > Wilde* ~ >
Re: building picolisp in mobaxterm (cygwin)
yes, I'm in a windows 10 64-bit PC. I've cloned the repository you linked but when invoking make in src64 directory I got the same error messages If I try to run pil in root picolisp-win-x86-64 directory I get an error indicating picolisp not found in bin directroy, if I run pil in bin directory I get an error indicating picolisp is not found in /usr/bin/ directory ➤ ./pil /pil: line 2: /home/mobaxterm/picoLisp-win-x86-64/bin/picolisp: No such file or directory /pil: line 2: exec: /home/mobaxterm/picoLisp-win-x86-64/bin/picolisp: cannot execute: No such file or directory ➤ cd bin ➤ ./pil bash: ./pil: /usr/bin/picolisp: bad interpreter: No such file or directory I suppose the problem is I didn't build picolisp so there's no picolisp executable, but I cannot build picolisp because make fails with weird errors ➤ cd src ; make 0 [main] make 12524 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x70) make: Makefile:20: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 9428 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x6C) make: Makefile:29: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 15996 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0xE2) make: Makefile:38: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 13620 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x6C) make: Makefile:49: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 11160 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x6C) make: Makefile:58: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 8060 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0xE4) make: Makefile:67: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 6624 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x6C) make: Makefile:76: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 8616 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x64) make: Makefile:85: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 11084 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x6C) make: Makefile:94: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable gcc -c -O2 -pipe -falign-functions=32 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -W -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wunused -Wformat -Wuninitialized -Wstrict-prototypes -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_OS='"Windows_NT"' main.c 1 [main] make 1120 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0xDC) make: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable ➤ cd src64; make 0 [main] make 12428 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE3) != child(0x6C) make: Makefile:55: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 15468 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE3) != child(0x6C) make: Makefile:81: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 8052 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE3) != child(0x71) make: Makefile:91: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 6728 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE3) != child(0x6C) make: Makefile:101: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 7972 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded to different address: parent(0xE3) != child(0xDF) make: Makefile:111: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable 0 [main] make 6360 child_info_fork::abort: C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: Loaded t
Re: building picolisp in mobaxterm (cygwin)
If you get stuck, jump on #picolisp on irc.freenode.net On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Joe Bogner wrote: > Building from my repo is complicated as it requires a different toolchain
Re: building picolisp in mobaxterm (cygwin)
Building from my repo is complicated as it requires a different toolchain. It's best to try out the binary release https://github.com/joebo/picoLisp-win-x86-64/releases Clone the repo and then drop that picoLisp-win-x86-64-dist.zip into the folder and unzip. You should be able to run pil.cmd then Again, this is all experimental If you're on win10, I hear pil also works with WSL - https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/about On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 4:21 PM, pd wrote: > yes, I'm in a windows 10 64-bit PC. > > I've cloned the repository you linked but when invoking make in src64 > directory I got the same error messages > > If I try to run pil in root picolisp-win-x86-64 directory I get an error > indicating picolisp not found in bin directroy, if I run pil in bin > directory I get an error indicating picolisp is not found in /usr/bin/ > directory > > ➤ ./pil > ./pil: line 2: /home/mobaxterm/picoLisp-win-x86-64/bin/picolisp: No such > file or directory > /pil: line 2: exec: /home/mobaxterm/picoLisp-win-x86-64/bin/picolisp: > cannot execute: No such file or directory > ➤ cd bin > ➤ ./pil > bash: ./pil: /usr/bin/picolisp: bad interpreter: No such file or directory > > I suppose the problem is I didn't build picolisp so there's no picolisp > executable, but I cannot build picolisp because make fails with weird errors > > ➤ cd src ; make > 0 [main] make 12524 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x70) > make: Makefile:20: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 9428 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x6C) > make: Makefile:29: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 15996 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0xE2) > make: Makefile:38: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 13620 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x6C) > make: Makefile:49: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 11160 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x6C) > make: Makefile:58: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 8060 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0xE4) > make: Makefile:67: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 6624 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x6C) > make: Makefile:76: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 8616 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x64) > make: Makefile:85: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 11084 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0x6C) > make: Makefile:94: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > gcc -c -O2 -pipe -falign-functions=32 -fomit-frame-pointer > -fno-strict-aliasing -W -Wimplicit -Wreturn-type -Wunused -Wformat > -Wuninitialized -Wstrict-prototypes -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 > -D_OS='"Windows_NT"' main.c > 1 [main] make 1120 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE0) != child(0xDC) > make: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > > ➤ cd src64; make > 0 [main] make 12428 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE3) != child(0x6C) > make: Makefile:55: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 15468 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE3) != child(0x6C) > make: Makefile:81: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable > 0 [main] make 8052 child_info_fork::abort: > C:\Users\jose\DOWNLO~1\jose\PROGRA~2\MOBAXT~1\PERSIS~1\slash\bin\cyggmp-10.dll: > Loaded to different address: parent(0xE3) != child(0x71) > make: Makefile:91: fork: Resource temporarily unavaila
