Re: PicoLisp in Wikipedia

2020-06-29 Thread Jon Kleiser
It’s best if others can come up with the ideas for improvement. For the most of 
the summer I will be concentrating on some JavaScript/TypeScript project of 
mine, when not enjoying outdoors activity.
Have a nice, safe summer!

/Jon

> On 29 Jun 2020, at 16:07, Alexander Burger  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 08:08:53AM -0400, r cs wrote:
>> Sure Alex, I would be happy to do that.
> 
> Great! Thanks a lot! :)
> 
> It would be really nice if you, Jon, and perhaps others, could improve that
> page. It is very bad as it is currently. Any ideas are welcome!
> 
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Re: PicoLisp in Wikipedia

2020-06-29 Thread Alexander Burger
On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 08:08:53AM -0400, r cs wrote:
> Sure Alex, I would be happy to do that.

Great! Thanks a lot! :)

It would be really nice if you, Jon, and perhaps others, could improve that
page. It is very bad as it is currently. Any ideas are welcome!

☺/ A!ex

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Re: PicoLisp in Wikipedia

2020-06-29 Thread Jon Kleiser
Hi Alex,

I can edit that page, if you tell me when and what to write. I see that the 
“Stable release 20.6” is now in the box on the right.

/Jon

> On 29 Jun 2020, at 10:29, Alexander Burger  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> today I released picoLisp-20.6.
> 
> During those releases every half year, I also fix every time the "latest 
> release
> version" and "latest release date" in the PicoLisp page in Wikipedia
> 
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picolisp
> 
> 
> However, since quite sime time, Wikipedia complains:
> 
>   A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with
>   its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content
>   policies, particularly neutral point of view.
> 
> Naturally, because I adjust these fields every half year, and I'm the only who
> touched this page since several years.
> 
> So it is not good if *I* maintain this page (sigh).
> 
> Is there anyone interested to do that?
> 
> Thanks!! :)
> ☺/ A!ex
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Re: PicoLisp in Wikipedia

2020-06-29 Thread r cs
Sure Alex, I would be happy to do that.

Regards,
rcs

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 4:35 AM Alexander Burger 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> today I released picoLisp-20.6.
>
> During those releases every half year, I also fix every time the "latest
> release
> version" and "latest release date" in the PicoLisp page in Wikipedia
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picolisp
>
>
> However, since quite sime time, Wikipedia complains:
>
>A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection
> with
>its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content
>policies, particularly neutral point of view.
>
> Naturally, because I adjust these fields every half year, and I'm the only
> who
> touched this page since several years.
>
> So it is not good if *I* maintain this page (sigh).
>
> Is there anyone interested to do that?
>
> Thanks!! :)
> ☺/ A!ex
>
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Re: PicoLisp in Wikipedia

2020-06-29 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Jon,

cool, thanks a lot!

> I can edit that page, if you tell me when and what to write. I see that the
> “Stable release 20.6” is now in the box on the right.

Yes, indeed, so it is adjusted already:

   | latest release version = 20.6
   | latest release date = {{Start date and age|2020|6|20|df=yes}}

These are the two items I changed after every release, then clicked "This is a
minor edit" and gave "New release" as the edit summary.


Of course, you are free do change or add anything on that page :)

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Re: Announcing another project: a Unicorn-inspired PicoLisp daemon

2020-06-29 Thread Alexander Williams
I agree with a lot of this, however I do somewhat oppose the creation of 
yet another new package manager (see IRC chat logs).


Perhaps try to follow the same "rules" for repos:
- readme, changelog, license, makefile, test.l, module.l

That would be a good start to standardize information about PicoLisp 
projects, and would make it trivial to discover what's available, their 
versions, and dependencies through the 'module.l' (which summarizes the 
project and is accessible through a global constant APP_INFO).


There has been some initial work on trying to manage everything through 
the module.l file, but I never got very far, again due to my strong 
opinion on (and against) package managers.


Perhaps someone can write a script to pull all the info from the various 
module.l files and generate a quick HTML page? Maybe I'll do it? haha. In 
any case, it's just a list, so it's quite flexible and open to 
improvements (ex: adding a 'contributors' field, or 'install' instructions 
(I think i've done that somewhere in another project haha)).



AW

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Kevin Ednalino wrote:


I've thought about this also. The "batteries included" philosophy (Python a
good example of this or CL's "alexandria" library), would help welcome new
users getting started quickly, which seems more of a bigger factor for
language adoption these days, and reduce duplication of effort. In
addition, I think this would be more effective with PicoLisp since there is
a BDFL, unlike CL which makes it difficult to come to a consensus.

Not to derail the OP, but in the same vein of thought, another critical
element is a "quicklisp" library, which would be a tremendous boon to the
ecosystem. However, all of this becomes more of a factor as the community
grows. This would be a good topic for the upcoming meeting :)

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:57 AM  wrote:


Hi aw

Awesome, many thanks.

I will definitely build upon this.
Good if we can re-use and establish some standard picolisp libraries
(beside/in addition to the ones in the distro).
NIH syndrome etc.

Cheers,
beneroth

On 18.06.20 12:27, Alexander Williams wrote:

Hi all,

It's been a busy week, this time i'm announcing another open source
release:

  picolisp-supervisor: https://github.com/aw/picolisp-supervisor/

It's a program I created almost 4 years ago to copy Unicorn[1], but
which was not suitable for public release. I've tweaked it, wrote some
documentation (and comments), and decided to share the code with
others who may be interested.

The source code is published under the MIT license.

PS: Also check out my other project released earlier this week[2] ;)

Cheer,


AW

- [1] https://yhbt.net/unicorn/
- [2] https://github.com/aw/picolisp-kv



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Re: Redis-inspired key/value store in PicoLisp

2020-06-29 Thread Alexander Williams

hah! Well it's not too late to write it, or contribute to this project ;)

In fact, for me this was more of a way to sharpen my UNIX skills.

Thanks for the comment George.


AW

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, Yiorgos [George] Adamopoulos wrote:


Good job! I have to confess you beat me to it!  I always thought a kv
store would be a cool way to sharpen picolisp skills!

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:40 PM Alexander Williams
 wrote:


Hi everyone,

I wanted to build a TCP-based client/server FIFO queue in PicoLisp, and
ended up re-creating a small part of Redis[1].

You can check it out here: https://github.com/aw/picolisp-kv

It's still quite different from Redis behind the scenes, but some
functionality will be familiar to those who've used it.

The source code is published under the MIT license.

Enjoy,


AW


- [1]https://redis.io

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PicoLisp in Wikipedia

2020-06-29 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi all,

today I released picoLisp-20.6.

During those releases every half year, I also fix every time the "latest release
version" and "latest release date" in the PicoLisp page in Wikipedia

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picolisp


However, since quite sime time, Wikipedia complains:

   A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with
   its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content
   policies, particularly neutral point of view.

Naturally, because I adjust these fields every half year, and I'm the only who
touched this page since several years.

So it is not good if *I* maintain this page (sigh).

Is there anyone interested to do that?

Thanks!! :)
☺/ A!ex

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