Re: pilbox file sharing

2021-01-19 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Shaughan,

> Yes, I set the storage permission. This is odd, since it works for you. Termux
> still works for me, but not pilbox. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e. 
> Samsung
> always locks everything down—maybe that's it.

Strange. So for a first fix, I will set the requestLegacyExternalStorage flag in
AndroidManifest.xml, as suggested by Wilhelm, and releaes a new PilBox.

In the long range, we must find out how to support Scoped Storage. I have the
same problem in PentiKeyboard btw.

☺/ A!ex


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Re: pilbox file sharing

2021-01-19 Thread Shaughan Lavine
Yes, I set the storage permission. This is odd, since it works for you. Termux 
still works for me, but not pilbox. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e. Samsung 
always locks everything down—maybe that's it.

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On Jan 18, 2021, 11:21 PM, Alexander Burger wrote:

> Hi Shaughan, Wilhelm,
>
> Hi On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 03:49:45AM +, Shaughan Lavine wrote:
>> Yes: Android 10 vs 9. So, how do I get files out of pilbox on Android 10?
>
> Hmm, I do have Android 10 here, and I can access files on external storage 
> with
> PilBox Version 20201231 without problems. (Perhaps a stupid question, but you
> did enable the permission in Settings/Apps/PilBox, right?)
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 08:22:13PM -0800, Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> If you are using the Play Store version, that
>> we might have to lobby Alex to make an update
>> that sets this flag, which he should be able
>
> This would not be a problem.
>
>> to do as long as he has not already set the
>> the target API version of the published app to
>> 30. If a version with target API 30 has
>> already been published then we are past the
>> point of no return.
>
> In the long range, I will not be able te avoid API 30. I cannot bring my
> customers to install from F-Droid, sadly.
>
>> To cooperate with the storage access framework
>> past API 29 is very tricky. Termux recently
>> abandoned their Play Store distributed version
>
> I have not looked at the Scoped Storage API yet. Is it really a problem? The
> PilBox core runtime does not depend on external storage, so the API should be
> accessible from Lisp (with perhaps a slight modification of
> AndroidManifest.xml), no?
>
> ☺/ A!ex
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Re: pilbox file sharing

2021-01-19 Thread Wilhelm Fitzpatrick

On 1/18/21 11:21 PM, Alexander Burger wrote:


I have not looked at the Scoped Storage API yet. Is it really a problem? The
PilBox core runtime does not depend on external storage, so the API should be
accessible from Lisp (with perhaps a slight modification of
AndroidManifest.xml), no?

☺/ A!ex


I confess I've not dug into it myself either, as I've not had the need 
to do external file access in any of my apps. As you say, since Pilbox 
allows calls to be made to the Android framework, it should be possible 
to cobble something together. The general approach as I understand it is 
that the app makes a request that causes a system UI to appear that 
allows the user to select a file to operate on, or (I believe) a 
directory tree. There is definitely some approach that the various file 
manager apps are using to adapt to this new world.


What I'm not clear on myself is if this is a permission grant that then 
allows normal file IO operations to be done, or if the access has to 
take place through a new API path.


-wilhelm


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