AW: Enterprise edition

2020-07-22 Thread Prof. Dr. Michael Schefczyk
Dear Janos,

Thank you very much for your contributions in providing a chance for everyone 
to make e-mail safer and more compliant!

I am convinced that many people do value this very much while too few take a 
chance to say

T H A N K S!

Regards,

Michael

Technische Universität Dresden
Fakultät Wirtschaftswissenschaften
Lehrstuhl für Entrepreneurship und Innovation
Prof. Dr. Michael Schefczyk
D-01062 Dresden

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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: s...@acts.hu  
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2020 21:08
An: Piler User 
Betreff: Re: Enterprise edition



I'd like to clarify a few things. I'll use the following conventions in this 
email to distinguish between the open source and commercial editions of piler:

- 'piler': the open source email archiving project
- 'piler-ee': the commercial, enterprise version of piler


I'm a huge fan of open source projects, and even though I'm working on a paid, 
commercial product of piler-ee, I'd like to emphasize that

- I intend to keep piler open source, you have access to the source code
- I won't remove any feature from piler to make piler-ee more attractive
- I won't force you to switch to piler-ee*
- You can use piler for whatever purposes absolutely free of charge


Note that despite piler doesn't have the word 'enterprise' among its 
adjectives, it doesn't mean it's a crappy product you shouldn't use it for 
company purposes. It's quite the opposite. I believe that piler is a decent 
product for a secure email archive (especially if you regularly backup its key 
components, but that's a story for another day).

However, I've been looking for ways to monetize the popularity of piler, so 
I've decided to fork it, and been working on piler-ee, including commercial 
services as well even for piler.

*: check out https://mailpiler.com/ if you are curious what piler-ee offers for 
you.


Janos


On 2020-07-22 18:07, Martin Nadvornik wrote:
> Hi Marcelo,
> 
> can't speek for Janos, the developer of Piler, but I am not aware of 
> any changes. What did you read that leads you into thinking piler is 
> not open source anymore?
> The source code is available like always at 
> https://bitbucket.org/jsuto/piler/src/master/ and the master branch 
> had the last commit 4 days ago...
> 
> There has always been an enterprise edition (at least as long as I 
> know the project) but you are not required to pay anything to use 
> piler when using the open source version.
> 
> Or maybe you got confused because the site currently seems a bit 
> broken and clicking on "GoBD notes" leads to the enterprise 
> documentation. The normal documentation ist still reachable under 
> http://www.mailpiler.org/wiki/current:index however.
> 
> Janos: FYI the website seems broken. I guess "Please fill or disable 
> this placeholder" is not something that is supposed to be there :)
> 
> Regards,
> Martin
> 
> Am 2020-07-22 17:51, schrieb Marcelo Machado:
>> Hello everyone.
>> 
>> Is Mail Piler only commercial now?
>> 
>> Does the Open Source Edition still exist?
>> 
>> Marcelo Gomes




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Re: Deleting emails

2020-07-22 Thread Marcelo Machado
Thank you again Janos.

Em qua., 22 de jul. de 2020 às 17:33,  escreveu:

>
>
> Hello Marcelo,
>
> connect to the piler mysql database, and execute the following query:
>
> update metadata set retained=10 where id > x;
>
> Then let pilerpurge.py take care of the rest.
>
> x: is the numeric id of the last email you want to keep.
> Make sure to double check, because after purging the emails
> they are gone for good.
>
> Janos
>
> On 2020-07-22 00:49, Marcelo Machado wrote:
> > Hello everyone.
> >
> > How to delete emails from a specific date until the end of all stored
> > emails?
> >
> > Marcelo Gomes
>
>


Re: Deleting emails

2020-07-22 Thread sj




Hello Marcelo,

connect to the piler mysql database, and execute the following query:

update metadata set retained=10 where id > x;

Then let pilerpurge.py take care of the rest.

x: is the numeric id of the last email you want to keep.
Make sure to double check, because after purging the emails
they are gone for good.

Janos

On 2020-07-22 00:49, Marcelo Machado wrote:

Hello everyone.

How to delete emails from a specific date until the end of all stored
emails?

Marcelo Gomes




Re: Enterprise edition

2020-07-22 Thread sj




It's ok. Btw. thanks Martin reporting the website issue. The site's 
cache

was corrupted, now it's back online.

Janos

On 2020-07-22 21:17, Marcelo Machado wrote:

Janos, I'm sorry if I was misunderstood.
I didn't know the piler.com [1] website and I accidentally entered it
thinking I was accessing the piler.org [2] website.
It was a mess on my part so I asked the question.
Sorry if I caused a problem.

Marcelo

Em qua., 22 de jul. de 2020 às 16:08,  escreveu:


I'd like to clarify a few things. I'll use the following conventions
in this email to distinguish between the open source and commercial
editions of piler:

- 'piler': the open source email archiving project
- 'piler-ee': the commercial, enterprise version of piler

I'm a huge fan of open source projects, and even though I'm working
on a
paid, commercial product of piler-ee, I'd like to emphasize that

- I intend to keep piler open source, you have access to the source
code
- I won't remove any feature from piler to make piler-ee more
attractive
- I won't force you to switch to piler-ee*
- You can use piler for whatever purposes absolutely free of charge

Note that despite piler doesn't have the word 'enterprise' among its

adjectives,
it doesn't mean it's a crappy product you shouldn't use it for
company
purposes. It's quite the opposite. I believe that piler is a decent
product
for a secure email archive (especially if you regularly backup its
key
components,
but that's a story for another day).

However, I've been looking for ways to monetize the popularity of
piler,
so I've decided to fork it, and been working on piler-ee, including
commercial
services as well even for piler.

*: check out https://mailpiler.com/ if you are curious what piler-ee
offers for you.

Janos

On 2020-07-22 18:07, Martin Nadvornik wrote:

Hi Marcelo,

can't speek for Janos, the developer of Piler, but I am not aware

of

any changes. What did you read that leads you into thinking piler

is

not open source anymore?
The source code is available like always at
https://bitbucket.org/jsuto/piler/src/master/ and the master

branch

had the last commit 4 days ago...

There has always been an enterprise edition (at least as long as I
know the project) but you are not required to pay anything to use
piler when using the open source version.

Or maybe you got confused because the site currently seems a bit
broken and clicking on "GoBD notes" leads to the enterprise
documentation. The normal documentation ist still reachable under
http://www.mailpiler.org/wiki/current:index however.

Janos: FYI the website seems broken. I guess "Please fill or

disable

this placeholder" is not something that is supposed to be there :)

Regards,
Martin

Am 2020-07-22 17:51, schrieb Marcelo Machado:

Hello everyone.

Is Mail Piler only commercial now?

Does the Open Source Edition still exist?

Marcelo Gomes



Links:
--
[1] http://piler.com
[2] http://piler.org




Re: Enterprise edition

2020-07-22 Thread Marcelo Machado
Janos, I'm sorry if I was misunderstood.
I didn't know the piler.com website and I accidentally entered it thinking
I was accessing the piler.org website.
It was a mess on my part so I asked the question.
Sorry if I caused a problem.

Marcelo

Em qua., 22 de jul. de 2020 às 16:08,  escreveu:

>
>
> I'd like to clarify a few things. I'll use the following conventions
> in this email to distinguish between the open source and commercial
> editions of piler:
>
> - 'piler': the open source email archiving project
> - 'piler-ee': the commercial, enterprise version of piler
>
>
> I'm a huge fan of open source projects, and even though I'm working on a
> paid, commercial product of piler-ee, I'd like to emphasize that
>
> - I intend to keep piler open source, you have access to the source code
> - I won't remove any feature from piler to make piler-ee more attractive
> - I won't force you to switch to piler-ee*
> - You can use piler for whatever purposes absolutely free of charge
>
>
> Note that despite piler doesn't have the word 'enterprise' among its
> adjectives,
> it doesn't mean it's a crappy product you shouldn't use it for company
> purposes. It's quite the opposite. I believe that piler is a decent
> product
> for a secure email archive (especially if you regularly backup its key
> components,
> but that's a story for another day).
>
> However, I've been looking for ways to monetize the popularity of piler,
> so I've decided to fork it, and been working on piler-ee, including
> commercial
> services as well even for piler.
>
> *: check out https://mailpiler.com/ if you are curious what piler-ee
> offers for you.
>
>
> Janos
>
>
> On 2020-07-22 18:07, Martin Nadvornik wrote:
> > Hi Marcelo,
> >
> > can't speek for Janos, the developer of Piler, but I am not aware of
> > any changes. What did you read that leads you into thinking piler is
> > not open source anymore?
> > The source code is available like always at
> > https://bitbucket.org/jsuto/piler/src/master/ and the master branch
> > had the last commit 4 days ago...
> >
> > There has always been an enterprise edition (at least as long as I
> > know the project) but you are not required to pay anything to use
> > piler when using the open source version.
> >
> > Or maybe you got confused because the site currently seems a bit
> > broken and clicking on "GoBD notes" leads to the enterprise
> > documentation. The normal documentation ist still reachable under
> > http://www.mailpiler.org/wiki/current:index however.
> >
> > Janos: FYI the website seems broken. I guess "Please fill or disable
> > this placeholder" is not something that is supposed to be there :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Martin
> >
> > Am 2020-07-22 17:51, schrieb Marcelo Machado:
> >> Hello everyone.
> >>
> >> Is Mail Piler only commercial now?
> >>
> >> Does the Open Source Edition still exist?
> >>
> >> Marcelo Gomes
>
>


Re: Enterprise edition

2020-07-22 Thread sj




I'd like to clarify a few things. I'll use the following conventions
in this email to distinguish between the open source and commercial
editions of piler:

- 'piler': the open source email archiving project
- 'piler-ee': the commercial, enterprise version of piler


I'm a huge fan of open source projects, and even though I'm working on a
paid, commercial product of piler-ee, I'd like to emphasize that

- I intend to keep piler open source, you have access to the source code
- I won't remove any feature from piler to make piler-ee more attractive
- I won't force you to switch to piler-ee*
- You can use piler for whatever purposes absolutely free of charge


Note that despite piler doesn't have the word 'enterprise' among its 
adjectives,

it doesn't mean it's a crappy product you shouldn't use it for company
purposes. It's quite the opposite. I believe that piler is a decent 
product
for a secure email archive (especially if you regularly backup its key 
components,

but that's a story for another day).

However, I've been looking for ways to monetize the popularity of piler,
so I've decided to fork it, and been working on piler-ee, including 
commercial

services as well even for piler.

*: check out https://mailpiler.com/ if you are curious what piler-ee
offers for you.


Janos


On 2020-07-22 18:07, Martin Nadvornik wrote:

Hi Marcelo,

can't speek for Janos, the developer of Piler, but I am not aware of
any changes. What did you read that leads you into thinking piler is
not open source anymore?
The source code is available like always at
https://bitbucket.org/jsuto/piler/src/master/ and the master branch
had the last commit 4 days ago...

There has always been an enterprise edition (at least as long as I
know the project) but you are not required to pay anything to use
piler when using the open source version.

Or maybe you got confused because the site currently seems a bit
broken and clicking on "GoBD notes" leads to the enterprise
documentation. The normal documentation ist still reachable under
http://www.mailpiler.org/wiki/current:index however.

Janos: FYI the website seems broken. I guess "Please fill or disable
this placeholder" is not something that is supposed to be there :)

Regards,
Martin

Am 2020-07-22 17:51, schrieb Marcelo Machado:

Hello everyone.

Is Mail Piler only commercial now?

Does the Open Source Edition still exist?

Marcelo Gomes




Re: Enterprise edition

2020-07-22 Thread Martin Nadvornik




Hi Marcelo,

can't speek for Janos, the developer of Piler, but I am not aware of any 
changes. What did you read that leads you into thinking piler is not 
open source anymore?
The source code is available like always at 
https://bitbucket.org/jsuto/piler/src/master/ and the master branch had 
the last commit 4 days ago...


There has always been an enterprise edition (at least as long as I know 
the project) but you are not required to pay anything to use piler when 
using the open source version.


Or maybe you got confused because the site currently seems a bit broken 
and clicking on "GoBD notes" leads to the enterprise documentation. The 
normal documentation ist still reachable under 
http://www.mailpiler.org/wiki/current:index however.


Janos: FYI the website seems broken. I guess "Please fill or disable 
this placeholder" is not something that is supposed to be there :)


Regards,
Martin

Am 2020-07-22 17:51, schrieb Marcelo Machado:

Hello everyone.

Is Mail Piler only commercial now?

Does the Open Source Edition still exist?

Marcelo Gomes




Re: Enterprise edition

2020-07-22 Thread Marcelo Machado
Sorry,
Please disregard the previous message.

Marcelo

Em qua., 22 de jul. de 2020 às 12:51, Marcelo Machado 
escreveu:

> Hello everyone.
>
> Is Mail Piler only commercial now?
>
> Does the Open Source Edition still exist?
>
> Marcelo Gomes
>


Enterprise edition

2020-07-22 Thread Marcelo Machado
Hello everyone.

Is Mail Piler only commercial now?

Does the Open Source Edition still exist?

Marcelo Gomes