Re: [pinhole-discussion] Wroldwide Pinhole Photography Day Logo Poll

2001-03-12 Thread Guy Glorieux
Very good point, Michael!
In fact, unless we find a generous donator, we can be sure that a lot of the
paper printed material that will be circulated or posted will be black and
white!  Of course, we can all use our inkjet printer to print the color Logo on
nice paper and then make copies of the Press Release or any other documents that
will go with the promotion of WPP-Day!

Guy

Michael Keller wrote:

> It's wise to think about whether a logo will need to be translated to black
> and white for certain needs. If so, the logo should be chosen with that need
> in mind.
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[pinhole-discussion] Re: New Camera Design

2001-03-12 Thread NORLINK
There was a question about the value of having a ground glass on a PH/ZP 
camera
I found this information on the Photo Technical Group site. There are PDF's 
for the camera and an exposure calculator.




Ground Glass Back: Due to the small size of the pinhole and zone plate 
apertures,
using the ground glass to compose or frame the image can be somewhat 
difficult. The
view is REALLY dark! To use the ground glass back, a dark cloth with an 
elastic band
that fits tightly around the camera body and your head is required. All light 
must be
shielded from the rear of the ground glass! When using this method, use the 
zone plate
instead of the pinhole for viewing, then orient the desired aperture when you 
are ready to make the shot.

Happy Trails,
Kurt Norlin



RE: [pinhole-discussion] Wroldwide Pinhole Photography Day Logo Poll

2001-03-12 Thread Michael Keller
It's wise to think about whether a logo will need to be translated to black
and white for certain needs. If so, the logo should be chosen with that need
in mind.




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Wroldwide Pinhole Photography Day Logo Poll

2001-03-12 Thread George L Smyth
--- Simon Cygielski  wrote:
> I just voted in the survey, but I want to take the opportunity to lobby
> for the design with the pinhole photographer on top of the world. That
> really makes a statement, doesn't it? 

Yeah, that's he's got a pinhole for a belly button.   

Sorry, just being a wise guy.

Cheers -

george

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Wroldwide Pinhole Photography Day Logo Poll

2001-03-12 Thread Simon Cygielski
I just voted in the survey, but I want to take the opportunity to lobby
for the design with the pinhole photographer on top of the world. That
really makes a statement, doesn't it? 
Seriously, though, it's my favorite because it says world AND pinhole
photography without looking corporate. I love it. Kudos to the artist. 
I only wrote this note because I thought the design was kind of buried
under the other ones, and thought it should get more attention. 

Thanks, 
Simon




Re: WPPD PR German Translation was Re: [pinhole-discussion] PRESS RELEASE! Worlwide Pinhole Photography Day

2001-03-12 Thread Jean Daubas
Thanks  Leezy
It is a nice idea. If your son is OK for that , make me know so that I may
get him in touch with an other translator in Dutch !
Thanks for your help

Jean


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[pinhole-discussion] Wroldwide Pinhole Photography Day Logo Poll

2001-03-12 Thread James Kellar
At this time I want to annouce to the Disscussion Group that we now have a
poll for you to Vote on which logo you would like to see for the WPPD. A
couple things you might want to consider before you vote. The logo will be
used with and with out the text that goes along with it. Not all the logos
have the correct text. The logos were submitted before the name of the site
was choosen. The logo choosen logo might chang a bit as web site issues crop
up. The logo will in some way influence who the site will look over all.

You can find the polling site at http://www.p at ???/discussion/polls.php

You will have untill Saturday 19:00 GMT to vote.

Thanks

James




Re: WPPD PR German Translation was Re: [pinhole-discussion] PRESS RELEASE! Worlwide Pinhole Photography Day

2001-03-12 Thread B2MYOUNG
Do we need someone for Dutch translation?
If so, I'll ask my son. He lived in Amsterdam for quite a long time.
Best to all,
leezy



WPPD PR German Translation was Re: [pinhole-discussion] PRESS RELEASE! Worlwide Pinhole Photography Day

2001-03-12 Thread Jean Daubas
Hello Dieter,

Thanks for working on the German translation of PR.

you wrote :
>  I am working on the German version already. Are we going to have the
>translations on the web site, too, or are they just for distribution?
>If so, to whom shall I mail it?

The translations will be used in 2 manners : directly, on the web
site  and also for all kinds of distribution (paper media, attached file
with an e-mail sent to a potential promotion target, etc.)
When your translation is over  - and I should suggest you to have a
"crossed check" of it with another multilingual German speaking member of
the list  (I am thinking of Beate Knappe if she accepts :
kna...@mail.stak.nrw.de) -  please be kind enough to send me your
translation so that I may make it available to be added to the site and that
we can "label" it as official and definitive German translation which can be
then distributed by "promotioners" to the German speaking contacts.
I' ll answer tour questions if needed

Thanks again for your help, Dieter,
Happy Pinholing
Jean



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Rue de Bourg-Sec25440  LIESLEFrance
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[pinhole-discussion] Progress report on WPPD

2001-03-12 Thread Gregg Kemp
Hi all,

I wanted to update everyone on where things are regarding the 1st worldewide 
pinhole photography day (WPPD).  

1) The official press release has been finalized.  A lot of work has gone into 
crafting this statement.  It was drafted by several people on the organizing 
team working together, incorporating input from several people on the 
discussion list.  Thanks to everyone who gave their time and thought in putting 
this together.  We feel that we've come up with a excellent statement for this 
year's event.  

2) We are working hard to translate the press release into several languages, 
and then begin distributing it around the world.  Jean Daubas is coordinating 
the translation efforts.  

3) We are working out the details of a plan for distributing the press release, 
and any other supporting documents that may be used.  Part of that plan's 
success will depend on the help of list members.  There will be more posted 
about that soon.

4) We are also working hard to put enough information on the pinhole day web 
site to support the press release.  We believe it is important that we NOT 
advertise the URL of the web site until there is adequate information to 
explain how pinhole day will function and some support for helping first time 
(or experienced) pinholers participate in the day and the site exhibit.

Many of us on the organizing team are putting in heavy hours in an effort to do 
this right and do it well.  I think are making great progress.  We appreciate 
everyone's patience, support, input, and cooperation in this "pinhole list" 
project and event.  We hope to have the solid beginning of a web site ready by 
this weekend.  At that time we also hope to be ready to begin distribution of 
the press release in several languages, and in several formats.

Thanks everyone - this is going to happen!

Gregg

> -Original Message-
> From: Guy Glorieux [mailto:guy.glori...@sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:46 AM
> To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] WWPPD Press Release - Last call for
> comments!
> 
> 
> Simon Cygielski wrote:
> 
> > This may be too late, as I didn't have a chance to read my 
> mail since
> > Thursday, but I think that Colin's edit of the press release reads
> > better than the one posted on pinholeday.org.
> >
> > Simon
> 
> Hi Simon!
> 
> Thanks for your comment.
> 
> The Press Release, like any other document intending to convey a
> particular message from a group of people, was developed through the
> efforts and input of several members of the Coordinating Team.  The
> wording and paragraph structure were chosen following a lot of group
> discussion and successive iterations on what we believed was 
> the best way
> of transmitting the message to the media that a group of pinhole
> photographers were launching a worldwide pinhole photography day.
> 
> Colin did a splendid job at providing a fresh perspective on 
> what we had
> put together from my initial draft press release some three 
> weeks ago and
> we retained many of the improvements he generously offered.  
> At the same
> time, there were also many times where the specific wording 
> we had chosen
> was based on a thorough discussion of what we really intended 
> to say and
> we decided to retain that particular wording or structure.  
> This was not
> intended to minimize Colin's efforts, but rather to add one additional
> level of contribution to a collective effort.
> 
> If you ever get involved in a similar process or if you get 
> to read a lot
> of similar documents, you come to will realize that 
> ultimately the final
> document constitutes the "common ground" between many different
> perspectives on each of the points being addressed, one of 
> them being the
> requirement that it should read in the best possible 
> language...   -:))
> 
> Hope this helps!  And, Colin, just a word to say that your input was
> tremendously appreciated!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Guy
> 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] WWPPD Press Release - Last call for comments!

2001-03-12 Thread James Kellar
on 3/12/01 6:45 AM, Guy Glorieux at guy.glori...@sympatico.ca wrote:

> Colin, just a word to say that your input was
> tremendously appreciated!

I whole heartily agree.

James




Re: [pinhole-discussion] WWPPD Press Release - Last call for comments!

2001-03-12 Thread Guy Glorieux
Simon Cygielski wrote:

> This may be too late, as I didn't have a chance to read my mail since
> Thursday, but I think that Colin's edit of the press release reads
> better than the one posted on pinholeday.org.
>
> Simon

Hi Simon!

Thanks for your comment.

The Press Release, like any other document intending to convey a
particular message from a group of people, was developed through the
efforts and input of several members of the Coordinating Team.  The
wording and paragraph structure were chosen following a lot of group
discussion and successive iterations on what we believed was the best way
of transmitting the message to the media that a group of pinhole
photographers were launching a worldwide pinhole photography day.

Colin did a splendid job at providing a fresh perspective on what we had
put together from my initial draft press release some three weeks ago and
we retained many of the improvements he generously offered.  At the same
time, there were also many times where the specific wording we had chosen
was based on a thorough discussion of what we really intended to say and
we decided to retain that particular wording or structure.  This was not
intended to minimize Colin's efforts, but rather to add one additional
level of contribution to a collective effort.

If you ever get involved in a similar process or if you get to read a lot
of similar documents, you come to will realize that ultimately the final
document constitutes the "common ground" between many different
perspectives on each of the points being addressed, one of them being the
requirement that it should read in the best possible language...   -:))

Hope this helps!  And, Colin, just a word to say that your input was
tremendously appreciated!

Cheers,

Guy




Re: [pinhole-discussion] WWPPD Press Release - Last call for comments!

2001-03-12 Thread Simon Cygielski
This may be too late, as I didn't have a chance to read my mail since
Thursday, but I think that Colin's edit of the press release reads
better than the one posted on pinholeday.org. 

Simon




Re: [pinhole-discussion] using digital camera

2001-03-12 Thread Pam Niedermayer
I think this is evidenced in scanning using CCD's, too. As nearly as I
can tell, CMOS somehow avoids this problem.

Pam

echinis...@gmx.de wrote:
> 
> > Why do you suppose that is?
> >
> > Pam
> >
> > Michael Keller wrote:
> > >...With digital, long exposures can lead to increased
> > > noise in the shadows.
> 
> The CCD chips tend to give a signal not only when they are exposed to light
> but also to temperature. This leads to ´thermal noise´, that can be seen best
> in the dark parts of the image and that accumulates over time.
> 
> Astronomers, who have kind of an addiction to long time exposures of dark
> skies, cool down their CCD cameras to minimize that noise.
> 
> servus
> 
> martin adler


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[pinhole-discussion] Zone Plate design

2001-03-12 Thread Eric Kees
I've read a number of papers explaining the physics of a Zone Plate.
However, I haven't seen anything that deals with the number of Zones that
comprise the Zone Plate.

Is there an optimum number of zones? Does it change with the focal length?
What is the effect on resolution & depth of field?

Thanks,

Eric Kees
Medford OR





Re: [pinhole-discussion] using digital camera

2001-03-12 Thread echiniscus
> Why do you suppose that is? 
> 
> Pam
> 
> Michael Keller wrote:
> > 
> > I've used a zone plate on a Nikon D1. Not real thrilled with my results,
> but
> > I think it's just me. With digital, long exposures can lead to increased
> > noise in the shadows.

The CCD chips tend to give a signal not only when they are exposed to light
but also to temperature. This leads to ´thermal noise´, that can be seen best
in the dark parts of the image and that accumulates over time.

Astronomers, who have kind of an addiction to long time exposures of dark
skies, cool down their CCD cameras to minimize that noise.

servus

martin adler

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Camera Design

2001-03-12 Thread John Yeo
It says extreme depth of field... and I would think that f/256 with a 2"
focal length would be pretty extreme depth of field.  I remember seeing this
camera once before... maybe somebody posted it to the list?  I'm curious if
anybody has one.  It seems like a lot of money for something that can be
home-made pretty easily.

John


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Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Camera Design


> > I ran into this the other day, and thought list members might find it
> > interesting.
> >
> > http://www.qualitycamera.com/zone%20plate%20.htm";>Untitled
Document
> > 
> > Kurt Norlin
>
>
> Their introduction says a zone plate has infinite depth of field.
> That's wrong.  Unlike a pinhole, a zone plate does focus light
> and has the same depth of field as a lens of similar focal length
> and f number.
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