RE: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks
yep, I'll second that!! andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of figuref...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 4:44 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks In a message dated 3/21/01 1:38:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, tima...@hotmail.com writes: Well,you know, a lot of people hide behind the equipment question and think that if only they had the "right" or a "really good" camera they could be great photographers. What is really missing is the confidence in themselves and their own vision. They don't really believe it's the person that clicks the shutter (removes the lenscap?)that creates the magic. Too bad they are afraid to screw up, to allow that old serendipidy to happen. You know what? I love technology,But i think some of my best work has come from my little "experments"and not from my high tech crap :) just my 2 cents, Harry Figurefoto.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks
Well, I'm kinda a hardware geek, but I have no illusions as to a camera making me a better photographer in terms of technique, I just love cameras! :-) I think they're often beautiful pieces of machinery and fun to fool around with. When I got my Exakta VX-IIa, I just sat and looked at it for an hour or so. What a beautiful camera it is! Much more aesthetically pleasing than my Nikon N70, which for all it's features is just a black piece of plastic. I love the look of my two Zero2000s much more than my Leonardo 4x5 just because Zernike makes them look nice with varnish and brass. Both take great shots, but the Zero2000 is out where I can see it. However, I do believe that depending on your needs a certain piece of camera equipment can "make you a better photographer" in that if you really need an incredibly sharp photo, or you really need a macro lens, or you really need a telephoto lens to make the shot you want, then you probably really need that piece of equipment. Of course, the equipment is just facilitating the ideas in this case, they didn't create them. But without them, you can't be the photographer you want to be. Hope that makes some kind of sense. Benno Jones Tina Martin wrote: > > Well,you know, a lot of people hide behind the equipment question and think > that if only they had the "right" or a "really good" camera they could be > great photographers. What is really missing is the confidence in themselves > and their own vision. They don't really believe it's the person that clicks > the shutter (removes the lenscap?)that creates the magic. Too bad they are > afraid to screw up, to allow that old serendipidy to happen. > Tina > > > >They weren't the least bit interested, when I showed them the cap and my > >zone plate matted (and hand colored) images.< > > > >Not supprizing, they are all hardware geeks. They are in love with the > >machines, and not the images they produce. Photographs are only an excuse > >to play with their toys. When I run into people that only wan't to talk > >about their cameras and lenses my responce has become - show me what you > >have done, not what you own. Kurt > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ -- See my homepage at http://www.jps.net/benshan It's a well-known fact that although the public is fine when taken individually, when it forms itself into large groups, it tends to act as though it has one partially consumed Pez tablet for a brain. - Dave Barry
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks
Well,you know, a lot of people hide behind the equipment question and think that if only they had the "right" or a "really good" camera they could be great photographers. What is really missing is the confidence in themselves and their own vision. *Very true, it is creative vision, or a "good eye", that makes a wonderful photo. (or painting, or whatever) I once worked in a photo store & had a woman come in, steam coming out of her ears and demand to know "why the Nikon she bought from us made crappy photos!!" she said "it's an expensive camera, I paid plenty, and I want to know why it doesn't take good pictures!!" Oh boy!! The camera won't do it for you, you have to. Nothing will compare to a well conceived and well executed idea. They don't really believe it's the person that clicks the shutter (removes the lenscap?)that creates the magic. Too bad they are afraid to screw up, to allow that old serendipidy to happen. Yeah, they probably are. I think that the flip side of this coin, is that I do believe that a certain amount of gear IS helpful, and can improve on what you are capable of doing. (differing focal length pinholes, a zone plate or rangefinder for proper framing, different focal-length lenses for lens photo) Beyond that line though, lies the title "gearhead"
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks
In a message dated 3/21/01 1:38:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, tima...@hotmail.com writes: > Well,you know, a lot of people hide behind the equipment question and think > that if only they had the "right" or a "really good" camera they could be > great photographers. What is really missing is the confidence in themselves > and their own vision. They don't really believe it's the person that clicks > the shutter (removes the lenscap?)that creates the magic. Too bad they are > You know what? I love technology,But i think some of my best work has come from my little "experments"and not from my high tech crap :) just my 2 cents, Harry http://www.figurefoto.com/";>Figurefoto.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks
Well,you know, a lot of people hide behind the equipment question and think that if only they had the "right" or a "really good" camera they could be great photographers. What is really missing is the confidence in themselves and their own vision. They don't really believe it's the person that clicks the shutter (removes the lenscap?)that creates the magic. Too bad they are afraid to screw up, to allow that old serendipidy to happen. Tina >They weren't the least bit interested, when I showed them the cap and my zone plate matted (and hand colored) images.< Not supprizing, they are all hardware geeks. They are in love with the machines, and not the images they produce. Photographs are only an excuse to play with their toys. When I run into people that only wan't to talk about their cameras and lenses my responce has become - show me what you have done, not what you own. Kurt _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole photo book on Venice
>They weren't the least bit interested, when I showed them the cap and my zone >plate matted (and hand colored) images.< Not supprizing, they are all hardware geeks. They are in love with the machines, and not the images they produce. Photographs are only an excuse to play with their toys. When I run into people that only wan't to talk about their cameras and lenses my responce has become - show me what you have done, not what you own. Kurt
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole photo book on Venice
In a message dated 3/20/01 5:54:55 PM, pen...@home.com writes: << THAT IS WHAT IT'S CALLED A NON-KOSHER MENCHE!! >> LOL Kosher, smosher...you don't have to be Jewish to be a mensche! leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole photo book on Venice
In a message dated 3/20/01 5:08:40 PM, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes: << Hmmm. ... .. .Are menches allowed to have fun, I mean "real" fun, like doing crazy things in the middle of the night, eating dessert before the soup, walking in the rain without rain boots or an umbrella, making soap bubbles in the bath? I mean, all these crazy things, like replacing a Hasselblad by a pinhole camera and having fun? Hope so! ...-:)) >> Yep! Those are some of the pre-requisites. To be a menche...ya' gotta' have fun! leezy