Re: [pinhole-discussion] Help! from the Girl Scouts

2001-04-02 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message -
From: hfh...@aol.com

My troop is currently working on their photgraphy badge.  I am looking for
advice cuz we oh-so-really-don't know what we are doing. We've made
pinholes
out of boutique sized Kleenex boxes, lined with black paper. Hopefully they
are light- tight. We have color film---Kodak Tri-X pan film which is 4x 5
and fits neatly into the back of the box...no trimming.  We are
experimenting
with exposure times, and can use advice on this.

Tri-X is not a color film but a BW film. Since you are using single sheet
4x5 film and already esperimenting with it, I assume you have a darkroom or
a room dark that allows you to load the film into the pinhole cameras.  If
that is the case, why not process the film yourself?  It is easy, cheap and
results can be had as soon as you can process the film after having exposed
it.

About exposure time, I'd need the distance pinhole to film (focal length of
your camera) and the diameter of your pinhole itself to give you some
suggestions for different light conditions.

Guillermo




[pinhole-discussion] Re: Zero 2000 camera coming to Canada!

2001-04-02 Thread Zernike Au
Guy,
Thanks so much, and also thanks to all brothers and sisiters of the
list... :-))
Your lith images are impressive, thanks for sharing.

Zernike

Guy Wrote:
 Hmmm...
 I wonder who told Mike Chan about the Zero 2000 camera?  -:))
 The great brotherhood of the list, I suppose....-:))

 Zernike!  Congratulations!  It's great to see you advertised so quickly
 on my friend's web site.  A fine cameramaker with a fine photo supplier
 working together.  This should produce wonders!






[pinhole-discussion] Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day web site

2001-04-02 Thread Gregg Kemp

The pinhole day web site is officially re-opened!  The URL is:

http://www.pinholeday.org

Everyone is invited to take a look and let us know what you think.  Please 
keep in mind that although much of the site is ready, there is still quite 
a bit that is under development.  Much of the English content has been 
translated into Chinese, Deutsch, Dutch, Español, Français, Japanese, 
Polski, Serbian, Slovensko, and Svensk.  But, not all the pages have been 
translated.  The translations are an ongoing part of things.


We didn't want to delay too long, letting everyone see the site.  We would 
appreciate any feedback - especially any problems you encounter, before we 
start promoting the site.


So, for now, please look around and let us know what you think and any 
problems you find.  Guy Glorieux will soon ask for everyone's help in 
promoting WPPD and the web site.


This is really happening and everyone's help and input will make the 
difference on how big an event it will be.


:)

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[pinhole-discussion] Help! from the Girl Scouts

2001-04-02 Thread Hfh105
My troop is currently working on their photgraphy badge.  I am looking for 
advice cuz we oh-so-really-don't know what we are doing.  We've made pinholes 
out of boutique sized Kleenex boxes, lined with black paper. Hopefully they 
are light- tight. We have color film---Kodak Tri-X pan film which is 4x 5 
and fits neatly into the back of the box...no trimming.  We are experimenting 
with exposure times, and can use advice on this.  My main problem is where to 
get the film developed.  Apparently, the local drug store is out.  We are 
located on Long Island NY. The one camera shop I was directed to a month ago 
went out of business before we could get anywhere w/ development.  Would 
appreciate advice and especially how to proceed with who can develop our film.



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole and lith printing - A natural complement?

2001-04-02 Thread Pam Niedermayer
I'd bet they are tricky; but Photoshop could come to your rescue at
this point, now that you've got the idea down.

Pam

Guy Glorieux wrote:
 
 Thanks, Pam.
 They're kind of tricky to make.  These were my first experiments and the luck 
 of
 the innocent was obviously at play.  I find that, knowing more about the 
 camera
 and the results, I tend to plan too much the sequence of overlaps and, as a 
 result,
 a 'balanced' panorama gets more difficult to achieve.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Guy
 
 Pam Niedermayer wrote:
 
  Guy, these panoramas are so cool, really like all three on that page.
 
  Pam
 
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Pinehill Softworks Inc.
600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
Austin, TX 78705
512-236-1677
http://www.pinehill.com



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole and lith printing - A natural complement?

2001-04-02 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 4/2/01 8:15:30 AM, pam_p...@cape.com writes:

 http://www3.sympatico.ca/guy.glorieux/pnhl4Ang.htm 

ABSOLOUTELY STUNNING!
Thank you for sharing.
leezy



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole and lith printing - A natural complement?

2001-04-02 Thread Guy Glorieux
Thanks, Pam.
They're kind of tricky to make.  These were my first experiments and the luck of
the innocent was obviously at play.  I find that, knowing more about the 
camera
and the results, I tend to plan too much the sequence of overlaps and, as a 
result,
a 'balanced' panorama gets more difficult to achieve.

Cheers,

Guy

Pam Niedermayer wrote:

 Guy, these panoramas are so cool, really like all three on that page.

 Pam

 Guy Glorieux wrote:
 
  This is an ancient Kodak 2A folder converted into pinhole by removing all of
  the front elements, including the bellows and replacing it by a plate with a
  single pinhole.  I feed it with 120 film.
  The image frame inside is 2 1/2 x 4 1/4.  Since I move the film only 
  partway,
  I get overlapping exposures on the full length of the film. This gives me
  greater flexibility than having a multiple pinhole.  Using a 6x9 negative
  holder under the enlarger, I can then select any portion of the negative 
  with
  overlapping images and print it full frame.  In some cases, I have contact
  printed the whole negative and got an image that is 2 1/4 x 20 inches.
  Check my web site gallery for these at
  http://www3.sympatico.ca/guy.glorieux/pnhl4Ang.htm
  ...
 --
 Pamela G. Niedermayer
 Pinehill Softworks Inc.
 600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
 Austin, TX 78705
 512-236-1677
 http://www.pinehill.com

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole and lith printing - A natural complement?

2001-04-02 Thread Tina Martin
Thanks, Guy! I had not checked 8 Elm's site for a long time since it seemed 
to be inactive. Now I'll get to see Zernike's zone plate camera.

The lith kit looks interesting. Will have to trot down there soon.
Tina


Tina Martin wrote:

 Which lith printing paper kit were you using, Guy?

Hi Tina,
I've been using the Moersch Special Edition 5 Lith kit with Forte 
Polywarmtone

paper.
I've been working with Eight Elm photo in Toronto on this and they are
discussing with Moersch from Germany to import it in Canada.  As I 
understand
it, it will be available in the Spring but perhaps they have a few kits in 
stock

at the moment.
They now advertise the Moersch chemistry on their own web site.
http://www.eightelmphoto.com/



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Help me Keep on Pinholin'!!!

2001-04-02 Thread James Kellar
Tom,

I have been thinking of you often, and will continue to send good thoughts
and prayers your way.



James




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole and lith printing - A natural complement?

2001-04-02 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Guy, these panoramas are so cool, really like all three on that page.

Pam

Guy Glorieux wrote:
 
 This is an ancient Kodak 2A folder converted into pinhole by removing all of
 the front elements, including the bellows and replacing it by a plate with a
 single pinhole.  I feed it with 120 film.
 The image frame inside is 2 1/2 x 4 1/4.  Since I move the film only partway,
 I get overlapping exposures on the full length of the film. This gives me
 greater flexibility than having a multiple pinhole.  Using a 6x9 negative
 holder under the enlarger, I can then select any portion of the negative with
 overlapping images and print it full frame.  In some cases, I have contact
 printed the whole negative and got an image that is 2 1/4 x 20 inches.
 Check my web site gallery for these at
 http://www3.sympatico.ca/guy.glorieux/pnhl4Ang.htm
 ...
-- 
Pamela G. Niedermayer
Pinehill Softworks Inc.
600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
Austin, TX 78705
512-236-1677
http://www.pinehill.com



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole and lith printing - A natural complement?

2001-04-02 Thread Guy Glorieux

Mike Vande Bunt wrote:

 Very nice, I really like the print.  Could you tell us about
 the camera and film used (I am guessing there were 2
 pinholes...)?

Mike,
This is an ancient Kodak 2A folder converted into pinhole by removing all of
the front elements, including the bellows and replacing it by a plate with a
single pinhole.  I feed it with 120 film.
The image frame inside is 2 1/2 x 4 1/4.  Since I move the film only partway,
I get overlapping exposures on the full length of the film. This gives me
greater flexibility than having a multiple pinhole.  Using a 6x9 negative
holder under the enlarger, I can then select any portion of the negative with
overlapping images and print it full frame.  In some cases, I have contact
printed the whole negative and got an image that is 2 1/4 x 20 inches.
Check my web site gallery for these at
http://www3.sympatico.ca/guy.glorieux/pnhl4Ang.htm


 Also, would it be possible to see an example
 of a negative printed on both regular paper and lith paper
 so that we can see what the contribution of the lith paper
 is?  (It is hard to tell if contrast / tonality is due to it being
 pinhole, or to the lith printmaking process.)


I don't have a standard print of the lith print I posted yesterday.  But I
just posted a lith print of a pinhole image I had already uploaded earlier
this year on the gallery (Rose in winter).

To see the difference, check:
http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/lithroselr.jpg
http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/roseinwinter2.jpg

Note that the standard print is cropped somewhat from the full negative,
while the lith print is full frame.  The lith print shows considerably more
contrast than the standard print.  It also has a ochre tone in the highlights
and dark brown/olive int eh shadows which I was not able to reproduce properly
in the posted image.
The actual print is 9 1/2 x 91/2.  It has considerable graininess arising from
the lith process but this is hardly visible on the posted image.  This gives a
nice vintage charm.  The paper is double-weight fiber, which also adds tactile
pleasure when holding the print.

Guy






Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole and lith printing - A natural complement?

2001-04-02 Thread George L Smyth
--- Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 Hi everybody!
 
 Really this has been busy times for me lately.  But, it seems I just
 can't stop...  I received last week my first Lith Printing kit and I
 just had to try it on some of my favorite negatives.  What a discovery!
 To me Lith Printing is a natural complement to pinhole.
 
 I've loaded a picture at
 http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/accalmie1lr.jpg
 
 Comments welcome!

Guy -

Very nice work, I enjoy the atmosphere.

I will be working with Lith printing this summer, and it is good to see that
there are others doing the same.

Cheers -

george

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Pinhole and lith printing - A natural complement?

2001-04-02 Thread Mike Vande Bunt
Very nice, I really like the print.  Could you tell us about
the camera and film used (I am guessing there were 2
pinholes...)?  Also, would it be possible to see an example
of a negative printed on both regular paper and lith paper
so that we can see what the contribution of the lith paper
is?  (It is hard to tell if contrast / tonality is due to it being
pinhole, or to the lith printmaking process.)

Mike Vande Bunt


Guy Glorieux wrote:

 Hi everybody!

 Really this has been busy times for me lately.  But, it seems I just
 can't stop...  I received last week my first Lith Printing kit and I
 just had to try it on some of my favorite negatives.  What a discovery!
 To me Lith Printing is a natural complement to pinhole.

 I've loaded a picture at
 http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/accalmie1lr.jpg

 Comments welcome!

 Anybody else does lith printing on this list?  I'd be happy to hear and
 share experiences.

 Cheers,

 Guy

 P.S.  Lith Printing is a special BW printing process using specific
 types of paper and a specific type of paper developer.  The paper is
 massively overexposed under the enlarger and processed in highly diluted
 developer for very a long period of times (from 8 to 30 minutes, with
 constant agitation...).  The print turns in shades of colors and yields
 very different contrasts ranges in the highlights and the shadows.
 Something like split toning, but different, all taking place at the
 developer stage.

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