Re: [pinhole-discussion] proofs vs actual prints?

2001-07-23 Thread Gregory Parkinson

At 6:58 PM -0400 7/23/01, R Duarte wrote:

This is probably a super-newbie question but I've never dealt with
professional photo labs until now.  I got 5x5 proofs when I had my
Zero2000's 120 roll film developed this past week.  I'm curious.. how
different do these look as compared to what I would get if I asked them to
make a print from the same negative.  Is there a difference in color,
clarity, etc. or is what I'm looking at the same thing I'd get if I were to
get more prints made?


Unless all your negs were perfectly exposed (very common with
pinhole photos ::giggle::) then the proof will not always be
indicative - since the film has a +- which is greater than
the paper does.  Also some labs print through the clear
neg holders.

You can look at the negs - find one on the proof that looks
good and look at the shadows and highlights in the neg.  then
look at the other negs and see how they look comparitively


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] proofs vs actual prints?

2001-07-23 Thread Pinholing
In a message dated 7/23/01 3:55:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ra...@rahji.com 
writes:


 This is probably a super-newbie question but I've never dealt with
 professional photo labs until now.  I got 5x5 proofs when I had my
 Zero2000's 120 roll film developed this past week.  I'm curious.. how
 different do these look as compared to what I would get if I asked them to
 make a print from the same negative.  Is there a difference in color,
 clarity, etc. or is what I'm looking at the same thing I'd get if I were to
 get more prints made?
 

It depends on the lab that you use. If a custom lab makes a print it should 
be better. If a machine makes the print it could be better or worse than your 
proof. An advantage in ordering an individual print is that you can ask the 
lab to crop it as you'd like it. Thus, a square negative might look great in 
an 8x10 print...if properly cropped.

Joel


[pinhole-discussion] proofs vs actual prints?

2001-07-23 Thread R Duarte
This is probably a super-newbie question but I've never dealt with
professional photo labs until now.  I got 5x5 proofs when I had my
Zero2000's 120 roll film developed this past week.  I'm curious.. how
different do these look as compared to what I would get if I asked them to
make a print from the same negative.  Is there a difference in color,
clarity, etc. or is what I'm looking at the same thing I'd get if I were to
get more prints made?

Thanks in advance for any answers,
Rob




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Not at Home/New image with new camera.

2001-07-23 Thread R Duarte
wow, bizarre!  now I see why someone would put a hole in the END of a tube..
I was thinking people were putting a hole in the flat end of the tube and
the paper/film on the other flat end... I didn't consider wrapping the paper
around as you did.  pretty cool!

 From: james kellar kell...@hotmail.com
 Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:08:42
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Not at Home/New image with new camera.
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have not been home much do to a sickness in the family and some other
 things that have kept me away from the old home stead. Any way I have
 subscribed via a hotmail account so I can keep in touch with you all when
 I'm not at home. If  you want to contact me personally please use the
 following address. pinh...@jameskellar.com. It might take a few days, but I
 will get back with you.
 
 For the last month or so I've toying around with the idea of making a tube
 camera with the pinhole in one of the end. I finally got around to making
 the camera, and boy what neat images. I have uploaded it to upload gallery.
 http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2001.php?cmd=maxstart=
 pic=james01.jpg.
 Let me know what you think.
 
 James
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Shutter advice

2001-07-23 Thread Brent Adler
What a brilliant Idea!

Thanks
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 Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 6:17 AM
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Shutter advice
 
 
  I am working on a first pinhole camera.  My early
  attempt worked fine with a tape shutter. I am
 hoping
  to use some 400 speed film and would like to make
 a
  spring enhanced shutter.  Can someone give me some
  instruction on its construction?
 
  Brent Adler
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] type 55

2001-07-23 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 7/23/01 1:41:50 PM, lcal...@uh.edu writes:

 I'm using a wide angle Leonard pinhole (f150) and type 55 Polaoid film.

Does anyone have any suggestions/advice:  (1) calculating exposures, (2)

caring for the film in the field, or (3)  anything else I should know?

Thanks

 

 

My suggestion is to use a normal dilution of PermaWash to clear the film 
instead of the recommended sodium sulfite. It is easier because it's not 
gritty, it's more accessible and dilutes instantly.
Good Luck!
leezy



[pinhole-discussion] Not at Home/New image with new camera.

2001-07-23 Thread james kellar

Hi all,

I have not been home much do to a sickness in the family and some other 
things that have kept me away from the old home stead. Any way I have 
subscribed via a hotmail account so I can keep in touch with you all when 
I'm not at home. If  you want to contact me personally please use the 
following address. pinh...@jameskellar.com. It might take a few days, but I 
will get back with you.


For the last month or so I've toying around with the idea of making a tube 
camera with the pinhole in one of the end. I finally got around to making 
the camera, and boy what neat images. I have uploaded it to upload gallery. 
http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2001.php?cmd=maxstart=pic=james01.jpg. 
Let me know what you think.


James

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RE: [pinhole-discussion] Shutter advice

2001-07-23 Thread Andy Schmitt
now that's a good idea...and a good use for all those floppies I have
thanks
andy schmitt

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Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Shutter advice


hello, you can try with the floppy disk metal protector device, it have a
spring and a window.
- Original Message -
From: Brent Adler adle...@yahoo.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 6:17 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Shutter advice


 I am working on a first pinhole camera.  My early
 attempt worked fine with a tape shutter. I am hoping
 to use some 400 speed film and would like to make a
 spring enhanced shutter.  Can someone give me some
 instruction on its construction?

 Brent Adler

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Gregg on the cover of Pinhoel Journal

2001-07-23 Thread Edward Levinson
The magazine hasn't made it to Japan yet but I patiently (like a pinhole
long exposure) for my copy to arrive. Congrats Gregg even though I haven't
seen it yet!

Ed

Many great shots.  I enjoy the Contemporary Pinhole Photography # X
issues because they contain such a wide variety of interesting photos.
Great work by everyone involved!

Mike Vande Bunt


Gregg Kemp wrote:

 Thanks James.  And yes, it was pretty neat to see one of my photos there
 on the cover of the Rolling... er... Pinhole Journal.  It's a good issue,
 too - quite a few people in it.



  Edward Levinson
*Specializing in Fine Art and Editorial Pinhole Photography*
*online portfolio at http://www.awa.or.jp/home/edo *





[pinhole-discussion] 35 mm films pinhole conversion, oatmeal box question

2001-07-23 Thread Uptown Gallery Frame Shop, LLC
Hello:

What 35mm films have people in this group experimented with for pinhole
purposes?

The hardest thing about converting my old Kodak SLR to pinhole has been
mounting the pinhole! I think I have it figured out...once I find some
reciprocity data for 35 mm film, I'll go try the camera out.

Lastly, a dumber than average question...with oatmeal box cameras, is
the focal plane on the concave side, or a flat end? 


Thanks

Murray