[pinhole-discussion] tubular containers

2001-08-14 Thread MVDtemporary
I can keep my eyes open...we get 6-7 diameter dense cardboard tubes in the 
mail on occasion with poster shipments and I have seen catalogs for venders 
selling all imaginable tube sizes - I think up to 8 diameter.


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[pinhole-discussion] Many Thanks re:Quaker Oats Box

2001-08-14 Thread Christian Harkness
Hi, many thanks for the many quick and helpful responses to my question.  I 
will get to work on it!

Again, many thanks!

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RE: [pinhole-discussion] changing colours

2001-08-14 Thread Andy Schmitt
ok ok ok so I goofed 8o)
andy

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From: Thomas Harvey harv...@aracnet.com

 I think the QuadTone inks will be a lot tougher on colors than the
fading!

That's right, QuadTone inks are for BW printing only.

 There are, however, archival color inksets for consumer grade Epson
 printers (the $300-or-so 1160 model, for example)

1160 is unfortunately out of production, you see some once in a while at
eBay.  Its fame is so great, soon it might become a cult printer, very
much like a plastic Diana camera is today, commanding  -perhaps-  higher
prices than when new.

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] changing colours

2001-08-14 Thread Guillermo
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From: Thomas Harvey harv...@aracnet.com

 I think the QuadTone inks will be a lot tougher on colors than the
fading!

That's right, QuadTone inks are for BW printing only.

 There are, however, archival color inksets for consumer grade Epson
 printers (the $300-or-so 1160 model, for example)

1160 is unfortunately out of production, you see some once in a while at
eBay.  Its fame is so great, soon it might become a cult printer, very
much like a plastic Diana camera is today, commanding  -perhaps-  higher
prices than when new.

Guillermo




Re: [pinhole-discussion] changing colours

2001-08-14 Thread Guillermo
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From: Jeff Dilcher r...@hiddenworld.net

 Try Epson's web site.
 I think one model is called a 2000 or 2000p.
 It is listed under their inkjet printers..

The Epson 1280 is -I believe- as good a printer as the more expensive 2000P,
but Epson doesn't make the archival cartridges for it, but OEM archival
cartridges can be bought from several sources.

Guillermo




Re: [pinhole-discussion] changing colours

2001-08-14 Thread David H Quackenbush
Hi,
 Olympus has an archival dye-sub printer that can be used with a computer
or as a stand-alone printer using your cameras removable media.
 Look at - P400.olympus.com -

Regards,  David Quackenbush


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] changing colours

2001-08-14 Thread Jeff Dilcher
Try Epson's web site.
I think one model is called a 2000 or 2000p.
It is listed under their inkjet printers..


On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Colin Talcroft wrote:

 Does anyone know names and model numbers of  the
 archival printers from Epson that Jeff mentions?
 Thanks.

 Colin

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] changing colours

2001-08-14 Thread Colin Talcroft
Does anyone know names and model numbers of  the
archival printers from Epson that Jeff mentions?
Thanks.

Colin

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RE: [pinhole-discussion] changing colours

2001-08-14 Thread Andy Schmitt
ah yes...the ultimate summer device...removes moisture  generates heat...
8o)
BTW,Would you subject real photographs to a greenhouse environment in
direct sunlight?
You've described about the ultimate method of killing pictures, short of
soaking them in water then putting them in the oven.
The fact that they lasted several months speaks highly of their resilience.
Take a look in the current View Camera Magazine about QuadTone inks. They
may help.
andy

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If possible, a dehumidifier in the area will help.
leezy

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] changing colours

2001-08-14 Thread Jeff Dilcher
That is because inkjet printers use ink that is really a dye, and dyes
based prints fade over (little) time.  The majority of current Inkjet prints 
are not archival like real photographs from a darkroom can be. 

I have noticed that Epson has begun to make archival printers, however
which they claim, the prints will last 200 years before fading.  Be prepared
to spend more for most of these, though.

I would never sell a print to someone that is not archival... in a few years
they are certainly going to be upset!


On Tuesday 14 August 2001 04:07, you wrote:
 Does anyone know a better alternative than Canons own colurs for their
 printers? I use a Canon BJC 7000 printer with Canon BC-60 Black ink and BC
 62 Photo Color ink. I have not had any problems before, but in my last
 exhibition I hung my pinhole colour prints in a greenhouse where they have
 been exposed to direct sunlight all day for two months and upon that high
 humidity in the nights. And that was a bit too tough! In the last weeks of
 the exhibition the pictures began to lose some of the colour, they became
 paler and turned more to the green. The theme for the picuters is garden
 vegetation and from a philosophical point of view I can se the changes in
 the print colour as a parallell to the changes in nature when we are
 turning into late summer and autumn - but I don't think that the potential
 buyers of my pictures are willing to buy that kind of reasoning. So - is
 there a more resistant and safe printer ink on the market, that one can use
 in Canon printers?

 Jan Hinderson


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[pinhole-discussion] changing colours

2001-08-14 Thread Jan Hinderson
Does anyone know a better alternative than Canons own colurs for their 
printers? I use a Canon BJC 7000 printer with Canon BC-60 Black ink and BC 62 
Photo Color ink. 
I have not had any problems before, but in my last exhibition I hung my pinhole 
colour prints in a greenhouse where they have been exposed to direct sunlight 
all day for two months and upon that high humidity in the nights. And that was 
a bit too tough! In the last weeks of the exhibition the pictures began to lose 
some of the colour, they became paler and turned more to the green. 
The theme for the picuters is garden vegetation and from a philosophical point 
of view I can se the changes in the print colour as a parallell to the changes 
in nature when we are turning into late summer and autumn - but I don't think 
that the potential buyers of my pictures are willing to buy that kind of 
reasoning. 
So - is there a more resistant and safe printer ink on the market, that one can 
use in Canon printers?

Jan Hinderson




[pinhole-discussion] Courses

2001-08-14 Thread taticosta
Hello!
Does anybody know about pinhole courses or studies groups at UK? I'm going to 
London on a trip and I would like to make a pinhole course there! If you know 
any school or arts center when I could fins something, please, write me!
Thanks, Tati.


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