Re: [pinhole-discussion] Interesting Site
Along the same lines, I just finished reading "Vermeer's Camera" by Philip Steadman (Oxford U. Press, 2001). This is an excellent discussion of the topic, as it relates to Vermeer. Anyone on the list interested in the camera obscura, optics, or art in general would probably find it interesting. It is clearly written and technical only to the extent required to make the case (for thoes who like the technical data, it's all available in extensive appendices). The thesis is very quietly but persuasively argued, I think. I have always believed in the idea of Vermeer having used the camera obscura, but there is not a shred of doubt in my mind now. The author successfully uses the geometry of many of the paintings to recreate the rooms they would have been painted in. He shows that these rooms are in many cases identical and that a camera obscura in the position required to paint them would have projected an image on the back wall of the room that is exactly the size of many of the paintings. It's hard to explain, but very interesting. I highly recommend the book. There is a companion Web site, but i can't find the URL at the moment. A search on the author and the obvious words from the title of the book should locate it though. Colin --- Joao Ribeiro wrote: > Hi folks, > > Just came across this site and thought it might > interest us, the > pinholers. > http://www.artandoptics.com/ > It is about David Hockney's theory of artist using > optical instruments > since the 15th century. > Cheers > Joao > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film holder?
In a message dated 12/3/2001 9:24:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, bwphoto4...@aol.com writes: > Any suggestions on the best type of film holder to get? I've seen new ones > on the vendor sites, and used ones of various makes and age on E-bay. There > > also appears to be a wide range of cost associated with these holders. > Suggestions on what to look for? Preferences? > > Maggie > Maggie, you can go to camera shows and ebay and pick up most used double sheet film holders for $5-$25 each...anything in good shape and cheap is the best way to go..i have even used some old wooden ones that were all taped up and they were ok :) Harry http://www.figurefoto.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film holder?
Maggie, I would suggest a polaroid film holder (to test your exposure-and for final pics), and if you are going to use sheet film and load it yourself, go with new holders, such as the Lisco brand. They are inexpensive and reliable. You can also go with readyload sheet film, but it costs more. gary gs...@mindspring.com On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 21:21:24 EST, bwphoto4...@aol.com wrote: >I am asking for a Zero Image 4 x 5 pinhole camera for Christmas - and I know >that I'll need a film holder for it. My experience up until this point has >been 35mm and medium format, and I don't have much knowledge of large format, >so . . . > >Any suggestions on the best type of film holder to get? I've seen new ones >on the vendor sites, and used ones of various makes and age on E-bay. There >also appears to be a wide range of cost associated with these holders. >Suggestions on what to look for? Preferences? > >Maggie > >___ >Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? >unsubscribe or change your account at >http://www.pinholevisions.org/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] film holder?
I am asking for a Zero Image 4 x 5 pinhole camera for Christmas - and I know that I'll need a film holder for it. My experience up until this point has been 35mm and medium format, and I don't have much knowledge of large format, so . . . Any suggestions on the best type of film holder to get? I've seen new ones on the vendor sites, and used ones of various makes and age on E-bay. There also appears to be a wide range of cost associated with these holders. Suggestions on what to look for? Preferences? Maggie
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Interesting Work
I've been a fan of Mr. Fees for qutie some time now. Have you seen his new book? James on 12/1/01 9:30 AM, Kate Hudec at hu...@rcn.com wrote: > How about James Fee? (He should be of major interest to the > alternative process practitioners in the digest.) > > Kate > > PS Leezy - I'm a huge fan Robert ParkeHarrison, too. His use of > digital technology is really inspired. He uses the technology, instead > of having it use him. > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: darkroom doors
actually ours is setup so each turn is just after the opening from the last turn is covered...if you can visualize that... ___ ___I I --I-- (this is why they invented AutoCAD.. 8o) ) andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of G.Penate Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:41 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: darkroom doors > -Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Myron > Gochnauer > As you left the darkroom you went through an ordinary hinged door > with good light seals on all four sides. You then turned 90 degrees > to the right and walked some distance (maybe 15 feet?) along a > corridor, then a U-turn to the left, along another corridor and then > (I think) exited to the right. The corridors -- walls, ceilings and floor > were painted mat black. - Original Message - From: "Andy Schmitt" > That's what we use @ Peters Valley. I didn't suggest it because it takes up > a bunch of space... andy No kidding!, If I turn right 90 degrees and walk 15 feet I think I end up in my neighbors basement! He's a nice guy, he may allow me to use the space, but don't think he'd like me painting his basement mat black, tho!! :-)) That's a good solution but only when space is plentiful. Guillermo ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: darkroom doors
> -Original Message- > From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? > [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Myron > Gochnauer > As you left the darkroom you went through an ordinary hinged door > with good light seals on all four sides. You then turned 90 degrees > to the right and walked some distance (maybe 15 feet?) along a > corridor, then a U-turn to the left, along another corridor and then > (I think) exited to the right. The corridors -- walls, ceilings and floor > were painted mat black. - Original Message - From: "Andy Schmitt" > That's what we use @ Peters Valley. I didn't suggest it because it takes up > a bunch of space... andy No kidding!, If I turn right 90 degrees and walk 15 feet I think I end up in my neighbors basement! He's a nice guy, he may allow me to use the space, but don't think he'd like me painting his basement mat black, tho!! :-)) That's a good solution but only when space is plentiful. Guillermo
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Anyone seen any interesting work lat ely?
> there is a book that came out recently "Book of 101 Books, > The: Seminal Photographic Books of the Twentieth Century." it > is amazing. Also check out "Building A Photographic Library" by D. Clarke Evans and Jean Caslin. Inexpensive and some great suggestions. It's been a bestseller at PhotoEye bookstore www.photoeye.com and is available on amazon.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure of paper negs.
Thanks. I think Zen is the proper approach to very long exposures. The gods seem to know. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] reciprocity failure of paper negs. > Bill, > I don't know if I can give you specifics, but my longest successful exposure > has been 47 days. I tried an exposure in a basement area for ten days and the > result was too faint so i put the date I began the next exposure and kind of > forgot about my camera for a while. When I remembered it, 47 days had passed > and the resulting paper negative wasn't bad. > Rusty > > << Bill Erickson wrote: > I'm planning an image of a dark corner in an old building. The exposure > calculates out to about five days with a paper negative. At what exposure > time does one begin to run into reciprocity failure with paper, and what are > the parameters? >> > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ >
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re: darkroom doors
That's what we use @ Peters Valley. I didn't suggest it because it takes up a bunch of space... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Myron Gochnauer Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 6:34 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: darkroom doors FYI: In the 1970's I visited a photo lab in upstate New York that used a labyrinth door for its darkroom. It worked something like this: As you left the darkroom you went through an ordinary hinged door with good light seals on all four sides. You then turned 90 degrees to the right and walked some distance (maybe 15 feet?) along a corridor, then a U-turn to the left, along another corridor and then (I think) exited to the right. The corridors -- walls, ceilings and floor -- were painted mat black. For film processing the darkroom door was closed, but for printing the inner door could be left open, so people could walk in and out freely. Unfortunately my house is too small --- or we have too much stuff (not cameras, of course) --- for me to build such a labyrinth, but I would dearly love to. I have four dogs who are always on the wrong side of a closed darkroom door. I imagine the same thing happens with kids... Myron ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] Re: darkroom doors
FYI: In the 1970's I visited a photo lab in upstate New York that used a labyrinth door for its darkroom. It worked something like this: As you left the darkroom you went through an ordinary hinged door with good light seals on all four sides. You then turned 90 degrees to the right and walked some distance (maybe 15 feet?) along a corridor, then a U-turn to the left, along another corridor and then (I think) exited to the right. The corridors -- walls, ceilings and floor -- were painted mat black. For film processing the darkroom door was closed, but for printing the inner door could be left open, so people could walk in and out freely. Unfortunately my house is too small --- or we have too much stuff (not cameras, of course) --- for me to build such a labyrinth, but I would dearly love to. I have four dogs who are always on the wrong side of a closed darkroom door. I imagine the same thing happens with kids... Myron
