Re: [pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
I'll second Len's advice on a used D2 - they may be a bit more expensive than other used enlargers but it quite possibly is the last enlarger you will ever buy. Don Leonard Peterson wrote: Shannon Stoney wrote: I am looking for a used enlarger. I looked on ebay and the good ones are going for around $400-$500. I wonder if anybody on this list has a favorite place to buy used reconditioned enlargers? Reply: I've been using an Omega D2 for years with a Zone VI cold light and it's fine. I use it for 35mm to 4x5 enlargements and 8x10 contacts. They are always offered on Ebay. It's a real workhorse with few moving parts that can break. Contact me for more info and advice. Len _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ - Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience
[pinhole-discussion] painting cookie tin cameras
I just developed a negative that I made in a cookie tin camera yesterday. It looks sort of flat; that is , there are no good darks I suspect, just looking at the negative. It looks like it might be fogged all over sort of evenly. I wonder if that might be because the inside of the tin is still a bit shiny. It's as if the shininess of the tin is showing through the black although you can't see any unpainted tin. I gave it one coat of flat black; should I give it another coat? Also, I got rather cheap black enamel. Maybe I should have gotten a slightly better grade. --shannon
[pinhole-discussion] used enlargers
Shannon Stoney wrote: I am looking for a used enlarger. I looked on ebay and the good ones are going for around $400-$500. I wonder if anybody on this list has a favorite place to buy used reconditioned enlargers? Reply: I've been using an Omega D2 for years with a Zone VI cold light and it's fine. I use it for 35mm to 4x5 enlargements and 8x10 contacts. They are always offered on Ebay. It's a real workhorse with few moving parts that can break. Contact me for more info and advice. Len _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
When I made my film cannister camera, I made a separate pinhole from aluminum pie pan stock and affixed it to the inside of the cannister. I don't think that it will work too well to just poke a hole in the plastic (well, for some, this may be what they are looking for, but it just isn't my style). Cheers - george --- Shannon Stoney wrote: > > > Hi, > > it´'s normal if the pinhole is direkt in the plastic of the can. Try a > > greater opening -like your penny- in the film-cannister and put the pinhole > > (from soda-can or each other thin material)in the middle of this greater > > hole. > > This will work great. > > OK. I did this when I made a pinhole camera out of a cookie tin. But why > does it make a difference if the hole is made out of thin metal? Does the > thickness of the plastic make the image smaller? > > --shannon > > > regards, ingo > > - Original Message - > > From: "Shannon Stoney" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:17 AM > > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras > > > > > >> How big is the image supposed to be with the film canister cameras? I > > made > >> an exposure today and it's about the size of a penny. Is that normal? > >> > >> --shannon > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > >> Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > >> Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > >> unsubscribe or change your account at > >> http://www.???/discussion/ > > > > > > ___ > > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.???/discussion/ > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ = Handmade Photographic Images http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
> > What size negatives do you want to do and where are you located? > andy > I was using the film cannisters to make 35mm negatives, but usually I make 4x5 negatives with a regular view camera. Yesterday I made a 4x5 negative with a cookie tin pinhole camera, but I haven't developed it yet. I am fixing to order some 8x10 film. I make cyanotypes mostly. I am in middle TN. I printed the first film canister negative in cyanotype and it didn't make much of an image. It was very faint. Maybe I overexposed it. --shannon
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
Yes, the thickness of the plastic makes the image much smaller. regards, ingo - Original Message - From: "Shannon Stoney" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras > Hi, > it´'s normal if the pinhole is direkt in the plastic of the can. Try a > greater opening -like your penny- in the film-cannister and put the pinhole > (from soda-can or each other thin material)in the middle of this greater > hole. > This will work great. OK. I did this when I made a pinhole camera out of a cookie tin. But why does it make a difference if the hole is made out of thin metal? Does the thickness of the plastic make the image smaller? --shannon > regards, ingo > - Original Message - > From: "Shannon Stoney" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:17 AM > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras > > >> How big is the image supposed to be with the film canister cameras? I > made >> an exposure today and it's about the size of a penny. Is that normal? >> >> --shannon >> >> >> ___ >> Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML >> Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >> Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? >> unsubscribe or change your account at >> http://www.???/discussion/ > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Shannon Stoney wrote: [...] > OK. I did this when I made a pinhole camera out of a cookie tin. But why > does it make a difference if the hole is made out of thin metal? Does the > thickness of the plastic make the image smaller? Yes. It's like looking through a straw. The opening closest to you does, in fact, see 180 degrees. But most of what it is seeing ends up being the inside of a tube, which is often devoid of texture and contrast, and being opaque, doesn't render photographically. This vs. the non-tube world, which comes through the aperture on the other end, which is probably what you want to emphasize. :) -- Scott Sellers mailto:scottsell...@mindspring.com
RE: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
What size negatives do you want to do and where are you located? andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Shannon Stoney Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:36 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras > > --- Shannon Stoney wrote: >> How big is the image supposed to be with the film canister cameras? I made >> an exposure today and it's about the size of a penny. Is that normal? > > Well, it will be the size of your film cannister. Of course, you can enlarge > it instead of contact printing it, so you can determine its final size. Do you mean, the image diameter will be the same as the diameter of the film cannister? I am looking for a used enlarger. I looked on ebay and the good ones are going for around $400-$500. I wonder if anybody on this list has a favorite place to buy used reconditioned enlargers? --shannon > > Cheers - > > george > > = > Handmade Photographic Images > http://GLSmyth.com > DRiP Investing > http://DRiPInvesting.org > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
Shannon Stoney wrote: > >> Hi, >> it´'s normal if the pinhole is direkt in the plastic of the can. Try a >> greater opening -like your penny- in the film-cannister and put the pinhole >> (from soda-can or each other thin material)in the middle of this greater >> hole. >> This will work great. > >OK. I did this when I made a pinhole camera out of a cookie tin. But why >does it make a difference if the hole is made out of thin metal? Does the >thickness of the plastic make the image smaller? > Hi Shannon, that's exactly right, the thickness of the plastic does make the image smaller, plus, you will get smaller and better holes into soda-cans. The thinner the material, the hole is in, the lager your picture will be in diameter. Take a look at my page at http://www.pinhole.q-fladen.de All pictures on there were taken with film canisters. Soeren >--shannon > >> regards, ingo >> - Original Message - >> From: "Shannon Stoney" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:17 AM >> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras >> >> >>> How big is the image supposed to be with the film canister cameras? I >> made >>> an exposure today and it's about the size of a penny. Is that normal? >>> >>> --shannon >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML >>> Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >>> Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? >>> unsubscribe or change your account at >>> http://www.???/discussion/ >> >> >> ___ >> Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML >> Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >> Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? >> unsubscribe or change your account at >> http://www.???/discussion/ > >___ >Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML >Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? >unsubscribe or change your account at >http://www.???/discussion/ -- --- http://www.cityweb.de
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
> Hi, > it´'s normal if the pinhole is direkt in the plastic of the can. Try a > greater opening -like your penny- in the film-cannister and put the pinhole > (from soda-can or each other thin material)in the middle of this greater > hole. > This will work great. OK. I did this when I made a pinhole camera out of a cookie tin. But why does it make a difference if the hole is made out of thin metal? Does the thickness of the plastic make the image smaller? --shannon > regards, ingo > - Original Message - > From: "Shannon Stoney" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:17 AM > Subject: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras > > >> How big is the image supposed to be with the film canister cameras? I > made >> an exposure today and it's about the size of a penny. Is that normal? >> >> --shannon >> >> >> ___ >> Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML >> Pinhole-Discussion mailing list >> Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? >> unsubscribe or change your account at >> http://www.???/discussion/ > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
> > --- Shannon Stoney wrote: >> How big is the image supposed to be with the film canister cameras? I made >> an exposure today and it's about the size of a penny. Is that normal? > > Well, it will be the size of your film cannister. Of course, you can enlarge > it instead of contact printing it, so you can determine its final size. Do you mean, the image diameter will be the same as the diameter of the film cannister? I am looking for a used enlarger. I looked on ebay and the good ones are going for around $400-$500. I wonder if anybody on this list has a favorite place to buy used reconditioned enlargers? --shannon > > Cheers - > > george > > = > Handmade Photographic Images > http://GLSmyth.com > DRiP Investing > http://DRiPInvesting.org > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
Hi, it´'s normal if the pinhole is direkt in the plastic of the can. Try a greater opening -like your penny- in the film-cannister and put the pinhole (from soda-can or each other thin material)in the middle of this greater hole. This will work great. regards, ingo - Original Message - From: "Shannon Stoney" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:17 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras > How big is the image supposed to be with the film canister cameras? I made > an exposure today and it's about the size of a penny. Is that normal? > > --shannon > > > ___ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras
--- Shannon Stoney wrote: > How big is the image supposed to be with the film canister cameras? I made > an exposure today and it's about the size of a penny. Is that normal? Well, it will be the size of your film cannister. Of course, you can enlarge it instead of contact printing it, so you can determine its final size. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com
