Re: [pinhole-discussion] Paper Negative Questions

2002-06-21 Thread Andy D Duncan
I have read that the ISO of paper is 6.


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Paper Negative Questions

2002-06-21 Thread William Erickson
Oops. I didn't see that this was a pinhole discussion item. the e-mail question 
was because I thought my son david had changed his address. 
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  From: David 
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  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:44 AM
  Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Paper Negative Questions


  Hi,

  I have a couple of questions concerning paper negatives:

  1.What brand and type of paper makes the best paper negatives?  I have 
heard that the Kodak logo on the back will show up in prints made from paper 
negatives.

  2.What is the ISO rating of various papers?

  Any other comments or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

  Thanks, 
  David
  d...@ix.netcom.com



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Paper Negative Questions

2002-06-21 Thread William Erickson
Ilford multigrade is best. If you are going to use paper flat, then the surface 
doesn't matter. if you are going to curve the paper, as around the inside of a 
can, use the flattest surface you can get. I think peal is as dull as Iolford 
gets. The usual rule of thumb for any paper is ISo of 5 or 6. the other thing 
about paper negatives is that the results tend to be very contrasty. If you 
don't like that, use a yellow filter and double the exposure time. Is the new 
e-mail address the ofical one?   
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  From: David 
  To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? 
  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:44 AM
  Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Paper Negative Questions


  Hi,

  I have a couple of questions concerning paper negatives:

  1.What brand and type of paper makes the best paper negatives?  I have 
heard that the Kodak logo on the back will show up in prints made from paper 
negatives.

  2.What is the ISO rating of various papers?

  Any other comments or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

  Thanks, 
  David
  d...@ix.netcom.com



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Paper Negative Questions

2002-06-21 Thread George L Smyth
--- David  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a couple of questions concerning paper negatives:
> 
> 1.What brand and type of paper makes the best paper negatives?  I have
> heard that the Kodak logo on the back will show up in prints made from paper
> negatives.

I've heard this too, but when I tried it I saw no logo.  I would recommend
testing.

> 2.What is the ISO rating of various papers?

Generally speaking, you'll want to start your testing at somewhere around EI 2.

Cheers -

george

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[pinhole-discussion] Paper Negative Questions

2002-06-21 Thread David
Hi,

I have a couple of questions concerning paper negatives:

1.What brand and type of paper makes the best paper negatives?  I have 
heard that the Kodak logo on the back will show up in prints made from paper 
negatives.

2.What is the ISO rating of various papers?

Any other comments or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, 
David
d...@ix.netcom.com



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cannon A-1 Pinhole

2002-06-21 Thread Colin Talcroft
Yes, I too was going to reply to the question about
the Canon A-1 with a word about the Olympus OM-2. I'm
glad someone mentioned this. I have a vague
recollection of when I bought my OM-2--the only SLR I
have ever owned--reading in the manual the section
that explained that the auto exposure meter continues
to read light from the film plane after the shutter
has opened and will end the exposure or extend it as
appropriate if light conditions change after the
shutter has been depressed.

I am not aware of many other (any other?) cameras that
do this. I am not even sure that many other Olympus
cameras did this. I'm pretty sure the OM-1 does not.
OM-2 bodies are often available used. They are fairly
pricey, however. They are more expensive now than when
they were new. I remember in Japan a body in good used
condition was usually about 35,000 yen, just under
$300 today. I think mine was about $200 when new in
1977. No doubt they appear on E-bay, but I don't know.

Anyway, I regularly use mine as a pinhole camera with
a body cap pinhole. I've found that outdoors in bright
light with ASA 1600 film (or even 400) you can use it
handheld pretty easily. It mounts on a tripod
(naturally!) for indoor work. A fair number of the
pinhole photos on my pinhole site were done this way.
(http://www.sonic.net/~talcroft/PinholeSite/).

The other end of the light spectrum would be the nudes
on the same site, which  were done with the same body
cap on ASA 100 film indoors using a tripod. It's been
a while, but I remember the metered exposure through
the pinhole (a laser-drilled hole of about f=143) was
generally 8-30 seconds in the low light "studio"
conditions (at night with one, sometimes two 300W
bulbs). I remember the result usually was a gross
underexposure, so in very low light situations I'm not
sure the OM-2 meter alone can be relied on to do
anything special that is useful for pinhole. It
remains a beautiful camera, nevertheless.

Colin

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] taking a vacation

2002-06-21 Thread Guy Glorieux
Happy vacation, Jim!
Guy
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cannon A-1 Pinhole

2002-06-21 Thread D Hill

 This is dependant on the camera manufacture, cameras such as the blessed 
Olympus OM2 have an amazing Off The Film metering.  You can use a dirty glass 
plate in place of a lens and you will have an accurate exposure via aperture 
priority since it measures the amount of light which hits the film - very cool. 
 
DOn  
  Thom Mitchell  wrote: I would recommend shutter 
priority since exposures tend towards seconds
rather than fractions of seconds. Also Aperture Priority wouldn't reflect
the correct f/stop since the body cap isn't an aperture ring.
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From: "gregg b. mc neill" 
To: 

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Cannon A-1 Pinhole


> If I'm setting my analog Cannon A-1 to Aperture Priority, with the
pinhole
> bodycap, will the exposure that the camera gives me reflect any of the
> reciprocity adjustments needed to porperly expose the image?
>
> Also is there any reciprocity concerns in digital?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> gregg mc neill
>
>
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cannon A-1 Pinhole

2002-06-21 Thread D Hill

 Aperture priority will work, and a quick and easy method to deal with any 
reciprocity is to do a few things, first, half your ASA rating on your camera 
and shoot merrily while you smile.  Additionally, If you are shooting B&W you 
can use a more efficient or compensating developer in the processing.  Rodinal 
at a dilution of 1:100 will deliver superb negatives for pinhole, as its 
compensating action keeps the highlights from being blown out.  Some will scoff 
and say that Rodinal is not a developer for film speeds above 100 ASA, I 
heartlily disagree.  My most luminous negatives have been made with Neopan 400 
developed in Rodinal at 1:100.  
Acufine and Diafine are two examples of efficient developers for underexposed 
or weak negatives.  Timing is more critical in the development stage, in the 
case of Acufine too much development will severely block up your negatives.
If you are really worried about reciprocity, try a chromogenic film, say Ilford 
XP2 super and shoot it aperture priority set at ASA 100.  I have tried this 
with zoneplate negatives on my nikon and the images were superb!  All that and 
I could run it through the local 1-hour.
Don
  William Erickson  wrote: I doubt the aperture 
priority will work proerly with the pinhole, if I
understand you correctly. there doesn't seem to be any reciprocity failure
within the 30 second exposure time limits. I haven't tried longer.
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To: 

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 1:40 PM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Cannon A-1 Pinhole


> If I'm setting my analog Cannon A-1 to Aperture Priority, with the
pinhole
> bodycap, will the exposure that the camera gives me reflect any of the
> reciprocity adjustments needed to porperly expose the image?
>
> Also is there any reciprocity concerns in digital?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> gregg mc neill
>
>
>
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