Re: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative

2002-06-25 Thread John Yeo
That was my experience, no logo on the final print.

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replies.

John

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From: George L Smyth glsm...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative


 Has anyone ever confirmed that the logo on the back affects the image?  As
 previously stated, when I tried a Kodak paper (it was probably
Polycontrast
 III) I saw no logo when I contact-printed the negative.

 Cheers -

 george






RE: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative

2002-06-25 Thread Scott Guthrie
The logo on Kodak paper makes it unsuitable for using as a negative, in my 
experience, which is to bad because the paper is nice and I would love to 
suppport an American company.


Mitch


From: George L Smyth glsm...@yahoo.com
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To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:10:39 -0700 (PDT)

Has anyone ever confirmed that the logo on the back affects the image?  As
previously stated, when I tried a Kodak paper (it was probably Polycontrast
III) I saw no logo when I contact-printed the negative.

Cheers -

george



--- D Hill zopp...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Another note on papers.  I used to use Ilford, but I got cranky at the 
price
 one day so I picked up a box of Mitsubishi Gekko Matte, tried it and 
liked it

 - and It's also great for proofs.  It is a wonderful matte surface VC RC
 paper, and is quite inexpensive at about $33 for 100 - 8x10.  It does 
not
 have the logo imprinted on the back.  You can get the stuff through 
Freestyle

 if you want to try it.  However, if all of us run out to freestyle to
 purchase the great inexpensive paper - they just might play the kodak 
game

 and charge up the price.  Ah, the joys of photography.
 Don
   Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net wrote: confirmed...Ilford is logo
 free...
 andy

 -Original Message-
 From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???
 [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James
 Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 7:40 PM
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative


 on paper negatives: seagull oriental brand papers (confirmed with my own
 eyes) and forte brand (as told by company representative) do not have 
logos.
 i've heard that ilford is also logo free. ISO is between 6 and 2. i've 
been
 using film developer for about 5-10 minutes, and this reduces the 
contrast
 somewhat. you might take a took at this url, the history and how to of 
paper

 negatives, including info on william mortenson's special techniques:

 http://www.photography.about.com/library/weekly/aa051302a.htm


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Kodak Revisions to films.......

2002-06-25 Thread George L Smyth
I guess it hasn't been improved in ten years, and still won't be ten years from
now. g

Cheers -

george



--- D Hill zopp...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Well friends, it's happening again...  I don't want to be a Fuji fanatic -
 preferably an evangelist.  If you want a good substitution for good-ole
 Tri-X, get a can of Fuji Neopan 400.  Still the same film it was 10 years
 ago, and still the same film 10 years from now.
 Thanks for the info Andy,
 Don
   Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net wrote: Kodak Revisions: Due to a change
 in film base, Kodak has announced that all
 TMax, Plus-X and Tri-X films are to be rereleased with revised names and
 development times. The new films are replacing the old ones as stock runs
 out, and Kodak anticipates the changeover taking place between now and the
 end of the year. New Tri-X data has yet to be published, but some times are
 available for the other films. Existing development times differ only
 marginally from the new times, so all current development data remains
 perfectly usable as starting points. Click here for further information and
 to identify which version of the film you are using.
 http://www.digitaltruth.com/chart/tables/kodaklookup.html
 
 Thought you might like to know...
 
 regards
 Andy Schmitt
 
 Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons
 All opinions expressed are mine...
 Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid
 www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose
 Head of Photography, Paters Valley Craft Center
 
 
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative

2002-06-25 Thread George L Smyth
Has anyone ever confirmed that the logo on the back affects the image?  As
previously stated, when I tried a Kodak paper (it was probably Polycontrast
III) I saw no logo when I contact-printed the negative.

Cheers -

george



--- D Hill zopp...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Another note on papers.  I used to use Ilford, but I got cranky at the price
 one day so I picked up a box of Mitsubishi Gekko Matte, tried it and liked it
 - and It's also great for proofs.  It is a wonderful matte surface VC RC
 paper, and is quite inexpensive at about $33 for 100 - 8x10.  It does not
 have the logo imprinted on the back.  You can get the stuff through Freestyle
 if you want to try it.  However, if all of us run out to freestyle to
 purchase the great inexpensive paper - they just might play the kodak game
 and charge up the price.  Ah, the joys of photography.
 Don
   Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net wrote: confirmed...Ilford is logo
 free...
 andy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???
 [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James
 Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 7:40 PM
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative
 
 
 on paper negatives: seagull oriental brand papers (confirmed with my own
 eyes) and forte brand (as told by company representative) do not have logos.
 i've heard that ilford is also logo free. ISO is between 6 and 2. i've been
 using film developer for about 5-10 minutes, and this reduces the contrast
 somewhat. you might take a took at this url, the history and how to of paper
 negatives, including info on william mortenson's special techniques:
 
 http://www.photography.about.com/library/weekly/aa051302a.htm
 
 
 --
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 http://consumptive.org
 
 
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Kodak Revisions to films.......

2002-06-25 Thread D Hill

 Well friends, it's happening again...  I don't want to be a Fuji fanatic - 
preferably an evangelist.  If you want a good substitution for good-ole Tri-X, 
get a can of Fuji Neopan 400.  Still the same film it was 10 years ago, and 
still the same film 10 years from now.
Thanks for the info Andy,
Don
  Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net wrote: Kodak Revisions: Due to a change 
in film base, Kodak has announced that all
TMax, Plus-X and Tri-X films are to be rereleased with revised names and
development times. The new films are replacing the old ones as stock runs
out, and Kodak anticipates the changeover taking place between now and the
end of the year. New Tri-X data has yet to be published, but some times are
available for the other films. Existing development times differ only
marginally from the new times, so all current development data remains
perfectly usable as starting points. Click here for further information and
to identify which version of the film you are using.
http://www.digitaltruth.com/chart/tables/kodaklookup.html

Thought you might like to know...

regards
Andy Schmitt

Computerist, Photographer, Slayer of Dragons
All opinions expressed are mine...
Unless otherwise stated or REALLY stupid
www.aandy.org - not non-profit on purpose
Head of Photography, Paters Valley Craft Center


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cannon A-1 Pinhole

2002-06-25 Thread Colin Talcroft
I think the perhaps unusual thing about the OM-2 is
that it ALWAYS does the off-the-film thing, adjusting
exposure during the exposure if the light changes. 

Colin

--- Derek Clarke dere...@cix.co.uk wrote:
 Canon use off-the-film flash metering in TTL mode.
 These days they offer 
 E-TTL which use preflash and the main body meter
 sensors, but for every 
 body but a digital one you can set the flash to TTL
 mode manually.


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