[pinhole-discussion] Why is paper contrasty?

2002-07-11 Thread William Erickson
I've thought this through but haven't completely verified it yet, but I
wanted to see what others reaction is. BW paper used as a negative is said
to be contrasty. What does this mean? BW paper has a sensitivity range of
a little more than four stops for any given exposure. Burning and dodging
increase tonal range by shortening or lengthening the exposure. If you meter
a scene that has an eight stop tonal range and give the average exposure for
the scene using a paper negative, you risk having the highlights blown out
because they are more than two stops above average, and shadows go black
because they are more than two stops below average. If the scene has a tonal
range of only four or five stops, your negative won't be contrasty because
all the tones lie within the range of the paper. What, then, to do in
sunshiney scenes, for instance, where the tonal range might be eight or nine
stops? If you place the highlight tones of the main object of your
composition about two stops above average, you will get good tonality in
important spots, no blown out highlights, even though you may get lots of
black shadows. The implication is, much shorter exposure times (read higher
ISO) in bright scenes than in shadowiy scenes (effctively lower ISO), using
the same paper. My first tests suggest that a good ISO for Ilford multigrade
in bright sunlight might be as high as 15, while 5 works well in shaded
scenes. Any comments?





[pinhole-discussion] Long exposures and moving flowers and trees

2002-07-11 Thread Leonard Peterson
Remember that just because an exposure is long doesn't mean you cannot 
interrupt it.  I learned with large format pictures at dust, that you can 
cover the lens (easier on a pinhole) and continue the exposure when things 
stop moving.  Tree branches, flowers and plants (ferns, etc.) will return to 
thier original position.  Of course if the pesky wind is continuous then the 
blurred photo becomes artsy, right?



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] fogging in half-cylinder cameras.

2002-07-11 Thread William Erickson
Thanks.
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From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net
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Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] fogging in half-cylinder cameras.


 The regular matte paper should solve it. Also make sure the back of the
 metal that you made the PH out of is covered. Glossy paper is a nightmare
in
 cylindrical cameras
 andy

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 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] fogging in half-cylinder cameras.


 I have made a half cylinder camera for 8x10 negatives. I find that I have
 far more trouble with fogging due to interior reflection than I have ever
 seen with cylindrical cameras where the negative takes up only the back
half
 of the cylinder. In this camera, the angle of view approaches 180 degrees,
 with the edges of the neg butted right up against the front of the camera.
I
 haven't had fully matte paper to use, and haven't tried film yet, but I
 will. Has anyone used the polymax fine art paper that is double matte? I
 sent for some. has anyone tried some sort of a baffle system that might
 quench some of the random bouncing around of light?



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] close up flower shots

2002-07-11 Thread Jeffery Atkins


I just uploaded some close up pinhole images from a series that I have
been working on for a little while now.  If you are interested plese check
them out at:


Really nice abstractions. Would you mind sharing camera and film info?





Re: [pinhole-discussion] close up flower shots

2002-07-11 Thread William Erickson
Mysterious!
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From: Tim Rawling pin_...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:56 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] close up flower shots


 Hi all,

 I just uploaded some close up pinhole images from a series that I have
 been working on for a little while now.  If you are interested plese check
 them out at:


http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?pic=timr_pin
tryp.jpg

 (paste the two lines together if they have wrapped)

 Cheers,

 Tim R

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RE: [pinhole-discussion] close up flower shots

2002-07-11 Thread Andy Schmitt
wonderful...nice lighting too
thanks
andy

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Subject: [pinhole-discussion] close up flower shots


Hi all,

I just uploaded some close up pinhole images from a series that I have
been working on for a little while now.  If you are interested plese check
them out at:

http://www.???/discussion/upload/gallery2002.php?pic=timr_pin
tryp.jpg

(paste the two lines together if they have wrapped)

Cheers,

Tim R

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] lack of pinhole images on photosig

2002-07-11 Thread Jeffery Atkins


pinholeren...@netscape.net wrote:


I have been looking at the photo site PHOTOSIG for pinhole images  can find only a 
few.I would love to see more pinhole  zoneplate images represented on the site.I would 
like to know if any of the people on the list post images on the site.lets get some more 
exposure for a great camera  process.
chip renner


I have to admit I had never looked at this site before. It looks like there are 
less than a dozen pinholes, and tens of thousands  of every thing else. I'm 
going to upload some pinholes and see what the response is like.