RE: [pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films

2002-11-15 Thread António Vieira
I use almost only NPH 400. I like the colors (not vivid, enhanced ot whatever) 
and specially the latitude of the exposition. It is almost certain that we get 
something from the image no matter the exposition-error is.

my site: http://www.livinginabox.net

(some of the images were changed with desaturation of color channels)

António Vieira


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Bell [mailto:veracity...@earthlink.net]
 Sent: Domingo, 27 de Outubro de 2002 3:29
 To: Pinhole List
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films
 
 
 Hey Everyone,
 
 so after almost a year on this list, i finally made a pinhole 
 camera. it
 was absolutely necessary for this project i am doing 
 (authentic space), and
 so i justified taking up schoolwork time to make it (the 
 project is for
 school, so it works out ok). so i have a question. what color 
 films does
 everyone use? i'm presently using fuji NPH, as i've got a 
 bunch of it and
 i've been using it in my holga. oh, i should mention the 
 pinhole camera i
 made is a pinholga. so i went to fuji's website to check out the
 reciprocity chart, and they say 'exposure of longer than 16 
 seconds is not
 recommended'. so there was no chart, and i'm kind of flying 
 blind, which is
 kind of fun, but it makes me think there might be a better 
 film for me to
 be using.
 
 so what films do you all use, color-wise, for pinhole photographs?
 
 oh yeah, one more question, a friend of mine was showing me his color
 pinhole shots, and there was a slight magenta shift on the 
 edges of the
 image, is there any way to correct this?
 
 thanks,
 
 --- Steve Bell
 --- veracity...@earthlink.net
 --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective /
 http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection
 --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be
 achieved within the capitalist structure, is
  an example of how capitalism can, almost without a 
 conscious effort,
 deceive those whom it oppresses...So
  effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of
 optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly
  hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the 
 varieties of
 youthful frustration, has been ignored
  and softened.  --Michael Lydon
 
 
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films

2002-10-27 Thread Steve Bell
Thanks for the advice.

in regards to having a lot of the NPH, i use that with my regular holga
anyway, so i haven't really commited it, so to speak, to the pinhole holga.
i am certainly not attempting to emulate ansel adams. i will be doing my
own printing, as i'm presently taking a color photo class. i was
recommended to use NPL, so maybe i'll try that. i plan on doing some night
color pinhole work, as i feel like this project i'm working on will call
for such.

in regards to my friends work, he printed them himself. they are something
like 16x20 prints, so the color shift at the edges is very apparent. i
don't plan on printing so large, possibly only up to 11x14, so maybe it
won't be so apparent.

i'll post my results when i work everything out.

thanks,

Steve


 [Original Message]
 From: Michael Healy mjhe...@kcnet.com
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
  Date: 10/27/2002 1:34:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films

 Steve, if you've got that much NPH, why not just shoot some. See what
 happens. You've committed yourself to a camera that runs as far from
 high-end, high quality images as you can get. So push that. Just shoot the
 stuff.
 
 I have not shot NPH, and I haven't shot any color at all in pinhole. All
my
 pinhole work has been in bw. But I have done color night work. My films
 were NPL,  NPS, Reala, all exposed for 10-15 minutes or even more. Results
 can be gorgeous, even with 10 and 15 minute exposures. I've even used,
very
 long exposures. Those results were weird, and also pretty cool. With night
 work, you do a lot of bracketing anyhow, so one is going to turn out.
Always
 works that way. It doesn't necessarily look like what you plan, but again,
 if you're trying to emulate Ansel Adams, pinhole is not exactly your best
 choice of medium. I would just try it, bracket, then try it again. And
 either scan yourself or do your own printing. I wouldn't judge the results
 by the lab's prints.
 
 Your friend's problem is hard to address. Are the images from negs? What
 film, and what conditions? Who printed them, a one-hour shop? One thing
 about printing your own color is that you can correct (or manipulate) the
 color locally, using small color-correcting filters like burning/dodging
 tools. Labs can do that too, but it will cost you, and it's hard to convey
 explicit instructions from the front desk. Sounds like your friend got a
 straight print. That sort of thing can be altered in all kinds of ways in
 the printing process.
 
 Mike Healy
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Bell
 To: Pinhole List
 Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:28 PM
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films
 
 
 Hey Everyone,
 
 so after almost a year on this list, i finally made a pinhole camera. it
 was absolutely necessary for this project i am doing (authentic space),
and
 so i justified taking up schoolwork time to make it (the project is for
 school, so it works out ok). so i have a question. what color films does
 everyone use? i'm presently using fuji NPH, as i've got a bunch of it and
 i've been using it in my holga. oh, i should mention the pinhole camera i
 made is a pinholga. so i went to fuji's website to check out the
 reciprocity chart, and they say 'exposure of longer than 16 seconds is not
 recommended'. so there was no chart, and i'm kind of flying blind, which
is
 kind of fun, but it makes me think there might be a better film for me to
 be using.
 
 so what films do you all use, color-wise, for pinhole photographs?
 
 oh yeah, one more question, a friend of mine was showing me his color
 pinhole shots, and there was a slight magenta shift on the edges of the
 image, is there any way to correct this?
 
 thanks,
 
 --- Steve Bell
 --- veracity...@earthlink.net
 --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective /
 http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection
 --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be
 achieved within the capitalist structure, is
  an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort,
 deceive those whom it oppresses...So
  effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of
 optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly
  hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of
 youthful frustration, has been ignored
  and softened.  --Michael Lydon
 
 
 
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--- Steve Bell
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http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films (correction)

2002-10-27 Thread Michael Healy
Correction: I meant that I've even used Velvia, very long exposures...

- Original Message -
From: Michael Healy
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films

I've even used, very long exposures. Those results were weird, and also
pretty cool. With night
work, you do a lot of bracketing anyhow, so one is going to turn out




[pinhole-discussion] Color 120 format films

2002-10-27 Thread Steve Bell
Hey Everyone,

so after almost a year on this list, i finally made a pinhole camera. it
was absolutely necessary for this project i am doing (authentic space), and
so i justified taking up schoolwork time to make it (the project is for
school, so it works out ok). so i have a question. what color films does
everyone use? i'm presently using fuji NPH, as i've got a bunch of it and
i've been using it in my holga. oh, i should mention the pinhole camera i
made is a pinholga. so i went to fuji's website to check out the
reciprocity chart, and they say 'exposure of longer than 16 seconds is not
recommended'. so there was no chart, and i'm kind of flying blind, which is
kind of fun, but it makes me think there might be a better film for me to
be using.

so what films do you all use, color-wise, for pinhole photographs?

oh yeah, one more question, a friend of mine was showing me his color
pinhole shots, and there was a slight magenta shift on the edges of the
image, is there any way to correct this?

thanks,

--- Steve Bell
--- veracity...@earthlink.net
--- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective /
http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection
--- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be
achieved within the capitalist structure, is
 an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort,
deceive those whom it oppresses...So
 effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of
optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly
 hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of
youthful frustration, has been ignored
 and softened.  --Michael Lydon