RE: [pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning

2001-02-26 Thread Jessica Lysons
I've heard that http://www.scantips.com/ has some great info.  I have to
admit that I haven't had a chance to pour through it myself.  Let us all
know if you find it helpful.  

I've also heard that SilverFast makes a big difference.  It's a bit pricey.
www.silverfast.com

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From: Jeff Dilcher [mailto:dilc...@cueva.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 10:35 AM
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Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning


Does anyone know any good resources and/or tips
for scanning black and white film?  A while back
I purchased a fairly decent scanner, (microtek 
scanmaker 4), which has trays for scanning film.

I have been trying to scan 4x5 BW negatives, but
seem to be having miserable results- way to much
contrast and little usable shadow detail.

If anyone has any good sources or internet sites
that have to do with scanning film and/or Photoshop
use, I would appreciate it!



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RE: [pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning

2001-02-26 Thread Gregg Kemp
Colin, I use a Microtek Scanmaker 4 also and have been completely satisfied 
with 4x5 negatives and transparencies from pinhole.  But my 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 have 
been pretty disappointing (for printing up to 8 x 8).  Have you had any luck 
scanning and printing 2 1/4 neg/pos film?

Gregg  

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 From: Colin Talcroft [mailto:ctalcr...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 12:21 PM
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning
 
 
 Hi
 
 I have a Microtek Scanmaker 4 scanner as well and have
 been quite pleased with my results scanning BW
 negatives. The trick seems to be to scan them as color
 POSITIVES (the setting  is called positive
 transparencies, not color negatives and then to
 invert them. Microtek in Japan suggested this to me
 when I was frustrated and disappointed with my
 results, and really works. Makes a world of
 difference.
 
 Most of the later material on my pinhole site (you can
 ue the URL below if interested) was done this way
 (some of the earlier stuff was done with a Minolta
 Quickscan 35, which gave very nice results, but was
 limited to 35mm). Underexposed negatives give this and
 any scanner their toughest time, but with most
 negatives I have been quite pleased. Most of the stuff
 on the site is 4x6.5CM negatives. Obviously, the
 bigger the better, but quite a few of these are 35mm
 as well.
 
 http://www.sonic.net/~talcroft/PinholeSite/
 
 Colin
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning

2001-02-25 Thread jamesromeo
on 2/25/01 11:46 AM, William Erickson at erick...@ic.mankato.mn.us wrote:

 I second the request. I have been using a polaroid sprintscan 45 and scanning
 BW negatives as color. It really seems to demand quite a flat negtative to
 capture what is in the negative. Also, a negative scanner doesn't handle
 underexposed negatives at all well. With some images I've made a print and
 then scanned that because the negative scanner gave no usable results. -
 Original Message - From: Jeff Dilcher dilc...@cueva.com To:
 pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 9:35 AM
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning
 
 

Books that might be of help.
The digital Darkroom Black and White Techniques using Photoshop  by George
Schaub very good

The Photoshop Grayscale Book by Jim Rich good

The books are on black and white which is great most books do no realy cover
b@w
I have a Umax Astra 2200 ad a canon printer very cheap not top of the line.
I am very new to digital and what I have ben geting is much better than I
thought some very good prints.

Allso I have ben making enlarged paper digital negs and than making Vandyke
prints drom the paper neg. I got some very good vandyke prints.
One the problems I have is two thing.
I do not have a full photoshop and I have a lot to learn.
The book Making digital Negatives for contact Printing by Dan Burkholder
this has help me a lot in making the paper negs. Again my problem is the
lack of full photoshop.
James

  




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning

2001-02-25 Thread Colin Talcroft
Sorry, forget one thing. 

Microtek also told me that the black liners for lining
up negatives that come with the Scanmaker 4 are for
neatness only. They save you the trouble of rotating
negatives in photoshop if you get them crooked, but
they say they make no difference to the quality of the
scan. I just stick the negatives directly on the
glass. I have had no problems with damaged negatives
or getting Newton rings in the scans (you do have to
be careful, of course). 

The flatter the negative, the better--naturally. This
is another reason  I prefer T-Max films to many
others, The film base is unusually thick and strong.
They curl very little if dried hanging with a weight
(which is normal I think). I like Agfa and Ilford
films and some of the Fuji BW films a lot ,but they
curl terribly in my experience--epecially the Agfa
films.

Colin

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning

2001-02-25 Thread William Erickson
I second the request. I have been using a polaroid sprintscan 45 and
scanning BW negatives as color. It really seems to demand quite a flat
negtative to capture what is in the negative. Also, a negative scanner
doesn't handle underexposed negatives at all well. With some images I've
made a print and then scanned that because the negative scanner gave no
usable results.
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Dilcher dilc...@cueva.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 9:35 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning


 Does anyone know any good resources and/or tips
 for scanning black and white film?  A while back
 I purchased a fairly decent scanner, (microtek
 scanmaker 4), which has trays for scanning film.

 I have been trying to scan 4x5 BW negatives, but
 seem to be having miserable results- way to much
 contrast and little usable shadow detail.

 If anyone has any good sources or internet sites
 that have to do with scanning film and/or Photoshop
 use, I would appreciate it!



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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning

2001-02-25 Thread Thomas Harvey

You should take a close look at VueScan at

http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html

VueScan is a great $40 program.  Originally developed for film 
scanners, it now works with flatbed scanners as well, including 
Microtek.  You can download a try before you buy.


With my Nikon LS-30/Coolscan III, VueScan does a much better job than 
NikonScan.


If you are using SilverFast, VueScan may not be an improvement.

The VueScan website also has links to some scanning tip sites.

Tom



Does anyone know any good resources and/or tips
for scanning black and white film?  A while back
I purchased a fairly decent scanner, (microtek
scanmaker 4), which has trays for scanning film.

I have been trying to scan 4x5 BW negatives, but
seem to be having miserable results- way to much
contrast and little usable shadow detail.

If anyone has any good sources or internet sites
that have to do with scanning film and/or Photoshop
use, I would appreciate it!



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[pinhole-discussion] Need help with BW film scanning

2001-02-25 Thread Jeff Dilcher
Does anyone know any good resources and/or tips
for scanning black and white film?  A while back
I purchased a fairly decent scanner, (microtek 
scanmaker 4), which has trays for scanning film.

I have been trying to scan 4x5 BW negatives, but
seem to be having miserable results- way to much
contrast and little usable shadow detail.

If anyone has any good sources or internet sites
that have to do with scanning film and/or Photoshop
use, I would appreciate it!