Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
"The New Moon was further darkened by an incredibly rare simultaneous eclipse of the sun and the moon." We get cabin fever this time of year, too! :-) Jim
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
Pinholing without songs? ...without music? ...how can one have art without music? There is music everywhere, from the brook to the sky. andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Jean Daubas Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:14 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare Guy, Excellent !!! (en français dans le texte...) "Pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire compliqué ?" "Why do it simple when you can do it complicated ?" Sorry for everybody : I am not quite sure of this word- to- word translation of this old french idiomatic sentence ! Maybe someone can give me the english/american equivalent for it. Let's go pinholing with or without maths, PDA, songs... but surely with our open eyes, sensible heart, some light and plenty of childish pleasure ! Jean - Original Message - From: "Guy Glorieux" To: "Pinhole List" Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:17 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare > I had a dream... > > It was a dark, lonely night and I was out with my 8x10 PH camera. The > New Moon was further darkened by an incredibly rare simultaneous eclipse > of the sun and the moon. I could barely see my hands and feet as I > walked to the scene I was about to shoot for that winning picture for > the First International Nocturne Pinhole Exhibition. Ten times before > leaving I had checked that my film holders were fully loaded with film. > > A single word kept swirling in my mind:r e c i p r o c i t y > > I must not fail, I must not fail, I kept repeting to myself in the > darkness of the darkest forest. > > Formulas kept poping up in my mind: 10% compound; one-over-the > square-root of the inverse of the sunny-16 times three times the speed > of my film; add twice the diameter of my pinhole divided by the focal > length of my camera to the exposure time estimated for the 3rd f-stop on > my right and multiply the cosinus by the coefficient of uncertainty... > I knew I could do it. How could I fail with all this simple mathematics > so well spelled out on The list. > > Something tryied to grab me in the dark. I gave it a sharp blow and the > thing went blonk. Nothing could stop me from winning the top prize of > the Nocturne Pinhole Exhibition at Pinhole Vision. > > Finally I reached the scene. It was a wonderful landscape I had spotted > two days ago after hours of walk in the country side. I set the camera > on the tripod. The temperature was a chilling 25 below freezing but I > was well covered for a long wait. With my flashlight, I carefully read > the spotmeter's reading and worked out the reciprocity factor on my > PDA. 258 hours, 64 minutes and 12 seconds... Hmmm... Add a couple > hours, just to make sure... It was just that simple! > > I knew I could do it. But, rats, I suddenly realized that the final > deadline for submitting the print was tomorrow with an exposure time of > well over 10 days. I forgot to factor that into my equation... -:(( > > Guy Glorieux > > > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ > ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.p at ???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
Guy, Excellent !!! (en français dans le texte...) "Pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire compliqué ?" "Why do it simple when you can do it complicated ?" Sorry for everybody : I am not quite sure of this word- to- word translation of this old french idiomatic sentence ! Maybe someone can give me the english/american equivalent for it. Let's go pinholing with or without maths, PDA, songs... but surely with our open eyes, sensible heart, some light and plenty of childish pleasure ! Jean - Original Message - From: "Guy Glorieux" To: "Pinhole List" Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:17 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare > I had a dream... > > It was a dark, lonely night and I was out with my 8x10 PH camera. The > New Moon was further darkened by an incredibly rare simultaneous eclipse > of the sun and the moon. I could barely see my hands and feet as I > walked to the scene I was about to shoot for that winning picture for > the First International Nocturne Pinhole Exhibition. Ten times before > leaving I had checked that my film holders were fully loaded with film. > > A single word kept swirling in my mind:r e c i p r o c i t y > > I must not fail, I must not fail, I kept repeting to myself in the > darkness of the darkest forest. > > Formulas kept poping up in my mind: 10% compound; one-over-the > square-root of the inverse of the sunny-16 times three times the speed > of my film; add twice the diameter of my pinhole divided by the focal > length of my camera to the exposure time estimated for the 3rd f-stop on > my right and multiply the cosinus by the coefficient of uncertainty... > I knew I could do it. How could I fail with all this simple mathematics > so well spelled out on The list. > > Something tryied to grab me in the dark. I gave it a sharp blow and the > thing went blonk. Nothing could stop me from winning the top prize of > the Nocturne Pinhole Exhibition at Pinhole Vision. > > Finally I reached the scene. It was a wonderful landscape I had spotted > two days ago after hours of walk in the country side. I set the camera > on the tripod. The temperature was a chilling 25 below freezing but I > was well covered for a long wait. With my flashlight, I carefully read > the spotmeter's reading and worked out the reciprocity factor on my > PDA. 258 hours, 64 minutes and 12 seconds... Hmmm... Add a couple > hours, just to make sure... It was just that simple! > > I knew I could do it. But, rats, I suddenly realized that the final > deadline for submitting the print was tomorrow with an exposure time of > well over 10 days. I forgot to factor that into my equation... -:(( > > Guy Glorieux > > > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
Thanks leezy, Guy From: > > No...he's not a member of the list but I just sent it to him with your > permission. > Best, > leezy >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
In a message dated 1/10/01 3:18:43 PM, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes: << I'd be happy to contribute this piece to the Pinhole Journal but I wouldn't know how to contact Eric. Is he a member of the list? >> No...he's not a member of the list but I just sent it to him with your permission. Best, leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
b2myo...@aol.com wrote: > Guy, > > Thank you. > This piece is very funny, nice light hearted touch. > > Perhaps Eric Renner would like to see it...perhaps for the Pinhole Journal. > > leezy > Hi leezy, I'd be happy to contribute this piece to the Pinhole Journal but I would'nt know how to contact Eric. Is he a member of the list? I don't recal having seen him write here, but maybe I missed it. Perhaps you can direct me to his email address. This text was written last night in the middle of one of my frequent insomnia periods. I was still ruminating on the numerous threads relating to reciprocity failure and how I had been bedazzeled by all the mathematics, etc. I tend to shoot from the hip, and guesstimate my exposure based on my eye's reading of the light. Of course, I always have surprises (sometimes good, sometimes bad) when I look at my contact sheets after processing. One teacher at Ryerson University when I took courses there a few years ago was saying the in the 60's-70's there was a teacher who required his students to shoot all the assignments for the whole course at f-8 without ever using a lightmeter. They just had to figure out what whas the correct exposure! Theses guys, by the end of the course, could really handle anything int terms of reading light with their eyes, as opposed to a meter. So I do this a lot and, somehow, I also try to factor in an adjustment for reciprocity failure. I try to re-adjust each time I look at a new contact sheet. But, as I said, some are good, some are bad... The point is that I just refuse to become a hostage to the complexity of RF! Best, Guy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
bravo!!! a happy life is made up of many happy moments
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
Dear Mr Glorieux, I am writing to congratulate you on winning top prize at the First International Nocturne Pinhole Exhibition, in the dream reciprocity category... :-) Gregg _ Pinhole Visions at http://www.p at ???
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
Great fun, Guy! Hope your next dream gets here soon. Jim K - Original Message - From: "Guy Glorieux" > I had a dream... > > It was a dark, lonely night and I was out with my 8x10 PH camera. The > New Moon was further darkened by an incredibly rare simultaneous eclipse > of the sun and the moon. I could barely see my hands and feet as I > walked to the scene I was about to shoot for that winning picture for > the First International Nocturne Pinhole Exhibition. Ten times before > leaving I had checked that my film holders were fully loaded with film. > > A single word kept swirling in my mind:r e c i p r o c i t y > > I must not fail, I must not fail, I kept repeting to myself in the > darkness of the darkest forest. > > Formulas kept poping up in my mind: 10% compound; one-over-the > square-root of the inverse of the sunny-16 times three times the speed > of my film; add twice the diameter of my pinhole divided by the focal > length of my camera to the exposure time estimated for the 3rd f-stop on > my right and multiply the cosinus by the coefficient of uncertainty... > I knew I could do it. How could I fail with all this simple mathematics > so well spelled out on The list. > > Something tryied to grab me in the dark. I gave it a sharp blow and the > thing went blonk. Nothing could stop me from winning the top prize of > the Nocturne Pinhole Exhibition at Pinhole Vision. > > Finally I reached the scene. It was a wonderful landscape I had spotted > two days ago after hours of walk in the country side. I set the camera > on the tripod. The temperature was a chilling 25 below freezing but I > was well covered for a long wait. With my flashlight, I carefully read > the spotmeter's reading and worked out the reciprocity factor on my > PDA. 258 hours, 64 minutes and 12 seconds... Hmmm... Add a couple > hours, just to make sure... It was just that simple! > > I knew I could do it. But, rats, I suddenly realized that the final > deadline for submitting the print was tomorrow with an exposure time of > well over 10 days. I forgot to factor that into my equation... -:(( > > Guy Glorieux > > > > > > ___ > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.p at ???/discussion/ >
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
Guy, Thank you. This piece is very funny, nice light hearted touch. Perhaps Eric Renner would like to see it...perhaps for the Pinhole Journal. leezy
[pinhole-discussion] Reciprocity nightmare
I had a dream... It was a dark, lonely night and I was out with my 8x10 PH camera. The New Moon was further darkened by an incredibly rare simultaneous eclipse of the sun and the moon. I could barely see my hands and feet as I walked to the scene I was about to shoot for that winning picture for the First International Nocturne Pinhole Exhibition. Ten times before leaving I had checked that my film holders were fully loaded with film. A single word kept swirling in my mind:r e c i p r o c i t y I must not fail, I must not fail, I kept repeting to myself in the darkness of the darkest forest. Formulas kept poping up in my mind: 10% compound; one-over-the square-root of the inverse of the sunny-16 times three times the speed of my film; add twice the diameter of my pinhole divided by the focal length of my camera to the exposure time estimated for the 3rd f-stop on my right and multiply the cosinus by the coefficient of uncertainty... I knew I could do it. How could I fail with all this simple mathematics so well spelled out on The list. Something tryied to grab me in the dark. I gave it a sharp blow and the thing went blonk. Nothing could stop me from winning the top prize of the Nocturne Pinhole Exhibition at Pinhole Vision. Finally I reached the scene. It was a wonderful landscape I had spotted two days ago after hours of walk in the country side. I set the camera on the tripod. The temperature was a chilling 25 below freezing but I was well covered for a long wait. With my flashlight, I carefully read the spotmeter's reading and worked out the reciprocity factor on my PDA. 258 hours, 64 minutes and 12 seconds... Hmmm... Add a couple hours, just to make sure... It was just that simple! I knew I could do it. But, rats, I suddenly realized that the final deadline for submitting the print was tomorrow with an exposure time of well over 10 days. I forgot to factor that into my equation... -:(( Guy Glorieux
