Re: [pinhole-discussion] wondering about photoshop sharpening

2002-12-10 Thread Philip willarney
--- jaugu...@adelphia.net wrote:
 Oh my, she's got a split personality!
 
 Bad Lisa:
 
   Lisa the photographer spends her weekends in a
..snip..
 Good Lisa:
 
  Lisa the employee spends her workdays in front
 of a computer
..snip..

Nah, nah, it's real Lisa and work Lisa -- leave
Jekell  Hyde out of this.

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] wondering about photoshop sharpening

2002-12-10 Thread Lisa Reddig
OK, I'm gonna be the PHOTOSHOP BAD person.

I don't understand why so many people think working on a computer is easier
than working in the darkroom.  They will spend hours and hours dodging and
burning and sharpening in front of a monitor, while complaining about how
hard it is to do it in the darkroom.  Why should I sit in front of a
computer for hours to do what I can do sitting in a darkroom for hours?
Some people are hesitant to make the switch because it is not a necessary
switch.  It is just a preference.  I wouldn't even contemplate doing my
photography on a computer.  Computers are not part of my personal idea of
myself as a photographer.  Lisa the photographer spends her weekends in a
darkroom, with chemicals on her hands and old mixed tapes playing on the old
tape player.  Lisa the employee spends her workdays in front of a computer
screen sizing images for the web, typing and surfing.

And back to Jean's original question:  A pinhole camera can be made out of a
box and a piece of aluminum foil.  I'd like to see someone make a homemade
SLR in one afternoon.  With the cost of one SLR camera I can make a bazilion
different pinhole cameras.  That's one of the many reasons pinhole is
different than traditional photography.  And tell your sister that the
tradition of blurry pictures is so old it's not even questioned in the art
world any more, not even when done with a good camera.  I of course am not
saying blurry makes a picture good art, but it doesn't, in and of itself,
make it a bad picture.  That's just old school art speak for ya.


Lisa




 I've arrived at the conclusion that *any* photographic technique can be
 duped digitally and don't understand why some people are hesitant to make
 the switch.
 
 Just remember to use your best lense and take the *sharpest* photo you can.
 Everything else is keyboard-frierndly.
 
 regards,
 joseph
 
 wonder why we don't just take traditional  lens photographs and smear
 them a little and print them out to look like pinhole work.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] wondering about photoshop sharpening

2002-12-10 Thread jaugusta
I've arrived at the conclusion that *any* photographic technique can be
duped digitally and don't understand why some people are hesitant to make
the switch.

Just remember to use your best lense and take the *sharpest* photo you can.
Everything else is keyboard-frierndly.

regards,
joseph

 wonder why we don't just take traditional  lens photographs and smear
 them a little and print them out to look like pinhole work.






[pinhole-discussion] wondering about photoshop sharpening

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Dvoracek
I'm sure we've all thought about this. First of all, I also sharpen 
just about every scan, no matter what the source of the original 
image.  The scans just don't match the sharpness of the original 
print without it in my opinion.


As for combining pinhole and digital, I guess I justify myself with 
Adams  the negative is the composition, the print is the 
performance  I can't get the same images (or the same experience 
doing it) with regular cameras, and having been out of daily 
experience with the darkroom for fifteen years, I'm a pretty lousy 
performer with traditional methods any more, particularly contact 
printing paper negatives, but with a digital scan of that negative, I 
can get full range, burned and dodged, dust and scratch free prints, 
more honestly expressing what I want and what the negative holds.  I 
imagine this discussion probably came up when Muddy Waters started 
playing the blues on an electric guitar.


Nick


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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:53:08 -0800
From: Jean Hanson jhan...@pon.net
To: pinhole-discussion-request@p at ??? pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] wondering
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About the message two days ago; a member took a pinhole image,
sharpened it in Adobe or a digital method, and printed it out. I
wonder why we don't just take traditional  lens photographs and smear
them a little and print them out to look like pinhole work.


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