Bug#991408: Netbeans: source code problem

[Leandro Cunha]

Hi,

>From the tracking I did, I saw that several packages that had this lib
as a dependency, the maintainers removed it, with the exception of one
that has been outdated by upstream since 2008.
Have more here:
https://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~hosang/BiVoSite/API/org/netbeans/lib/awtextra/AbsoluteLayout.html

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Bug#991408: Netbeans: source code problem

[Markus Koschany]

Am Montag, dem 20.02.2023 um 12:41 -0300 schrieb Leandro Cunha:
> Hi Markus,
> 
> I have no interest in keeping Netbeans on Debian, but when I mention
> consistency (according to the dictionary: state or quality of what is
> coherent), it would be consistent with the reality that would be
> represented in the tracker and on package.debian.org that the package
> was removed from repository and if I give apt install netbeans it
> would not be found. The same as with other packages follows the Debian
> Developer Reference [1].


apt install netbeans will do nothing. The binary package has been removed from
Debian. The Netbeans source package has always produced libnb-absolutelayout-
java. There is no inconsistency. You either don't understand the difference
between a source and a binary package or you are deliberately annoying. In any
case I won't reply to this bug report anymore.


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Bug#991408: Netbeans: source code problem

[Leandro Cunha]

Hi Markus,

I have no interest in keeping Netbeans on Debian, but when I mention
consistency (according to the dictionary: state or quality of what is
coherent), it would be consistent with the reality that would be
represented in the tracker and on package.debian.org that the package
was removed from repository and if I give apt install netbeans it
would not be found. The same as with other packages follows the Debian
Developer Reference [1].

[1] 
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#removing-packages

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Bug#991408: Netbeans: source code problem

[Markus Koschany]

Am Sonntag, dem 19.02.2023 um 03:34 -0300 schrieb Leandro Cunha:
> Hi,
> 
> For some consistency please request the removal of this package
> including unstable. It makes no sense to have the name of an IDE and
> install a Java LayoutManager to allow placement in absolute positions.
> I even agree with the removal, but it must be done correctly and in
> such a way that I don't find this package in the repository via
> tracker.debian.org and packages.debian.org as if exist.
> I'll let whoever takes care of this package do that.
> Thanks!

If you want to re-introduce the Netbeans IDE, please do! Use the current source
package, prepare your work, find a sponsor and upload it to Debian. However the
Java team will not remove a source package from Debian just "for consistency".
We don't rename source packages just to re-introduce them later under a
different name, only to produce the same binary package as the current package
again. This would be completely nonsensical and a whole lot of make-work for
all involved parties, mostly the ftp-team and the Java team itself.


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Bug#991408: Netbeans: source code problem

[Leandro Cunha]

Hi,

For some consistency please request the removal of this package
including unstable. It makes no sense to have the name of an IDE and
install a Java LayoutManager to allow placement in absolute positions.
I even agree with the removal, but it must be done correctly and in
such a way that I don't find this package in the repository via
tracker.debian.org and packages.debian.org as if exist.
I'll let whoever takes care of this package do that.
Thanks!

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Bug#991408: Netbeans: source code problem

[Leandro Cunha]

Package: netbeans
Version: 12.1-3
Severity: critical

A while ago, I was analyzing this package and found that it has nothing to
do with the IDE for Java whose name is Netbeans, I suggest updating this
and make this package relevant for those who need this IDE for their
development environment. Or even removing this package, since the
maintainer's suggestion is to install via flatpak and since Netbeans is no
longer available by installing this package [2].
Thanks.

[1] https://salsa.debian.org/java-team/netbeans
[2]
https://salsa.debian.org/java-team/netbeans/-/blob/master/debian/README.source

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