Re: [mpg123-users] mpg123 version 1.22.4, re-enabling free format support

[Thomas Orgis]

Am Wed, 12 Aug 2015 07:59:10 +0200
schrieb Thomas Orgis : 

> with mpg123 version 1.14.1, free format support got broken by a bugfix.

This regression bugs me so much that I prepared a little script to fix
it for any affected version you may have on your system with some
reason preventing you from simply upgrading. So, here it is:

http://mpg123.org/download/mpg123-fix-freeformat-1.14.1-to-1.22.3.sh

for future reference, also attached.

I hope operating system distribution maintainers will pick this up to
avoid having folks locked in suboptimal mpg123 functionality for whole
distribution release cycles. 


Alrighty then,

Thomas


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Re: [mpg123-users] mpg123 version 1.22.4, re-enabling free format support

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On 2015-08-13 09:58, Thomas Orgis wrote:
> Am Wed, 12 Aug 2015 07:59:10 +0200 schrieb Thomas Orgis
> :
> 
>> with mpg123 version 1.14.1, free format support got broken by a
>> bugfix.
> 
> This regression bugs me so much that I prepared a little script to
> fix it for any affected version you may have on your system with
> some reason preventing you from simply upgrading.

while i haven't followed the bug that required a fix that breaks
functionality you need, it seems to me that the correct solution would
be to spend time fixing the regression (while at the same time keeping
the fix for the original bug intact).

and distributions will hopefuly distribute the fixed version (without
the regression), rather than an outdated version.

fgasdrj
IOhannes



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Re: [mpg123-users] mpg123 version 1.22.4, re-enabling free format support

[Thomas Orgis]

Am Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:18:26 +0200
schrieb forum::für::umläute : 

> while i haven't followed the bug that required a fix that breaks
> functionality you need, it seems to me that the correct solution would
> be to spend time fixing the regression (while at the same time keeping
> the fix for the original bug intact).

To clarify: This was me, mpg123 upstream, following-up to the
announcement of the new release on the mpg123-users list that fixes the
regression (1.22.4), precisely because …

> and distributions will hopefuly distribute the fixed version (without
> the regression), rather than an outdated version.

… distributions tend to keep the old base version of packages around
and carry patches where it is deemed necessary. In the case of Debian,
this affects

wheezy (oldstable): mpg123 1.14.4-1
jessie (stable):mpg123 1.20.1-2
stretch (testing):  mpg123 1.22.2-1

I suppose stretch will upgrade to 1.22.4 soon-ish, but wheezy and
jessie likely want to stay on the 1.14.x and 1.20.x feature series.

That's about exactly the range of versions affected by the regression,
so I provided a little script to make patching them up easy. It's a
3-line change, but a plain patch would differ subtly between the
versions.

While my policy is to keep each new mpg123 superior and compatible to
the previous version, it is exactly the case of unintended regressions
that can creep in that still gives a good argument for not always going
with the latest & greatest. Even an actual undisputed improvement in
user behaviour might not be wanted when the promise to the user is that
things are stable and do not change where it is not required to fix
bugs / vulnerabilities.


Alrighty then,

Thomas


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Bug#793937: [RFR] templates://libdvd-pkg/{templates}

[Justin B Rye]

Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
>>This package downloads the sourcecode for ${PKGM} from ${UPSTREAM},
>>compiles it into binary deb package format, and installs the output
>>(${PKGM_ALL}).
> 
> I like the use of word "software" but I do not like word "output" in this 
> context.

"Software" seems the obvious solution, but in this particular context
it feels slightly less natural - something like:

  This package downloads the sourcecode for ${PKGM} from ${UPSTREAM},
  compiles it into binary deb package format, and installs the resulting
  software (${PKGM_ALL}).

A third slightly awkward option would be to use "results", which would
be plural no matter how many packages it is:

  This package downloads the sourcecode for ${PKGM} from ${UPSTREAM},
  compiles it into binary deb package format, and installs the results
  (${PKGM_ALL}).

There are lots of ways we could do this, and none of them require us
to give the user the impression we're arbitrarily withholding useful
information.

> I respectfully disagree that it is "unfriendly" to try sharing 
> common parts between packages of similar design (but not necessary similar
> purpose). It is an attempt to deduplicate the maintenance (and translators) 
> effort -- it have nothing to do with users noticing similarity.

Except that you aren't currently using a variable for ${UPSTREAM}, so
the above text would be a separate job from the previous one involving
SourceForge...
 
>> If it's unlikely to matter for this package, I'd recommend taking the
>> confusing explicitly-uninformative uses of "(s)" out of the templates.
>> If it *might* matter, I still recommend getting rid of them, but in this
>> case it would be worth doing the work to phrase things so that you don't
>> need any uses of "(s)".
> 
> Would it be any less confusing if we always use plural form but sometimes 
> actually mention only one package in square brackets?

There are certainly ways we could get away with that; after all over
time this package is going to be building several libdvdcss .deb
files... hmmm:

  This package automates the process of doing downloads from ${UPSTREAM}
  of the source files for ${PKGM}, compiling them, and installing the
  binary deb packages (${PKGM_ALL}).

It might be harder to do the same trick each time... I'll try it and
see.

>> My point is that at present the template offers the user no such
>> background information.  How are they expected to make a decision?
> 
> Perhaps there is a room for improvements but I doubt such long explanations 
> regarding design of the package can be expected to be given in debconf 
> dialogs... I believe that just enough information to make decision is already 
> provided, together with recommended defaults.

Explanations don't necessarily have to be longwinded.  But if enough
information is provided, how come you're still shouting at me for not
understanding it?  Is libdvd-pkg targeted exclusively at users who are
smarter than me?

>> Square brackets are meaningless line noise.
> 
> I do not see brackets as "meaningless line noise". In theory we could present 
> list of packages as bulleted list but I prefer comma-separated list inside 
> brackets for greater visibility.

That would be perfectly fine, as long as you're using the en_GB sense
of "brackets" (en_US "parentheses")!  Different kinds of parenthesis
have different conventional uses in English prose:

 () = "bonus information" asides
 [] = "metatextual" additions, such as "[sic]"
 {} = never occur in traditional prose

Here we hardly even need to parenthesise them at all - it could almost
be:
  This package automates the process of doing downloads from ${UPSTREAM}
  of the sourcecode for ${PKGM}, compiling it, and installing the binary
  deb packages: ${PKGM_ALL}.

It would be better with a conjunction in the case of multiple
packages, but that's true whether it's bracketed or not, and there's
no i18n-friendly way of automating it.

>> If you can tell me what
>> you're hoping to accomplish with them, I can try to find a solution that
>> actually conveys that.  Is it maybe intended as Python list syntax?  If
>> so, no, you don't get to do that; it's supposed to be self-evidently
>> comprehensible to English-speakers.
> 
> It was not intended to be Python list syntax. I doubt English-speaking users 
> would be so confused by list of packages in brackets. Do you really think 
> brackets make it hard(er) to understand what's going on?

Any case where you replace conventional punctuation with
unconventional punctuation makes it slightly harder to follow*
 
>> You think the end users who chose to install this package because you
>> advertised it to them as providing a way of watching DVDs are going to
>> want to build and install -dev packages?  That strikes me as
>> implausible.
> 
> It doesn't matter. -dev package is in Provides field so it can be pulled 
> despite of package description.

I don't follow.

> The latter is

Re: [mpg123-users] mpg123 version 1.22.4, re-enabling free format support

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

thanks for the clarification.
makes total sense.

fgmrdsa
IOhannes

On 08/13/2015 05:59 PM, Thomas Orgis wrote:
> Am Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:18:26 +0200
> schrieb forum::für::umläute : 
> 
>> while i haven't followed the bug that required a fix that breaks
>> functionality you need, it seems to me that the correct solution would
>> be to spend time fixing the regression (while at the same time keeping
>> the fix for the original bug intact).
> 
> To clarify: This was me, mpg123 upstream, following-up to the
> announcement of the new release on the mpg123-users list that fixes the
> regression (1.22.4), precisely because …
> 
>> and distributions will hopefuly distribute the fixed version (without
>> the regression), rather than an outdated version.
> 
> … distributions tend to keep the old base version of packages around
> and carry patches where it is deemed necessary. In the case of Debian,
> this affects
> 
> wheezy (oldstable): mpg123 1.14.4-1
> jessie (stable):mpg123 1.20.1-2
> stretch (testing):  mpg123 1.22.2-1
> 
> I suppose stretch will upgrade to 1.22.4 soon-ish, but wheezy and
> jessie likely want to stay on the 1.14.x and 1.20.x feature series.
> 
> That's about exactly the range of versions affected by the regression,
> so I provided a little script to make patching them up easy. It's a
> 3-line change, but a plain patch would differ subtly between the
> versions.
> 
> While my policy is to keep each new mpg123 superior and compatible to
> the previous version, it is exactly the case of unintended regressions
> that can creep in that still gives a good argument for not always going
> with the latest & greatest. Even an actual undisputed improvement in
> user behaviour might not be wanted when the promise to the user is that
> things are stable and do not change where it is not required to fix
> bugs / vulnerabilities.
> 
> 
> Alrighty then,
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
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Bug#794817: Should mplayer2 be removed from unstable?

[Andreas Cadhalpun]

On 07.08.2015 03:19, Sebastian Ramacher wrote:
> On 2015-08-06 23:05:58, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
>> Unless someone objects, I'll reassign this bug to ftp.debian.org for
>> removal soon.
> 
> Before doing so, please file bugs against packages (Build-)Depending on
> mplayer2 to switch back to mplayer:
> 
> Checking reverse dependencies...
> # Broken Depends:
> jajuk: jajuk
> kphotoalbum: kphotoalbum
> 
> # Broken Build-Depends:
> jajuk: mplayer2

I've filed #795418 for jajuk and #795419 for kphotoalbum and made them block
this bug.

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Bug#795442: musescore: does not honor /etc/papersize

[brian m. carlson]

Package: musescore
Version: 2.0.2+dfsg-1
Severity: normal

/etc/papersize is set to "letter", but attempting to print to my printer
(or to a file) causes it to attempt to print A4.  Moreover, immediately
after setting it to Letter and printing, attempting to print again makes
it go right back to A4, so it doesn't remember my settings, unlike every
other program.

While I understand that A4 is used by most of the world and is an
international standard (and I agree is desirable than Letter), I live in
the United States and only have Letter paper.  The fact that it doesn't
preserve the settings in the print dialog would not be so bad, but it
doesn't honor /etc/papersize, which makes printing very frustrating.

All software on Debian systems, including musescore, should honor
/etc/papersize, as it avoids this problem wholesale.  Please fix
musescore so it honors this setting.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: stretch/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 4.1.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=es_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages musescore depends on:
ii  desktop-file-utils   0.22-1
ii  libasound2   1.0.29-1
ii  libc62.19-19
ii  libfreetype6 2.5.2-4
ii  libgcc1  1:5.2.1-15
ii  libogg0  1.3.2-1
ii  libportaudio219+svn20140130-1
ii  libpulse06.0-5
ii  libqt5concurrent55.4.2+dfsg-8
ii  libqt5core5a [qtbase-abi-5-4-2]  5.4.2+dfsg-8
ii  libqt5designer5  5.4.2-3
ii  libqt5gui5   5.4.2+dfsg-8
ii  libqt5help5  5.4.2-3
ii  libqt5network5   5.4.2+dfsg-8
ii  libqt5printsupport5  5.4.2+dfsg-8
ii  libqt5qml5   5.4.2-6
ii  libqt5quick5 5.4.2-6
ii  libqt5quickwidgets5  5.4.2-6
ii  libqt5sql5   5.4.2+dfsg-8
ii  libqt5sql5-sqlite5.4.2+dfsg-8
ii  libqt5svg5   5.4.2-2+b1
ii  libqt5test5  5.4.2+dfsg-8
ii  libqt5webkit55.4.2+dfsg-3
ii  libqt5widgets5   5.4.2+dfsg-8
ii  libqt5xml5   5.4.2+dfsg-8
ii  libqt5xmlpatterns5   5.4.2-2+b1
ii  libsndfile1  1.0.25-9.1
ii  libstdc++6   5.2.1-15
ii  libvorbis0a  1.3.4-2
ii  libvorbisfile3   1.3.4-2
ii  musescore-common 2.0.2+dfsg-1
ii  qml-module-qtquick-controls  5.4.2-2+b1
ii  qml-module-qtquick-layouts   5.4.2-2+b1
ii  qml-module-qtquick2  5.4.2-6
ii  shared-mime-info 1.3-1
ii  xdg-utils1.1.0~rc1+git20111210-7.4
ii  zlib1g   1:1.2.8.dfsg-2+b1

Versions of packages musescore recommends:
ii  pulseaudio-utils  6.0-5

Versions of packages musescore suggests:
ii  fluid-soundfont-gm  3.1-5
pn  timgm6mb-soundfont  

-- no debconf information

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