Bug#771126: Bug#771191: Bug#771126: Bug#771191: Bug#771126: libav/tests/lena.pnm: also not mentioned in debian/copyright
Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com writes: Am Dienstag, den 02.12.2014, 23:29 +0100 schrieb Bastien ROUCARIES: And offencive (sexist) for 50% of the population the women... Now it's getting really ridiculous. Gosh, it's a picture of a woman! Er, no, it's not just a picture of a woman. It's a cropped Playboy centerfold. In other words, it's a porn shot (if one from the fairly artistic side of that spectrum) that's been cropped to remove the explicit sexual content. The image itself is one thing; the surrounding context of the image makes it a bit worse. Obviously, in terms of great problems facing the world, this isn't the worst. But having the standard test picture for image software be a porn image does send certain messages, and they're probably not messages that we (by which I mean the general software and tech industry as a whole) actually want to be sending. This is not a problem of Debian's creation, and we can't fix the world, but insofar as we can contribute to not sending those messages, I think that makes the world, and Debian, a better place. Thank you very much to Reinhard for doing the irritating and tedious work of starting to replace it. It feels like a distraction from other work and a thankless task, I know, but small things like this really do make people happier and help people in tiny ways. Software became a bit less off-putting, a bit less locked into a particular model of how genders are supposed to interact, and a tiny bit more welcoming. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#771126: Bug#771191: Bug#771126: libav/tests/lena.pnm: also not mentioned in debian/copyright
Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2014-12-03 11:33:17) Quoting Fabian Greffrath (2014-12-03 08:56:41) Am Dienstag, den 02.12.2014, 23:29 +0100 schrieb Bastien ROUCARIES: And offencive (sexist) for 50% of the population the women... Now it's getting really ridiculous. Gosh, it's a picture of a woman! I disagree with you. Honestly, when you mentioned you'd replaced with a photo of your own, I got very curious and checked if you'd made a self-portrait posing similarly - looking over your shoulder and into the camera with an invitation in the eyes. You chose food. Had you done that (in an honest attempt, inspired by but without making fun on the original), your comment now would have more meaning to me. Whoops - sorry: I mixed up you and Reinhard. :-( - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#771126: Bug#771191: Bug#771126: libav/tests/lena.pnm: also not mentioned in debian/copyright
Le 2 déc. 2014 14:15, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com a écrit : On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Niels Thykier ni...@thykier.net wrote: Control: tags -1 -wheezy-ignore On 2014-11-27 23:23, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Niels Thykier (2014-11-27 22:14:25) [...] In prior similar bugreport https://bugs.debian.org/760171#10 - referenced from https://bugs.debian.org/771191#10 - distribution is documented as permitted only for research and education which I interpret as unacceptable for Debian. [...] - Jonas FTR, this whole business feel incredibly silly. lena.pnm has become the *de-facto* standard image for every CS student to do his graphics courses homework on, and is generally considered to public domain, And offencive (sexist) for 50% of the population the women... Bastien even without proper documentation. The copyright holder is going to have a very hard time enforcing his right if he wanted to prevent distribution of the image, in particular the low-quality scan that is being used in the Libav source package. Also, even according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenna.png#Licensing, the holder is not interested in that to begin with. - I mean, really, don't we have more important things to do? Nevertheless, lena.pnm lacks proper licensing and some argue it violates the DFSG, so I've taken the effort (and ridicule!) to replace lena.pnm upstream with a new image reference.pnm, which I have personally taken this summer and upon Jonas' suggestion provide it under the expat license. This required to update all test reference patterns, which took most of the effort and is basically not verifiable. Jonas, would you mind taking over from here and upload https://libav.org/releases/libav-11.1.tar.xz to unstable? Otherwise I can see if I can get to that this weekend. Regarding stable: I've backported this change back to release/0.8 upstream. In the past, the security team has accepted libav point releases in wheezy-security, and I trust that this is also an acceptable change. It will be part of the next upload to stable-security. (this may take some more weeks, as libav has been notified about a couple of more CVEs, which need to be tested, fixed and verified, which is incredibly laborsome to do correctly). Does this plan work for everyone? -- regards, Reinhard ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Bug#771126: Bug#771191: Bug#771126: libav/tests/lena.pnm: also not mentioned in debian/copyright
Am Dienstag, den 02.12.2014, 23:29 +0100 schrieb Bastien ROUCARIES: And offencive (sexist) for 50% of the population the women... Now it's getting really ridiculous. Gosh, it's a picture of a woman! - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
