Re: Bug#792619: transition: ffmpeg

2015-07-23 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Jonathan,

On 23.07.2015 16:18, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
 Thanks. sflphone also seems rather unhappy; could you take a look at that too 
 please?

That's caused by bug #787390 [1], which has a working patch.
(I mentioned this in the initial mail [2].)

By the way, do you know why vtk6 is shown as bad in the transition tracker,
even though it built successfully with ffmpeg?

Best regards,
Andreas

1: https://bugs.debian.org/787390
2: https://bugs.debian.org/792619#5


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Re: Bug#792619: transition: ffmpeg

2015-07-23 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire

On 2015-07-21 16:54, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:

Unfortunately, three more packages fail to build:
 * avbin: #793131
 * dvbcut: #793089
 * gazebo: #792992

The first two fail, because the libav* headers are now installed
in the multi-arch locations. (For whatever reason, my build chroot
contained a copy of these headers in /usr/include, so I hadn't
noticed this during my rebuild tests.).
The third fails due to the new bullet version.
I've sent patches to all of them.


Thanks. sflphone also seems rather unhappy; could you take a look at 
that too please?


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Re: Bug#792619: transition: ffmpeg

2015-07-23 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 2015-07-23 15:49, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
By the way, do you know why vtk6 is shown as bad in the transition 
tracker,

even though it built successfully with ffmpeg?


Because building successfully doesn't mean building sanely.

Package: libvtk6.1
Source: vtk6 (6.1.0+dfsg2-6)
Version: 6.1.0+dfsg2-6+b1
Installed-Size: 121728
Maintainer: Debian Science Team 
debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Architecture: amd64
Replaces: libvtk32, libvtk4, libvtk4c2, libvtk4c2a, libvtk5, libvtk5.8, 
libvtk6
Depends: libavcodec56 (= 6:11~beta1) | libavcodec-extra-56 (= 
6:11~beta1), libavformat56 (= 6:11~beta1), libavutil54 (= 6:11~beta1), 
libc6 (= 2.15), [...]


Regards,

Adam

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Re: Bug#792619: transition: ffmpeg

2015-07-23 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
On 23.07.2015 17:46, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On 2015-07-23 16:41, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On 2015-07-23 15:49, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
 By the way, do you know why vtk6 is shown as bad in the transition tracker,
 even though it built successfully with ffmpeg?

 Because building successfully doesn't mean building sanely.

 Package: libvtk6.1
 Source: vtk6 (6.1.0+dfsg2-6)
 Version: 6.1.0+dfsg2-6+b1
 
 Specifically, I got the right reason but the wrong reason for it. :-)
 
 It's still bad because libvtk6.1 is still in sid. And libvtk6.1 is still
 in sid because of the mess that is the vtk6 transition (#749395, which
 has been going on for over a year now).

Ah, that explains it. There is a vtk6.1 - vtk6.2 transition [1]
going on in the middle of the vtk - vtk6 transition [2].

Maybe scheduling binNMUs for the packages depending on libvtk6.1
(gammaray, liggghts, mia, nifti2dicom, therion) would help?

Best regards,
Andreas


1: https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-vtk6.html
2: https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/vtk6.html

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Re: Bug#792619: transition: ffmpeg

2015-07-23 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire

On 2015-07-23 17:09, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:

On 23.07.2015 17:46, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

On 2015-07-23 16:41, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

On 2015-07-23 15:49, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
By the way, do you know why vtk6 is shown as bad in the transition 
tracker,

even though it built successfully with ffmpeg?


Because building successfully doesn't mean building sanely.

Package: libvtk6.1
Source: vtk6 (6.1.0+dfsg2-6)
Version: 6.1.0+dfsg2-6+b1


Specifically, I got the right reason but the wrong reason for it. :-)

It's still bad because libvtk6.1 is still in sid. And libvtk6.1 is 
still
in sid because of the mess that is the vtk6 transition (#749395, 
which

has been going on for over a year now).


Ah, that explains it. There is a vtk6.1 - vtk6.2 transition [1]
going on in the middle of the vtk - vtk6 transition [2].

Maybe scheduling binNMUs for the packages depending on libvtk6.1
(gammaray, liggghts, mia, nifti2dicom, therion) would help?


It would, if libvtk6.2 would build in sid on all architectures where 6.1 
builds, which it doesn't. (The whole thing is a horrible mess, that much 
we can certainly agree on.)



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Re: Bug#792619: transition: ffmpeg

2015-07-21 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi,

On 20.07.2015 16:46, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
 It has been uploaded and built on most architectures (still Needs-Build on
 mips and s390x).

It now built on those two, as well.

Unfortunately, three more packages fail to build:
 * avbin: #793131
 * dvbcut: #793089
 * gazebo: #792992

The first two fail, because the libav* headers are now installed
in the multi-arch locations. (For whatever reason, my build chroot
contained a copy of these headers in /usr/include, so I hadn't
noticed this during my rebuild tests.).
The third fails due to the new bullet version.
I've sent patches to all of them.

Best regards,
Andreas

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Re: Bug#792619: transition: ffmpeg

2015-07-20 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Jonathan,

On 18.07.2015 12:50, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
 Control: tag -1 confirmed
 
 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:08:10PM +0200, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
 A ben file can be found at the end of the mail.
 Please set up a transition tracker and let me know, when the upload to
 unstable can happen.
 (The command line tools transition is not required to happen in lock step,
 because the transitional package libav-tools-links can satisfy the
 dependencies, until the packages are updated.)
 
 Please go ahead.

It has been uploaded and built on most architectures (still Needs-Build on
mips and s390x).

When you schedule the binNMUs, please also include bs1770gain, kodi and mlt,
even though they are already built against ffmpeg.
The new version has gained a libavcodec-extra flavor, so they should pick
up the alternative dependency on libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56.

As the transition is now ongoing, I've changed the severity of #790356
(gst-libav1.0) to serious and filed #793015 for taoframework.

Best regards,
Andreas


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Re: Bug#792619: transition: ffmpeg

2015-07-17 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi,

On 17.07.2015 08:57, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
 Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
 (The command line tools transition is not required to happen in lock step,
 because the transitional package libav-tools-links can satisfy the
 dependencies, until the packages are updated.)
 
 and from the wiki page:
 To facilitate the transition, a libav-tools-links package, which
 'Provides: libav-tools' and contains links from the av* to the ff*
 binaries is going to be built from src:ffmpeg.
 
 That sounds very fragile. Apt does not handle upgrades from real to
 virtual packages very well,

I'm aware of that, but thanks for pointing it out anyway. ;)

 you should use a real transitional package
 named 'libav-tools' (which could just depend on libav-tools-links).
 (See 'apt does not find an upgrade path' bugs from the last years ...)

Now that it's been decided to drop the libav source package after the
transition, we could do this, but the question is, whether we should.
I've asked for feedback about that [1]:
Though I'm wondering now, if it wouldn't be better to also take over the 
libav-tools
binary package (instead of the libav-tools-links package), so that existing
installations of libav-tools get migrated to ffmpeg.

The libav-tools-links only 'Provides: libav-tools' so that dependencies can be 
satisfied,
but since apt prefers real packages over virtual ones, it wouldn't affect 
existing
libav-tools installations.

What do you think?

The thing is that last time people didn't like to get the libav tools, when
they had installed ffmpeg...

In any case, this does not have to be entangled with the library transition.

Best regards,
Andreas


1: 
https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2015-July/045700.html

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Re: Bug#792619: transition: ffmpeg

2015-07-17 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Control: tag -1 - moreinfo

Hi,

On 17.07.2015 00:29, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:08:10PM +0200, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
 the Debian Multimedia Maintainers team decided to switch from Libav
 to FFmpeg [1]. Thus please remove the testing migration block of ffmpeg.
 
 Here's a go at a transition page - not quite the same as yours. Please
 check it:
 
 https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/ffmpeg-libav.html

Thanks. It has two false positives (devede and dvd-slideshow), which
depend on libavcodec-extra. That is just a meta-package and exists
before and after the transition. Please remove that from the list
of affected packages.

Then there is mrpt, which doesn't build-depend on the lib*-dev
packages, so I hadn't noticed it until now. But I just checked
and it builds fine.

Otherwise the tracker looks correct.

Best regards,
Andreas

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Re: Bug#792619: transition: ffmpeg

2015-07-16 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
Control: forwarded -1 
https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/ffmpeg-libav.html
Control: tag -1 moreinfo

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:08:10PM +0200, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
 the Debian Multimedia Maintainers team decided to switch from Libav
 to FFmpeg [1]. Thus please remove the testing migration block of ffmpeg.

Here's a go at a transition page - not quite the same as yours. Please
check it:

https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/ffmpeg-libav.html

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