remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-08-31 Thread Paul Wise
Hi,

Now that kodi is in Debian, should xbmc get removed?

If you agree, please file a removal bug report:

https://wiki.debian.org/ftpmaster_Removals

If I don't hear back in 2 weeks I will file one.

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-08-31 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi Paul,

2016-09-01 4:43 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise :
> Hi,
>
> Now that kodi is in Debian, should xbmc get removed?
>
> If you agree, please file a removal bug report:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/ftpmaster_Removals
>
> If I don't hear back in 2 weeks I will file one.

Xbmc packages are empty now helping the migration to kodi. I think
they should be
released with stretch.

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-08-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2016-09-01 at 08:11 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:

> Xbmc packages are empty now helping the migration to kodi. I think
> they should be released with stretch.

Why are the transitional packages in src:xbmc instead of src:kodi?

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-08-31 Thread Bálint Réczey
2016-09-01 8:12 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise :
> On Thu, 2016-09-01 at 08:11 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:
>
>> Xbmc packages are empty now helping the migration to kodi. I think
>> they should be released with stretch.
>
> Why are the transitional packages in src:xbmc instead of src:kodi?

Because this way we can get rid of the epoch.

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-08-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2016-09-01 at 08:17 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:

> Because this way we can get rid of the epoch.

You can have different version numbers between source and binary
packages. So src:kodi 16.1+dfsg1-2 can build xbmc 2:13.2+dfsg1-6.

You may also want to drop the orig.tar.gz from xbmc too.

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-09-20 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi Paul,

2016-09-01 8:21 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise :
> On Thu, 2016-09-01 at 08:17 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:
>
>> Because this way we can get rid of the epoch.
>
> You can have different version numbers between source and binary
> packages. So src:kodi 16.1+dfsg1-2 can build xbmc 2:13.2+dfsg1-6.
>
> You may also want to drop the orig.tar.gz from xbmc too.

I have changed kodi 17.x to provide xbmc*.
The next upload to experimental will contain the fix.

Thanks for the hints.

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-09-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, 2016-09-20 at 18:14 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:

> I have changed kodi 17.x to provide xbmc*.
> The next upload to experimental will contain the fix.

Excellent, thanks for that!

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-10-26 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi Paul,

2016-09-21 4:28 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise :
> On Tue, 2016-09-20 at 18:14 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:
>
>> I have changed kodi 17.x to provide xbmc*.
>> The next upload to experimental will contain the fix.
>
> Excellent, thanks for that!

It seems it is too much hassle to maintain the xbmc packages
generated from kodi source, see #842141.

I could append the current version to the xbmc package versions,
but that would just confuse users.

If you have any good idea please share it, otherwise I'm revert to
provide the transitional packages from xbmc.

Cheers,
Balint

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-10-26 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Bálint Réczey wrote:
> If you have any good idea please share it, otherwise I'm revert to
> provide the transitional packages from xbmc.

Epochs have been invented for this exact use case.

 - Fabian



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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2016-10-26 at 12:00 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:

> It seems it is too much hassle to maintain the xbmc packages
> generated from kodi source, see #842141.

Ugh, that is annoying.

> I could append the current version to the xbmc package versions,
> but that would just confuse users.

That is exactly what libreoffice does:

https://sources.debian.net/src/libreoffice/1:5.2.3~rc1-4/debian/rules/#L3654

> If you have any good idea please share it, otherwise I'm revert to
> provide the transitional packages from xbmc.

That seems fine.

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-10-26 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi Fabian,

2016-10-26 12:06 GMT+02:00 Fabian Greffrath :
> Bálint Réczey wrote:
>> If you have any good idea please share it, otherwise I'm revert to
>> provide the transitional packages from xbmc.
>
> Epochs have been invented for this exact use case.

Are you suggesting some other solution? I'm not sure I understand it then.
Xbmc has epoch which I got rid of with kodi.

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-10-26 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Bálint Réczey wrote:
> Are you suggesting some other solution? I'm not sure I understand it then.
> Xbmc has epoch which I got rid of with kodi.

I'd suggest to re-apply (and maybe even increment) xbmc's epoch for kodi.
What's the point in getting rid of an epoch, why is it even important?

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-10-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2016-10-26 at 12:19 +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:

> I'd suggest to re-apply (and maybe even increment) xbmc's epoch for kodi.

That isn't going to fix the RC bug.

The only options are:

 * Generate the xbmc versions in a different way.
 * Move the xbmc transitional packages back to xbmc

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-10-26 Thread Bálint Réczey
2016-10-26 12:19 GMT+02:00 Fabian Greffrath :
> Bálint Réczey wrote:
>> Are you suggesting some other solution? I'm not sure I understand it then.
>> Xbmc has epoch which I got rid of with kodi.
>
> I'd suggest to re-apply (and maybe even increment) xbmc's epoch for kodi.
> What's the point in getting rid of an epoch, why is it even important?

It is ugly and confusing for many users.
The renaming of XBMC to Kodi is a good opportunity for getting rid of it.

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-10-26 Thread Bálint Réczey
2016-10-26 12:28 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise :
> On Wed, 2016-10-26 at 12:19 +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
>
>> I'd suggest to re-apply (and maybe even increment) xbmc's epoch for kodi.
>
> That isn't going to fix the RC bug.
>
> The only options are:
>
>  * Generate the xbmc versions in a different way.

Using 2:17.x version for kodi and providing the transitional packages with
this version would solve the problem, but I don't like that solution.

>  * Move the xbmc transitional packages back to xbmc

This will result nicer versions for Stretch and later thus I plan
implementing that.

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-10-26 Thread James Cowgill
On 26/10/16 11:00, Bálint Réczey wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> 2016-09-21 4:28 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise :
>> On Tue, 2016-09-20 at 18:14 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:
>>
>>> I have changed kodi 17.x to provide xbmc*.
>>> The next upload to experimental will contain the fix.
>>
>> Excellent, thanks for that!
> 
> It seems it is too much hassle to maintain the xbmc packages
> generated from kodi source, see #842141.
> 
> I could append the current version to the xbmc package versions,
> but that would just confuse users.

This is normal for transitional packages.

> If you have any good idea please share it, otherwise I'm revert to
> provide the transitional packages from xbmc.

This is what I'm about to upload to do the mplayer2 -> mpv transition:
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/mpv.git/commit/?id=1ef5c58015019a414bd89c98b1de215c3fcbcca5

That allows me to not epoch the whole of mpv.

James



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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-10-26 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi James,

2016-10-26 12:48 GMT+02:00 James Cowgill :
> On 26/10/16 11:00, Bálint Réczey wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> 2016-09-21 4:28 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise :
>>> On Tue, 2016-09-20 at 18:14 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:
>>>
 I have changed kodi 17.x to provide xbmc*.
 The next upload to experimental will contain the fix.
>>>
>>> Excellent, thanks for that!
>>
>> It seems it is too much hassle to maintain the xbmc packages
>> generated from kodi source, see #842141.
>>
>> I could append the current version to the xbmc package versions,
>> but that would just confuse users.
>
> This is normal for transitional packages.
>
>> If you have any good idea please share it, otherwise I'm revert to
>> provide the transitional packages from xbmc.
>
> This is what I'm about to upload to do the mplayer2 -> mpv transition:
> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/mpv.git/commit/?id=1ef5c58015019a414bd89c98b1de215c3fcbcca5
>
> That allows me to not epoch the whole of mpv.

Thanks, let's try this then.

Cheers,
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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-11-18 Thread Bálint Réczey
2016-10-26 13:12 GMT+02:00 Bálint Réczey :
> Hi James,
>
> 2016-10-26 12:48 GMT+02:00 James Cowgill :
>> On 26/10/16 11:00, Bálint Réczey wrote:
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> 2016-09-21 4:28 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise :
 On Tue, 2016-09-20 at 18:14 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:

> I have changed kodi 17.x to provide xbmc*.
> The next upload to experimental will contain the fix.

 Excellent, thanks for that!
>>>
>>> It seems it is too much hassle to maintain the xbmc packages
>>> generated from kodi source, see #842141.
>>>
>>> I could append the current version to the xbmc package versions,
>>> but that would just confuse users.
>>
>> This is normal for transitional packages.
>>
>>> If you have any good idea please share it, otherwise I'm revert to
>>> provide the transitional packages from xbmc.
>>
>> This is what I'm about to upload to do the mplayer2 -> mpv transition:
>> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/mpv.git/commit/?id=1ef5c58015019a414bd89c98b1de215c3fcbcca5
>>
>> That allows me to not epoch the whole of mpv.
>
> Thanks, let's try this then.

For the record somehow the 2: epoch sneaked in for kodi and I had to
adopt it everywhere in the package. :-\

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Re: remove xbmc from Debian testing/unstable?

2016-11-18 Thread James Cowgill
On 18/11/16 19:45, Bálint Réczey wrote:
> 2016-10-26 13:12 GMT+02:00 Bálint Réczey :
>> Hi James,
>>
>> 2016-10-26 12:48 GMT+02:00 James Cowgill :
>>> On 26/10/16 11:00, Bálint Réczey wrote:
 Hi Paul,

 2016-09-21 4:28 GMT+02:00 Paul Wise :
> On Tue, 2016-09-20 at 18:14 +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote:
>
>> I have changed kodi 17.x to provide xbmc*.
>> The next upload to experimental will contain the fix.
>
> Excellent, thanks for that!

 It seems it is too much hassle to maintain the xbmc packages
 generated from kodi source, see #842141.

 I could append the current version to the xbmc package versions,
 but that would just confuse users.
>>>
>>> This is normal for transitional packages.
>>>
 If you have any good idea please share it, otherwise I'm revert to
 provide the transitional packages from xbmc.
>>>
>>> This is what I'm about to upload to do the mplayer2 -> mpv transition:
>>> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/mpv.git/commit/?id=1ef5c58015019a414bd89c98b1de215c3fcbcca5
>>>
>>> That allows me to not epoch the whole of mpv.
>>
>> Thanks, let's try this then.
> 
> For the record somehow the 2: epoch sneaked in for kodi and I had to
> adopt it everywhere in the package. :-\

That's unfortunate.

kodi 17.0~beta5+dfsg1-3:
> -override_dh_gencontrol:
> +override_dh_gencontrol-arch:
>   debian/dh-addon/dh_kodiaddon_depends
> - dh_gencontrol -pxbmc -pxbmc-bin -pxbmc-eventclients-common \
> + dh_gencontrol -a -pxbmc-bin -- -v2:"$(VERSION)"
> + dh_gencontrol -a --remaining-packages

The "-a -pxbmc-bin" is what broke it. Debhelper applied the epoch to the
_union_ of arch dependent packages and 'xbmc-bin' instead of the
intersection which is probably what you expected it to do.

James



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