Bug#877414: systemd: please include a /var/log/README like Fedora has
Package: systemd Version: 232-25+deb9u1 Severity: wishlist Dear Maintainer, this might be a totally bogus bug report (because I might have missed that this is already implemented in Debian, eg I only checked stretch and a sid schroot, but not a real sid system…), but I really like this on Fedora systems and I think we should have it in Debian too: [user@fedora-25 ~]$ cat /var/log/README You are looking for the traditional text log files in /var/log, and they are gone? Here's an explanation on what's going on: You are running a systemd-based OS where traditional syslog has been replaced with the Journal. The journal stores the same (and more) information as classic syslog. To make use of the journal and access the collected log data simply invoke "journalctl", which will output the logs in the identical text-based format the syslog files in /var/log used to be. For further details, please refer to journalctl(1). Alternatively, consider installing one of the traditional syslog implementations available for your distribution, which will generate the classic log files for you. Syslog implementations such as syslog-ng or rsyslog may be installed side-by-side with the journal and will continue to function the way they always did. Thank you! Further reading: man:journalctl(1) man:systemd-journald.service(8) man:journald.conf(5) http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-journal.html [user@fedora-25 ~]$ Thanks for maintaining systemd! -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
Bug#877414: systemd: please include a /var/log/README like Fedora has
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Package: systemd > Version: 232-25+deb9u1 > Severity: wishlist > > Dear Maintainer, > > this might be a totally bogus bug report (because I might have missed that > this is already implemented in Debian, eg I only checked stretch and a sid > schroot, but not a real sid system…), but I really like this on Fedora > systems and I think we should have it in Debian too: Well, in debian we (still) install rsyslog by default, so that README would be a bit inaccurate. We don't enable persistent journal by default either. Maybe these two defaults should be changed? I have no opinion on that. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
Bug#877414: systemd: please include a /var/log/README like Fedora has
Am 01.10.2017 um 19:30 schrieb Felipe Sateler: > On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: >> >> Package: systemd >> Version: 232-25+deb9u1 >> Severity: wishlist >> >> Dear Maintainer, >> >> this might be a totally bogus bug report (because I might have missed that >> this is already implemented in Debian, eg I only checked stretch and a sid >> schroot, but not a real sid system…), but I really like this on Fedora >> systems and I think we should have it in Debian too: > > Well, in debian we (still) install rsyslog by default, so that README > would be a bit inaccurate. We don't enable persistent journal by > default either. Maybe these two defaults should be changed? I have no > opinion on that. Right, that's the reason why we don't install that README atm, as it would be confusing. Enabling persistent logging and no longer installing rsyslog by default should go hand in hand, as I don't think we really want to log everything twice to disk. Once and if that happens, installing the README would make sense as wel I guess. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
Bug#877414: systemd: please include a /var/log/README like Fedora has
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 09:50:07PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Right, that's the reason why we don't install that README atm, as it > would be confusing. Enabling persistent logging and no longer installing > rsyslog by default should go hand in hand, as I don't think we really > want to log everything twice to disk. Once and if that happens, > installing the README would make sense as wel I guess. so, should we/I retitle this bug "please enable persistent logging" or rather close it? :-) -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
Bug#877414: systemd: please include a /var/log/README like Fedora has
Control: block -1 by 717388 Am 01.10.2017 um 22:10 schrieb Holger Levsen: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 09:50:07PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Right, that's the reason why we don't install that README atm, as it >> would be confusing. Enabling persistent logging and no longer installing >> rsyslog by default should go hand in hand, as I don't think we really >> want to log everything twice to disk. Once and if that happens, >> installing the README would make sense as wel I guess. > > so, should we/I retitle this bug "please enable persistent logging" or rather > close it? :-) There's already a bug for that. Let's block this bug accordingly -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
Processed: Re: Bug#877414: systemd: please include a /var/log/README like Fedora has
Processing control commands: > block -1 by 717388 Bug #877414 [systemd] systemd: please include a /var/log/README like Fedora has 877414 was not blocked by any bugs. 877414 was not blocking any bugs. Added blocking bug(s) of 877414: 717388 and 801906 -- 877414: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=877414 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
Bug#877414: systemd: please include a /var/log/README like Fedora has
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 10:30:32PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > There's already a bug for that. Let's block this bug accordingly Thank you! -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers
