Re: Gitlab merge workflow: reverse it?

2020-06-25 Thread Aleix Pol
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 7:49 PM David Edmundson
 wrote:
>> You have this button from commit page, not merge request page.
>>
>> https://i.imgur.com/9kgdpVy.png
>
>
> Found it, that's perfect thanks.
>
> That's also a useful feature in the current workflow.
> Seems you can cherry-pick a commit in a work/branch to a new merge request.
>
>>
>> If you use git cherry-pick with -x option, git automatically adds this
>> message in commit.
>
>
> That's handy. Clearly it's a common workflow then.
>
>>
>> >   - without making people commit locally into stable, could it encourage
>> > people to not test as much?
>>
>> I did not actually suggest using Web UI but using the git operation
>> locally. And in fairness either way we do end up with one bit where
>> thing is untested,
>
>
> It was the use of the web UI that I thought might encourage it, as then 
> you're not even changing branches locally to test things.
> You're right that changing the workflow doesn't necessarily mean changing 
> that.
>
> And yes, it's a problem already, which is why I don't want it getting worse!
>
> There's another advantage in this pattern we've not discussed yet. We can 
> commit something to master, test for a few days and only then decide to 
> cherry-pick to stable, that could potentially improve some things.

That last point is very important. Provided that it will compile for sure...

When Qt suggested doing this, it felt a bit weird but I guess it was
more fear of the unknown than anything else.

I'd say let's do this and see what happens.

The biggest con I find is that it will be harder to track where fixes
are. I do "git tag --contains commitid" quite often, but this will
replicate the commits to the different places so it will be less
useful. A small price to pay I guess.

Aleix


Re: Gitlab merge workflow: reverse it?

2020-06-25 Thread David Edmundson
> You have this button from commit page, not merge request page.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/9kgdpVy.png


Found it, that's perfect thanks.

That's also a useful feature in the current workflow.
Seems you can cherry-pick a commit in a work/branch to a new merge request.


> If you use git cherry-pick with -x option, git automatically adds this
> message in commit.
>

That's handy. Clearly it's a common workflow then.


> >   - without making people commit locally into stable, could it encourage
> > people to not test as much?
>
> I did not actually suggest using Web UI but using the git operation
> locally. And in fairness either way we do end up with one bit where
> thing is untested,
>

It was the use of the web UI that I thought might encourage it, as then
you're not even changing branches locally to test things.
You're right that changing the workflow doesn't necessarily mean changing
that.

And yes, it's a problem already, which is why I don't want it getting worse!

There's another advantage in this pattern we've not discussed yet. We can
commit something to master, test for a few days and only then decide to
cherry-pick to stable, that could potentially improve some things.

David


Re: Gitlab merge workflow: reverse it?

2020-06-25 Thread Bhushan Shah
Hello!

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 03:59:10PM +0100, David Edmundson wrote:
> Gitlab supposedly has a magic button for it just after a commit has landed
> in master.
> https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/merge_requests/cherry_pick_changes.html
> 
> Though I don't know how to trigger that in our UI.

You have this button from commit page, not merge request page.

https://i.imgur.com/9kgdpVy.png

> cherry-pick backwards.
> In principle I completely agree.
> 
> I have a few fears, which I hope are all addressable.
> 
>   - we need some reference to the real commit.
> 
> Qt adds
> "(cherry picked from commit 6de0287d7c3aa4251fe6eb4f970d73ce11cf07fc)"
> to the commit message automagically somehow in their workflow.

If you use git cherry-pick with -x option, git automatically adds this
message in commit.

>   - without making people commit locally into stable, could it encourage
> people to not test as much?

I did not actually suggest using Web UI but using the git operation
locally. And in fairness either way we do end up with one bit where
thing is untested,

Currently,

- Start with change in master -> should it go into stable? -> change
  branch -> accepted

This workflow does not gurantee that developer tested it before changing
target branch anyway.

> 
> > For now I am proposing this change only for Plasma repositories if we
> > like it, we can propose this workflow for rest of KDE repositories, but
> > that needs discussions in kde-devel/kde-core-devel separately.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> 
> I like consistency across KDE, otherwise it's very difficult for people who
> contribute in N places.
> We should at least email before we change, though we can still discuss
> things here first.

What I meant was, test-drive this for small amount of one or two plasma
repositories and if that works better, we can then ask people for
adapting changes across KDE giving example.

> 
> David

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Re: Gitlab merge workflow: reverse it?

2020-06-25 Thread David Edmundson
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Bhushan Shah  wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> This is a proposal to change our workflow regarding release branches and
> our merge workflow,
>
> # Current workflow
>
> - Current workflow is that we commit to stable branch and then merge it
>   upwords until master branch
> - i.e commit to Plasma/5.18 branch, merge 5.18 into 5.19 and then
>   master
>
> # Proposed workflow
>
> - Proposed workflow is to instead commit all changes in master, and
>   cherry-pick related changes in the stable branch as needed
>
>
Gitlab supposedly has a magic button for it just after a commit has landed
in master.
https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/merge_requests/cherry_pick_changes.html

Though I don't know how to trigger that in our UI.


> # Why?
>
> We occasionally hit several issues with current workflow,
>
> - Merge conflicts when merging changes upwords
> - Changes which are valid only for stable branch needs to be reverted in
>   master branches
> - Accidential merges from the master branch to stable branch which needs
>   to be force-pushed
>
> It's worth noting that Qt also recently changed to merge to dev,
cherry-pick backwards.
In principle I completely agree.

I have a few fears, which I hope are all addressable.

  - we need some reference to the real commit.

Qt adds
"(cherry picked from commit 6de0287d7c3aa4251fe6eb4f970d73ce11cf07fc)"
to the commit message automagically somehow in their workflow.

  - without making people commit locally into stable, could it encourage
people to not test as much?


> For now I am proposing this change only for Plasma repositories if we
> like it, we can propose this workflow for rest of KDE repositories, but
> that needs discussions in kde-devel/kde-core-devel separately.
>
> Thoughts?
>

I like consistency across KDE, otherwise it's very difficult for people who
contribute in N places.
We should at least email before we change, though we can still discuss
things here first.

David


Gitlab merge workflow: reverse it?

2020-06-25 Thread Bhushan Shah
Hello everyone!

This is a proposal to change our workflow regarding release branches and
our merge workflow,

# Current workflow

- Current workflow is that we commit to stable branch and then merge it
  upwords until master branch
- i.e commit to Plasma/5.18 branch, merge 5.18 into 5.19 and then
  master

# Proposed workflow

- Proposed workflow is to instead commit all changes in master, and
  cherry-pick related changes in the stable branch as needed

# Why?

We occasionally hit several issues with current workflow,

- Merge conflicts when merging changes upwords
- Changes which are valid only for stable branch needs to be reverted in
  master branches
- Accidential merges from the master branch to stable branch which needs
  to be force-pushed

For now I am proposing this change only for Plasma repositories if we
like it, we can propose this workflow for rest of KDE repositories, but
that needs discussions in kde-devel/kde-core-devel separately.

Thoughts?

-- 
Bhushan Shah
http://blog.bshah.in
IRC Nick : bshah on Freenode
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