[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-08-01 Thread Ukyoi
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

--- Comment #14 from Ukyoi uk...@msn.com ---
(In reply to Martin Klapetek from comment #13)
 Plasma 5.4 will bring much improved OSD, besides it getting smaller, the
 disappearing algorithm was also changed to be less annoying.

Thank you, Martin. The new OSD is nice.

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-07-27 Thread Martin Klapetek
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

Martin Klapetek mklape...@kde.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Version Fixed In||5.4.0
 Resolution|--- |FIXED
  Latest Commit||http://commits.kde.org/plas
   ||ma-workspace/3956cac47d2a15
   ||184b0ecb4ca84049b2ab6b1870
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #12 from Martin Klapetek mklape...@kde.org ---
Git commit 3956cac47d2a15184b0ecb4ca84049b2ab6b1870 by Martin Klapetek.
Committed on 27/07/2015 at 11:57.
Pushed by mklapetek into branch 'master'.

[osd] Make the osd 1/6th of a screen at most
FIXED-IN: 5.4.0

M  +1-1lookandfeel/contents/osd/OsdItem.qml

http://commits.kde.org/plasma-workspace/3956cac47d2a15184b0ecb4ca84049b2ab6b1870

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-07-27 Thread Martin Klapetek
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

--- Comment #13 from Martin Klapetek mklape...@kde.org ---
Plasma 5.4 will bring much improved OSD, besides it getting smaller, the
disappearing algorithm was also changed to be less annoying.

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-07-19 Thread Jens Reuterberg
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||j...@ohyran.se

--- Comment #11 from Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se ---
Since it can be fixed by creating a Plasma theme without it it seems there is
at least a short term solution. At the same time adding a new bit in System
Settings seems frivolous and risk overcluttering, and since its not an ordinary
widget it can't just use the Alternatives pop-up. 

On the other hand this is a good example of why a Plasma theme creator would be
such a great thing.

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-07-19 Thread Ukyoi
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

Ukyoi uk...@msn.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #9 from Ukyoi uk...@msn.com ---
I can confirm this... I'd rather call it a bug.

Maybe it's not so disturbing in a large screen. But I have a 12 inch screen
with 1280 by 720 resolution and it's my only display. When watching a video, I
need to pause first if I need to adjust the volume since the OSD blocks a major
(and even the most important) part of the space.

A friendly, large icon is nice when it doesn't interfere the normal workflow.
OSD is for visualizing the data (volume, brightness etc.). The icon is
relatively unimportant. So It's really appreciated that we can go back to the
old-fasioned KDE 4 way. Personally, I think moving it to the bottom right
corner is even better.

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-07-19 Thread Ukyoi
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

--- Comment #10 from Ukyoi uk...@msn.com ---
Created attachment 93647
  -- https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=93647action=edit
The disturbing OSD when watching a video.

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-05-04 Thread Martin Gräßlin
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

--- Comment #3 from Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org ---
What's the screen resolution? Might it be a virtual machine?

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-05-04 Thread Ivan Čukić
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

Ivan Čukić ivan.cu...@kde.org changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Ivan Čukić ivan.cu...@kde.org ---
@Martin It is like that for me - a normal desktop machine, no dpi setting
forced. I thought it was intentional. :)

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-05-04 Thread Martin Klapetek
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

Martin Klapetek mklape...@kde.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||mklape...@kde.org

--- Comment #5 from Martin Klapetek mklape...@kde.org ---
It's not entirely unintentional; it scales with font. If your base font size is
big, OSD is big (the base height is computed as pixel height of M * some
constant).

That said, the OSD is part of the look--feel package, allowing for easy
drop-in replacement of the visualized data. You can even change it yourself for
immediate effect for the time being - open
/usr/share/plasma/look-and-feel/org.kde.breeze.desktop/contents/osd/OsdItem.qml
in your favorite editor - edit the height line at the top and replace 15 with
3 and completely comment out the PlasmaCore.IconItem { .. } lines. That will
give you moreless the kde4 OSD.

Note: untested.

As for the actual size, could perhaps be made smaller, but it won't return to
the kde4 style one. That's what lf is for. Position will also not change, this
is however not easily settable (from the OSD pov, impossible even, because it's
placed by kwin directly).

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-05-04 Thread Myriam Schweingruber
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

--- Comment #6 from Myriam Schweingruber myr...@kde.org ---
Seriously, no way to place this elsewhere? That would be extremely annoying,
then. That was the nice thing in the KDE4 OSD, one could place it elsewhere,
actually in all corners, top and bottom middle as well.

Also asking plain users to edit the settings is something a bit over the top,
don't you think? We are supposed to be user friendly, and an intrusive and
oversized OSD is not exactly that...

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-05-04 Thread Martin Klapetek
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

--- Comment #7 from Martin Klapetek mklape...@kde.org ---
 That was the nice thing in the KDE4 OSD, one could place it elsewhere, 
 actually in all corners, top and bottom middle as well.

We never had that in KDE4, it was always hardcoded at the same position. See
for example this code from kmix from KDE4:

http://lxr.kde.org/source/kde/kdemultimedia/kmix/apps/kmix.cpp?v=stable-qt4#1178

Always hardcoded to the 4/5th of the screen height and middle of screen width.
Never reads config files.

 Also asking plain users to edit the settings is something a bit over the top, 
 don't you think? 

I did not write this in any official nor personal guide or any blogpost
targeted at plain users. I also did write You can even change it yourself for
immediate effect for the time being, ie. if you find it really really that
annoying, you can do this simple step to fix it in the meantime. That is how
it's supposed to be read. It's the best help I can give at this point and
therefore no, I don't think it's over the top.

 We are supposed to be user friendly, and an intrusive and oversized OSD is 
 not exactly that...

As I said, that's what lookfeel packages are for. It's very easy to change it
there and it's very easy to change the lookfeel that is used.

Besides, at no place I said we're not going to fix it.

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-05-04 Thread Myriam Schweingruber
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

--- Comment #8 from Myriam Schweingruber myr...@kde.org ---
Interesting, I never checked this in the code an wrongly assumed OSD was
provided by kdelibs in KDE4. The OSD we use in Amarok can be moved elsewhere on
the screen, but that is something we made ourselves apparently, leaving the
choice to the user to use the OSD or the notifications box.

Anyway, sorry if I misunderstood your statement about the editing, and nice to
hear this will be fixed :)

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-05-03 Thread Myriam Schweingruber
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

Myriam Schweingruber myr...@kde.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|wishlist|normal

--- Comment #2 from Myriam Schweingruber myr...@kde.org ---
Changing this to a bug: this would really drive me mad. This is totally
oversized, indeed.

Since I don't use Plasma5 yet: is it possible at least to have the OSD
somewhere else on the screen?

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[Breeze] [Bug 347123] OSD is distracting and annoying

2015-05-03 Thread Ondrej Machulda
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347123

--- Comment #1 from Ondrej Machulda ondrej.machu...@seznam.cz ---
Created attachment 92398
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Current size and distracting position of OSD

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