Re: About pastebin applet
On Thursday 28 Jan 2010 17:41:09 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: So, what do you think ? Pastebin turns into Share It! with a better architecture. I dream of a desktop where these kinds of sharing are all accessible in the same way: Sources: local files clipboard URLs Destinations: Paste into widgets Online paste/image/file bins Online galleries (flickr/picasa/...) Contacts (mail attachment, IM file xfer, bluetooth obex, zeroconf file xfer eg kepas[1]) 'Facebook Wall' (for URLs), digg On the face of it you would need a list of mimetypes that each destination would accept, config UI for destinations requiring registration, and a UI plugin to provide additional metadata needed (eg user name for *bins, url comment text for facebook wall, image title for galleries. For the heavyweight media like email and IM I assume the plugin would just call KMail or Kopete and tell them to open a message composer or file transfer window primed with the content to send, and let them use their existing UI to select the contact to send it to (I implemented the Send To-Contact function in KDE 3's kuick konqueror plugin and it was always a bit slow to fetch the list of online contacts in a slot connected to the context menu's aboutToShow() signal). You could then use this Share it! broker in a plasma drop widget, Klipper and Copy To... in file managers. So while you're rethinking things, go for the biggest picture, it's the KDE way! Will ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
About pastebin applet
Hello all, I've been thinking about a nice way to improve the current pastebin applet and it's dataengine/service. So I'll share my ideas with you and you can say whatever comes to your mind :) First of all, pastebin started as a plasmoid to just post text on pastebin.ca service. Willing to allow more than one server and at the same time don't change it to much (what actually happened looking backwards) I went to a simple and not elegant solution but that actually solved the issue and Sebas even gave some love to the UI to look better. Imagebin support came easily after this. However, besides have been elected one of the top plasmoid by linux magazine it actually sucks in terms of architecture. Last tokamak while one compilation or another of KDE for the mysterious device(TM) I tried to create a dataengine/service from the plasmoid code to make it better and even allow other plasmoids to make use of the service itself. Currently, in order to expand it making it support more services (each user on Earth seems to have it's preferred service) is painful. Most of the imagebin services are duplicating the http POST code got from KIPI plugins source code and to enable more services we need to recompile the whole thing and the support comes out on next KDE release. Here comes the new idea: rewrite it to be based on plugins (easily achievable) and change it's name to something more user friendly like Share It! or something else. Motivation: based on simple plugins we can provide stuff like GHNS for new services making it easier to expand it, rewrite the plasmoid code to use the new QStateMachine as it's basically a state machine, fix the dataengine/service code to provide one function for http POST based services so the plugins doesn't need to actually duplicate code and even make it work on different to avoid bugs of people pasting too much content at once (there is this bug where the user posted by mistake(?) a 12MB file and it froze plasma). Another clear motivation is how user friendly Pastebin is ? It's more of a share tool and people that actually don't know what pastebin means looses a good chance/tool to share their stuff. It would even make sense to create plugins for flickr and picasa for example (maybe using the already present KIPI plugins for that). So, what do you think ? Pastebin turns into Share It! with a better architecture. /me waiting for the no's and don't's now :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: About pastebin applet
On Thursday 28 January 2010 17:41:09 Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: Hello all, I've been thinking about a nice way to improve the current pastebin applet and it's dataengine/service. So I'll share my ideas with you and you can say whatever comes to your mind :) First of all, pastebin started as a plasmoid to just post text on pastebin.ca service. Willing to allow more than one server and at the same time don't change it to much (what actually happened looking backwards) I went to a simple and not elegant solution but that actually solved the issue and Sebas even gave some love to the UI to look better. Imagebin support came easily after this. However, besides have been elected one of the top plasmoid by linux magazine it actually sucks in terms of architecture. Last tokamak while one compilation or another of KDE for the mysterious device(TM) I tried to create a dataengine/service from the plasmoid code to make it better and even allow other plasmoids to make use of the service itself. Currently, in order to expand it making it support more services (each user on Earth seems to have it's preferred service) is painful. Most of the imagebin services are duplicating the http POST code got from KIPI plugins source code and to enable more services we need to recompile the whole thing and the support comes out on next KDE release. Here comes the new idea: rewrite it to be based on plugins (easily achievable) and change it's name to something more user friendly like Share It! or something else. Motivation: based on simple plugins we can provide stuff like GHNS for new services making it easier to expand it, rewrite the plasmoid code to use the new QStateMachine as it's basically a state machine, Yeah, the code actually already uses QStateMachine concepts, it was inspired by it (but QSM wasn't released at that point). :) fix the dataengine/service code to provide one function for http POST based services so the plugins doesn't need to actually duplicate code and even make it work on different to avoid bugs of people pasting too much content at once (there is this bug where the user posted by mistake(?) a 12MB file and it froze plasma). I assume you mean making those plugins scripts (Python, or something), otherwise sharing via GHNS can be pretty painful. Another clear motivation is how user friendly Pastebin is ? It's more of a share tool and people that actually don't know what pastebin means looses a good chance/tool to share their stuff. It would even make sense to create plugins for flickr and picasa for example (maybe using the already present KIPI plugins for that). So, what do you think ? Pastebin turns into Share It! with a better architecture. Sounds good. :) /me waiting for the no's and don't's now :) -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
