Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 9:38 AM David Edmundson
 wrote:
>
> We discussed this some more, and we are not in favour of moving
> forwards for Fedora:
>
> Reasons given were:
>  - It either cuts into our beta period, or causes us issues with
> framework releases.
>  - Fedora has regular releases anyway
> - It collides with the promo plans above
>  - .0 releases tend to not be a great UX anyway
>

The major issue (for us) with not pulling the Plasma 5.23 schedule[1]
up to align it better with the Fedora Linux 35 schedule[2] is that we
simply can't offer Plasma 5.23 during F35 Beta or F35 Final. A big
part of why I was comfortable with switching to Wayland by default[3]
for Fedora Linux 34 was that I was shipping the latest in-development
release at that time. Looking at the schedule now, we're basically
going to have to sit out of Plasma 5.23 like we did for Plasma 5.20
(we shipped Plasma 5.19.5 with Fedora Linux 33 GA and shipped Plasma
5.20 as an update a month later).

Ironically, this would be less of a problem if we weren't shipping
Wayland by default now... :P

At least it looks like the Plasma 5.23 Beta release is after the
branch period, so we can probably introduce it into Rawhide and
attempt to promote Rawhide during the beta period...

(As an aside, it seems weird to expect that .0 release to be bad...)

[1]: https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5
[2]: https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-35/f-35-key-tasks.html
[3]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefaultForPlasma



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Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-25 Thread David Edmundson
We discussed this some more, and we are not in favour of moving
forwards for Fedora:

Reasons given were:
 - It either cuts into our beta period, or causes us issues with
framework releases.
 - Fedora has regular releases anyway
- It collides with the promo plans above
 - .0 releases tend to not be a great UX anyway

David


Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Paul Brown
On Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:59:37 CEST Nate Graham wrote:
> Hello release folks!
> 
> Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've
> been talking with the Fedora packagers about this, and been informed
> that if we bump up the release by one week--shipping on 31
> September--then they can ship Plasma 5.23 in Fedora 35. Is this
> something we could consider doing?
> 
> Nate

Isn't Plasma 23rd scheduled for the 12th of October? That's what the calendar 
says. We also discussed pushing it back 2 days to make it coincide with KDE's 
25th anniversary (and renumbering it to "Plasma 5.25"):

https://phabricator.kde.org/T13198#255431

Would that not be possible?

Cheers

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Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Ianseeks
On Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:59:37 BST Nate Graham wrote:
> Hello release folks!
> 
> Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've 
> been talking with the Fedora packagers about this, and been informed 
> that if we bump up the release by one week--shipping on 31 
> September--then they can ship Plasma 5.23 in Fedora 35. Is this 
> something we could consider doing?
> 
> Nate
> 
31st September might be difficult  :)

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Re: Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Jonathan Riddell
Seems a friendly thing to do.  We can discuss it during the kickoff session
at akademy.

Jonathan


On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 14:59, Nate Graham  wrote:

> Hello release folks!
>
> Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've
> been talking with the Fedora packagers about this, and been informed
> that if we bump up the release by one week--shipping on 31
> September--then they can ship Plasma 5.23 in Fedora 35. Is this
> something we could consider doing?
>
> Nate
>


Can we consider bumping up the Plasma 5.23 release by one week?

2021-06-08 Thread Nate Graham

Hello release folks!

Plasma 5.23 is currently scheduled to be released on 7 October. I've 
been talking with the Fedora packagers about this, and been informed 
that if we bump up the release by one week--shipping on 31 
September--then they can ship Plasma 5.23 in Fedora 35. Is this 
something we could consider doing?


Nate