JJ: align these icons
someone adjusted the list thingy that the add-widgets and activity-manager UIs use so that it's prettier and shows the names on top. I like it :) but they missed something: the little icons that the activity manager draws on top (and, most likely, the corresponding click area for the stop button) haven't been shifted down to match the icon. http://chani.ca/sshots/icon-over-text.png anyone got time to fix that? :) everything just needs to be shifted down by however much the icon in the abstract class was shifted down. Although it does seem a bit funny to have the close button in what isn't quite the top-right corner any more... so... if anyone wants to prettify that too I'll be very happy :) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: JJ: align these icons
BTW, to add to this question, why is the applet background drawn now for the items in applet/activity browser!? On 19 July 2010 19:54, Chani wrote: > someone adjusted the list thingy that the add-widgets and activity-manager UIs > use so that it's prettier and shows the names on top. I like it :) but they > missed something: the little icons that the activity manager draws on top > (and, most likely, the corresponding click area for the stop button) haven't > been shifted down to match the icon. > > http://chani.ca/sshots/icon-over-text.png > > anyone got time to fix that? :) everything just needs to be shifted down by > however much the icon in the abstract class was shifted down. > Although it does seem a bit funny to have the close button in what isn't quite > the top-right corner any more... so... if anyone wants to prettify that too > I'll be very happy :) > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > -- While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words Dying to believe in what you heard I was staring straight into the shining sun ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: JJ: align these icons
On Monday 19 July 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > BTW, to add to this question, why is the applet background drawn now > for the items in applet/activity browser!? to give a bit of background on this. at akademy me, aaron and aurelien had a little discussion on how make the applet browser better (yes, see the thread a little ago on the old vs new applet browser) one of the reasons come up on why an horizontal strip /seems/ slower to read was that one has to scan with the eye the icons before the names, requiring more thinking, so it came up the solution of the title over the icon, so it's the first thing you see. at that point icons seemed completely detached to the text, so something to join them was needed. the applet background seemed a good choice since those icons represent indeed, applets. what i don't like about it at the moment is that the current item background is almost invisible and the overlays over the applet backgronds (the infamous squircles) make the think quite heavy. i'm thinking about using a more transparent version of the current item indicator (that is already present in the themes since ages, just not used) Cheers, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: JJ: align these icons
A Segunda, 19 de Julho de 2010 19:52:56 Marco Martin você escreveu: > On Monday 19 July 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > BTW, to add to this question, why is the applet background drawn now > > for the items in applet/activity browser!? > > to give a bit of background on this. > at akademy me, aaron and aurelien had a little discussion on how make the > applet browser better (yes, see the thread a little ago on the old vs new > applet browser) > > one of the reasons come up on why an horizontal strip /seems/ slower to > read was that one has to scan with the eye the icons before the names, > requiring more thinking, so it came up the solution of the title over the > icon, so it's the first thing you see. > at that point icons seemed completely detached to the text, so something to > join them was needed. the applet background seemed a good choice since > those icons represent indeed, applets. > > what i don't like about it at the moment is that the current item > background is almost invisible and the overlays over the applet backgronds > (the infamous squircles) make the think quite heavy. > i'm thinking about using a more transparent version of the current item > indicator (that is already present in the themes since ages, just not used) that's the problem you never get a good connection between a text bit and a icon bit because different areas of your brain take care of it, text is for readability well icons is for recognition meaning after you read and make the association between the text and the image, you stop reading all together cuse you recognize the image faster than you read the text. another reason for using maybe less abstract representational images the don't help much on the recognition part. -- oxygen guy, "I make the pretty pictures" ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: JJ: align these icons
A Segunda, 19 de Julho de 2010 19:52:56 Marco Martin você escreveu: > On Monday 19 July 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > BTW, to add to this question, why is the applet background drawn now > > for the items in applet/activity browser!? > > to give a bit of background on this. > at akademy me, aaron and aurelien had a little discussion on how make the > applet browser better (yes, see the thread a little ago on the old vs new > applet browser) > > one of the reasons come up on why an horizontal strip /seems/ slower to > read was that one has to scan with the eye the icons before the names, > requiring more thinking, so it came up the solution of the title over the > icon, so it's the first thing you see. > at that point icons seemed completely detached to the text, so something to > join them was needed. the applet background seemed a good choice since > those icons represent indeed, applets. > > what i don't like about it at the moment is that the current item > background is almost invisible and the overlays over the applet backgronds > (the infamous squircles) make the think quite heavy. > i'm thinking about using a more transparent version of the current item > indicator (that is already present in the themes since ages, just not used) > > Cheers, > Marco Martin > ___ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel that's the problem you never get a good connection between a text bit and a icon bit because different areas of your brain take care of it, text is for readability well icons is for recognition meaning after you read and make the association between the text and the image, you stop reading all together cuse you recognize the image faster than you read the text. another reason for using maybe less abstract representational images the don't help much on the recognition part -- Nuno Pinheiro | nuno.pinhe...@kdab.com | UI Designer Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company KDAB - Qt Experts - Platform-independent software solutions ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: JJ: align these icons
On July 19, 2010, Chani wrote: > someone adjusted the list thingy that the add-widgets and activity-manager > UIs use so that it's prettier and shows the names on top. I like it :) but > they missed something: the little icons that the activity manager draws on > top (and, most likely, the corresponding click area for the stop button) > haven't been shifted down to match the icon. > > http://chani.ca/sshots/icon-over-text.png yes, needs to be fixed. my fault. i'll take a gander when i have some time... -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: JJ: align these icons
> at that point icons seemed completely detached to the text, so something to > join them was needed. the applet background seemed a good choice since > those icons represent indeed, applets. >From my POV, it would be better to introduce a new svg than to use the applet background. It is like if we decided to use applback for the tasks in the task manager - it is just not meant for that. The strangest thing is that now the item selection rectangle (the hover background thingie) is much slimmer than the normal background. And another problem is that one thing moves, while the other one doesn't -- While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words Dying to believe in what you heard I was staring straight into the shining sun ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: JJ: align these icons
On July 19, 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > at that point icons seemed completely detached to the text, so something > > to join them was needed. the applet background seemed a good choice > > since those icons represent indeed, applets. > > > >From my POV, it would be better to introduce a new svg than to use the > > applet background. It is like if we decided to use applback for the > tasks in the task manager - it is just not meant for that. > > The strangest thing is that now the item selection rectangle (the > hover background thingie) is much slimmer than the normal background. yes, the selection item needs to be rethought here ... however: > And another problem is that one thing moves, while the other one > doesn't that's not really a problem imho -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: JJ: align these icons
On July 19, 2010 14:35:21 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On July 19, 2010, Chani wrote: > > someone adjusted the list thingy that the add-widgets and > > activity-manager UIs use so that it's prettier and shows the names on > > top. I like it :) but they missed something: the little icons that the > > activity manager draws on top (and, most likely, the corresponding click > > area for the stop button) haven't been shifted down to match the icon. > > > > http://chani.ca/sshots/icon-over-text.png > > yes, needs to be fixed. my fault. i'll take a gander when i have some > time... *coughs* if anyone else has time, please don't hesitate to fix this. :) the release is coming soon and it'd really suck to have such an obvious glitch in it. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: JJ: align these icons
On July 26, 2010, Chani wrote: > if anyone else has time, please don't hesitate to fix this. :) the release > is coming soon and it'd really suck to have such an obvious glitch in it. erm ... these changes should be all trunk-only. this is 4.6 work, and shouldn't be touching anything in 4.5. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
