Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

[Jonathan Riddell]

It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed.

It's discussed here that "The built-in keyboard was dropped in 5.20 in
favor of external virtual keyboards."
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427972

And of course users on tablet style machines

So should we have maliit installed by default?  Should this be added as a
cmake runtime check somewhere?  Should distros be told?  It doesn't seem to
be a lot of distros looking at repology
https://repology.org/project/maliit-keyboard/versions

Jonathan

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

[Jonathan Riddell]

Is this page obsolete now we have the kwin virtual keyboard kcm?
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/wikis/Virtual-Keyboard

Jonathan


On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 19:17, Jonathan Riddell  wrote:

> It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed.
>
> It's discussed here that "The built-in keyboard was dropped in 5.20 in
> favor of external virtual keyboards."
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427972
>
> And of course users on tablet style machines
>
> So should we have maliit installed by default?  Should this be added as a
> cmake runtime check somewhere?  Should distros be told?  It doesn't seem to
> be a lot of distros looking at repology
> https://repology.org/project/maliit-keyboard/versions
>
> Jonathan
>
>

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

[Nicolas Fella]

Hi,

On 24/06/2021 20:17, Jonathan Riddell wrote:

It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed.


Technically speaking it does not expect Maliit, any keyboard
implementing the required Wayland protocol will do. Maliit happens to be
the one we tend to test and it's what we ship on Plasma Mobile, so it
would be my default recommendation.



It's discussed here that "The built-in keyboard was dropped in 5.20 in
favor of external virtual keyboards."
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427972


And of course users on tablet style machines

So should we have maliit installed by default?


Yes


  Should this be added as a cmake runtime check somewhere?


That's a bit harder to answer since technically any compliant keyboard
will do


  Should distros be told?  It doesn't seem to be a lot of distros
looking at repology
https://repology.org/project/maliit-keyboard/versions



yes.

> Is this page obsolete now we have the kwin virtual keyboard
kcm?https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/wikis/Virtual-Keyboard


The information is still accurate, it's how the KCM works under the
hood. It's just not as relevant any more as it used to be.



Jonathan


Cheers

Nico

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

[Jonathan Riddell]

Great thanks.

Someone should tell the distros to ship it then, unless I missed that.

Jonathan


On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 20:21, Nicolas Fella  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 24/06/2021 20:17, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed.
>
> Technically speaking it does not expect Maliit, any keyboard
> implementing the required Wayland protocol will do. Maliit happens to be
> the one we tend to test and it's what we ship on Plasma Mobile, so it
> would be my default recommendation.
>
> >
> > It's discussed here that "The built-in keyboard was dropped in 5.20 in
> > favor of external virtual keyboards."
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427972
> > 
> >
> > And of course users on tablet style machines
> >
> > So should we have maliit installed by default?
>
> Yes
>
> >   Should this be added as a cmake runtime check somewhere?
>
> That's a bit harder to answer since technically any compliant keyboard
> will do
>
> >   Should distros be told?  It doesn't seem to be a lot of distros
> > looking at repology
> > https://repology.org/project/maliit-keyboard/versions
> > 
>
> yes.
>
>  > Is this page obsolete now we have the kwin virtual keyboard
> kcm?https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/wikis/Virtual-Keyboard
> 
>
> The information is still accurate, it's how the KCM works under the
> hood. It's just not as relevant any more as it used to be.
>
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> Cheers
>
> Nico
>
>

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

[Nate Graham]

Indeed, I know it is missing in at least openSUSE TW and Fedora. See:
- https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1184014
- https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issue/90

Nate


On 6/24/21 3:42 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:

Great thanks.

Someone should tell the distros to ship it then, unless I missed that.

Jonathan


On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 20:21, Nicolas Fella > wrote:


Hi,

On 24/06/2021 20:17, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
 > It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed.

Technically speaking it does not expect Maliit, any keyboard
implementing the required Wayland protocol will do. Maliit happens to be
the one we tend to test and it's what we ship on Plasma Mobile, so it
would be my default recommendation.

 >
 > It's discussed here that "The built-in keyboard was dropped in
5.20 in
 > favor of external virtual keyboards."
 > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427972

 > >
 >
 > And of course users on tablet style machines
 >
 > So should we have maliit installed by default?

Yes

 >   Should this be added as a cmake runtime check somewhere?

That's a bit harder to answer since technically any compliant keyboard
will do

 >   Should distros be told?  It doesn't seem to be a lot of distros
 > looking at repology
 > https://repology.org/project/maliit-keyboard/versions

 > >

yes.

  > Is this page obsolete now we have the kwin virtual keyboard
kcm?https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/wikis/Virtual-Keyboard

>

The information is still accurate, it's how the KCM works under the
hood. It's just not as relevant any more as it used to be.

 >
 > Jonathan
 >
Cheers

Nico

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

[Aleix Pol]

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:17 PM Jonathan Riddell  wrote:
>
> It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed.
>
> It's discussed here that "The built-in keyboard was dropped in 5.20 in favor 
> of external virtual keyboards."
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427972
>
> And of course users on tablet style machines
>
> So should we have maliit installed by default?  Should this be added as a 
> cmake runtime check somewhere?  Should distros be told?  It doesn't seem to 
> be a lot of distros looking at repology
> https://repology.org/project/maliit-keyboard/versions
>
> Jonathan
>

As of this merge request, maliit wasn't even installable from Discover
since it wasn't providing appstream information. It's available now
(or it will be when they release).
https://github.com/maliit/keyboard/pull/46

That said, shipping it by default would be nice.

Aleix

Re: Maliit Keyboard and Plasma

[Aleix Pol]

I sent an e-mail to kde-distro-packag...@kde.org. Hopefully they'll
pick up on that. :)

Thanks Jonathan!


Aleix

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 9:43 PM Jonathan Riddell  wrote:
>
> Great thanks.
>
> Someone should tell the distros to ship it then, unless I missed that.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 20:21, Nicolas Fella  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 24/06/2021 20:17, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>> > It's unclear to me if Plasma expects or needs Maliit to be installed.
>>
>> Technically speaking it does not expect Maliit, any keyboard
>> implementing the required Wayland protocol will do. Maliit happens to be
>> the one we tend to test and it's what we ship on Plasma Mobile, so it
>> would be my default recommendation.
>>
>> >
>> > It's discussed here that "The built-in keyboard was dropped in 5.20 in
>> > favor of external virtual keyboards."
>> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427972
>> > 
>> >
>> > And of course users on tablet style machines
>> >
>> > So should we have maliit installed by default?
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> >   Should this be added as a cmake runtime check somewhere?
>>
>> That's a bit harder to answer since technically any compliant keyboard
>> will do
>>
>> >   Should distros be told?  It doesn't seem to be a lot of distros
>> > looking at repology
>> > https://repology.org/project/maliit-keyboard/versions
>> > 
>>
>> yes.
>>
>>  > Is this page obsolete now we have the kwin virtual keyboard
>> kcm?https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/wikis/Virtual-Keyboard
>> 
>>
>> The information is still accurate, it's how the KCM works under the
>> hood. It's just not as relevant any more as it used to be.
>>
>> >
>> > Jonathan
>> >
>> Cheers
>>
>> Nico
>>