Re: Plasma 5.7 Test Days prep meeting #2 notes & log

[Luca Beltrame]

Il 19 aprile 2016 14:10:56 CEST, Eike Hein  ha scritto:

>- No comm yet with other distros
>- einar77 may be able to interface with openSUSE for us

Thanks for poking me - the ISOs were stuck due to a packaging hiccup. I can say 
that we'll be able to provide test ISOs. I put links to them in the wiki as 
well (Riddell poked me on IRC about them).

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Re: Plasma 5.7 Test Days prep meeting #2 notes & log

[Eike Hein]

On 04/19/2016 09:38 PM, Luca Beltrame wrote:

I surely can - sorry for missing this, one of my thesis students is defending 
today. ;)


Yay!


Cheers,
Eike
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Plasma 5.7 Test Days prep meeting #2 notes & log

[Eike Hein]

attendees: eike, jensreu, bshah, d_ed, riddell, kbroulik, notmart, 
sitter, mgraesslin

chair: eike

(a) ISOs for testing
- Riddell from Neon promises to get us test ISOs in time for test days, 
will poke him well ahead of time to plan more

- No comm yet with other distros
- einar77 may be able to interface with openSUSE for us

(b) Test cases
- Jens wrote down some ideas, currently on the etherpad 
(https://notes.kde.org/p/plasma-57-testday)
- d_ed ran some tests as part of GCI, his testcases can be found at: 
https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Quality/Beta/4.10/Plasma

- Jens will bring of some ideas into d_ed's format for next week's meeting
- Bhushan will add some desktop/panel related test cases
- Discussed splitting tests into seperate lists for VM vs. live USB vs. 
hdd install to account for environmental conditions and what sort of 
persistence support there is
- Decided to limit ourselves to test cases assuming clean config (fresh 
ISO boot / new user) for now to keep complexity low
- Decided to keep the number as well areas of test cases small for now; 
we still need to learn how many we can handle during Test Days
- Decided to focus test cases on core desktop shell (panels, launchers, 
desktop, task management, window management, related config)

- Decided to avoid writing test cases involving kdeplasma-addons for now
- Eike will look into writing locale-specific test cases later

(c) Dates
- Pondered rescheduling test days due to conflict with Randa sprint 
ending on the 19th and people being tired or travelling
- Not much wiggle room to move, scheduled dates (June 19th/20th) are 
soon after beta (16th) and soon before final release (30th)

- Core Test Days team (bshah, jensreu, eike) not impacted by Randa
- Decided not to reschedule
- Next prep meeting Tuesday 12:00 UTC in #plasma

--- snip ---

Previous week's notes: 
https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2016-April/051776.html



Cheers,
Eike
[19:30]  bshah, jensreeuu: ping, meeting time
[19:30]  my tea is coming soon... but o/
[19:30]  pongity!
[19:30]  ok, this is the second prep meeting for the upcoming plasma 5.7 
test days
[19:30]  pong too
[19:31]  for recap, this is last week's notes: 
https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2016-April/051776.html
[19:31]  I've added to them Sho_
[19:31]  For this week
[19:31]  and this is our meeting etherpad: 
https://notes.kde.org/p/plasma-57-testday
[19:31]  i have three agenda points i'm aware of for today:
[19:31]  - check on progress re distro communication re isos
[19:31]  I have two I havent done at all though
[19:31]  - discuss sample test cases if we have any yet
[19:31]  Ah
[19:31]  - someone suggested we might want to change the test days date 
due to conflicting with randa schedule-wise
[19:32]  I wrote some for Plasma 4.9/4.10 for some bug days I used to 
run:  https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Quality/Beta/4.10/Plasma
[19:32]  kbroulik: published! 
https://dot.kde.org/kde-augsburger-linux-tag (well be on front page when cache 
clears)
[19:32]  let's go through the agenda point by point, so first would be 
the ISO stuff
[19:32]  d_ed: MAN your testcases are wy more well done than my 
wild scribbles
[19:32]  Yesd
[19:33]  jensreeuu: have you had any time to talk to any of the distros 
you listed last time? (kaos, opensuse, fedora, neon)
[19:33]  Well I haven't talked to the distro people yet, so not much 
reply.
[19:33]  Kaos, an email, fedora an email - Neon well Riddell?
[19:33] * Sho_ looks too Riddell as well
[19:33]  Someone else need to take Opensuse though
[19:34] <-- JunkHunk (~i...@203.red-83-54-4.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) has left 
this server (Quit: Saliendo).
[19:34]  on the opensuse front we can try to rope einar77_work into 
interfacing for us
[19:34] * Riddell looks around
[19:34] *** ochurlaud is now known as ochurlaud--away.
[19:34]  Hello! Do you wanna have neon used as a testbase for the 
bug testing in June Riddell?
[19:34]  Riddell: if we do plasma 5.7 test days on June 19th and 20th (or 
around that time in case we move them a bit), can we work with Neon to get us 
ISO images with testable git code in time?
[19:34]  jensreeuu: it would be an honour
[19:35]  Riddell: <3
[19:35]  Riddell: sucha  gentleman :)
[19:35]  Sho_: yes indeed
[19:35]  Riddell: last time i checked though neon was a repo people add 
to a kubuntu or something, are there actual ISOs with fresh coden ow?
[19:35]  (apologies i am totally and miserably out of loop)
[19:35]  Sho_: certainly are http://files.kde.org/neon/
[19:35]  (i am a mere code monkey)
[19:35]  awesome
[19:36]  and user edition ones (released tars) still hidden away at 
http://images.neon.kde.org/neon-useredition-proposed/
[19:36]  With Kaos I have yet to get a reply, and with Fedora I dont 
know if my nagging contacts worked
[19:36]  that means we have at least one testing ISO locked in
[19:36] --> mgraesslin (~martin@kde/mgraesslin) has joined this channel.
[19:36]  Riddell: we'll poke you well ahead of