Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Onur-Hayri Bakici]

On 24.02.2011 22:07, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Thursday 24 February 2011, Onur-Hayri Bakici wrote:
>>> absolutely!
>>> this is another thing i would love seeing it get going.
>>> it kinda depends the underlying thing being finally a bit working and
>>> stable instead of continuously drifting away
>> What do you suggest for expanding? More plugins?
>>
> well, to me what matters now is to make work those we have on the data and ui
> side, to have something demo-able in a good way ;)
>
> Cheers,
Do you have any specific task I should consider as a reference point? I 
want to continue on that, however I am not sure where to begin so that I 
can think about it.

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Marco Martin]

On Thursday 24 February 2011, Onur-Hayri Bakici wrote:
> > absolutely!
> > this is another thing i would love seeing it get going.
> > it kinda depends the underlying thing being finally a bit working and
> > stable instead of continuously drifting away
> 
> What do you suggest for expanding? More plugins?
> 

well, to me what matters now is to make work those we have on the data and ui 
side, to have something demo-able in a good way ;)

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Onur-Hayri Bakici]

On 10.02.2011 13:59, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Onur-Hayri Bakici wrote:
>> On 08.02.2011 23:40, Marco Martin wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 08 February 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
> I've found the techbase-page
> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center  and a
> gitorious projecthttp://gitorious.org/plasma-media-center  that hasn't
> been updated for quite sometime.
 for everybody that wants to do a gsoc: put it in the wiki NOW as lidya
 just wrote :p
 http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Plasma
>>> I added one on mediacenter: if someone has different ideas, please don't
>>> hesitate to add a different one or even modify a lot that one
>> To your idea of PMC in GSoC: It would be also cool to integrate the
>> online media provider services into the GUI as well.
>> I am still planning to enhance my GSoC project from last year :)
> absolutely!
> this is another thing i would love seeing it get going.
> it kinda depends the underlying thing being finally a bit working and stable
> instead of continuously drifting away
What do you suggest for expanding? More plugins?

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Lukas Appelhans]

Am Montag, 14. Februar 2011, 23:31:11 schrieb Morten A. B. Sjøgren:
> Hey,
> 
> Last week in #plasma-mediacenter we talked about creating a video widget
> using phonon and a two window solution.
> I don't think we need the two window solution, since phonon has a
> videowidget we can use.
> 
> Phonon::VideoWidget classPhonon_1_1VideoWidget.html>inherits from QWidget and can be used as
> one and it can be sent into
> fullscreen mode with a simple call to
> enterFullScreen sPhonon_1_1VideoWidget.html#a22da83ea46469651d740537d5d5dbb05>(). In
> fullscreen mode we should be able to put control widgets without the
> need for a separate window.
> 
> I'd like to talk again over IRC again on of these days. What about
> Wednesday evening about 10pm or 11pm GMT+1? I'll try to be online earlier
> if needed.
Hey!

I think Wednesday 10pm would be even doable for me :) (if I don't forget about 
it :D)

I think I read about some phonon-qml stuff a bit back in time, that's what we 
should use in the end...

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Morten A . B . Sjøgren]

Hey,

Last week in #plasma-mediacenter we talked about creating a video widget
using phonon and a two window solution.
I don't think we need the two window solution, since phonon has a
videowidget we can use.

Phonon::VideoWidgetinherits
from QWidget and can be used as one and it can be sent into
fullscreen mode with a simple call to
enterFullScreen().
In fullscreen mode we should be able to put control widgets without
the
need for a separate window.

I'd like to talk again over IRC again on of these days. What about Wednesday
evening about 10pm or 11pm GMT+1? I'll try to be online earlier if needed.

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Marco Martin]

Good news everybody!(tm)

this is its new home:
https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/multimedia/plasma-mediacenter

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Onur-Hayri Bakici]

On 10.02.2011 13:59, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Onur-Hayri Bakici wrote:
>> On 08.02.2011 23:40, Marco Martin wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 08 February 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
> I've found the techbase-page
> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center  and a
> gitorious projecthttp://gitorious.org/plasma-media-center  that hasn't
> been updated for quite sometime.
 for everybody that wants to do a gsoc: put it in the wiki NOW as lidya
 just wrote :p
 http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Plasma
>>> I added one on mediacenter: if someone has different ideas, please don't
>>> hesitate to add a different one or even modify a lot that one
>> To your idea of PMC in GSoC: It would be also cool to integrate the
>> online media provider services into the GUI as well.
>> I am still planning to enhance my GSoC project from last year :)
> absolutely!
> this is another thing i would love seeing it get going.
> it kinda depends the underlying thing being finally a bit working and stable
> instead of continuously drifting away
Yeah, you're right. It really has been neglected. I'll try to finish it 
up until the student starts his/her GSoC project.

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Marco Martin]

On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Onur-Hayri Bakici wrote:
> On 08.02.2011 23:40, Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 February 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
> >>> I've found the techbase-page
> >>> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center  and a
> >>> gitorious projecthttp://gitorious.org/plasma-media-center  that hasn't
> >>> been updated for quite sometime.
> >> 
> >> for everybody that wants to do a gsoc: put it in the wiki NOW as lidya
> >> just wrote :p
> >> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Plasma
> > 
> > I added one on mediacenter: if someone has different ideas, please don't
> > hesitate to add a different one or even modify a lot that one
> 
> To your idea of PMC in GSoC: It would be also cool to integrate the
> online media provider services into the GUI as well.
> I am still planning to enhance my GSoC project from last year :)

absolutely!
this is another thing i would love seeing it get going.
it kinda depends the underlying thing being finally a bit working and stable 
instead of continuously drifting away

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Onur-Hayri Bakici]

On 08.02.2011 23:40, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 February 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
>>> I've found the techbase-page
>>> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center  and a
>>> gitorious projecthttp://gitorious.org/plasma-media-center  that hasn't
>>> been updated for quite sometime.
>> for everybody that wants to do a gsoc: put it in the wiki NOW as lidya just
>> wrote :p
>> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Plasma
>>
> I added one on mediacenter: if someone has different ideas, please don't
> hesitate to add a different one or even modify a lot that one

To your idea of PMC in GSoC: It would be also cool to integrate the 
online media provider services into the GUI as well.
I am still planning to enhance my GSoC project from last year :)


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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Marco Martin]

On Monday 07 February 2011, Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> 
> Hey!
> 
> Tested and there is a small problem... org.kde.PlaylistEngine.xml this file
> didn't get imported... (and possibly others similar as well...)
> 
> Except that the history looks fine I think...
> 

can you try it again?

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Christopher Blauvelt]

Thanks Marco.
On Feb 8, 2011 5:40 PM, "Marco Martin"  wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 February 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
>> > I've found the techbase-page
>> > http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center and a
>> > gitorious project http://gitorious.org/plasma-media-center that hasn't
>> > been updated for quite sometime.
>>
>> for everybody that wants to do a gsoc: put it in the wiki NOW as lidya
just
>> wrote :p
>> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Plasma
>>
>
> I added one on mediacenter: if someone has different ideas, please don't
> hesitate to add a different one or even modify a lot that one
>
> Cheers,
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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Marco Martin]

On Tuesday 08 February 2011, Marco Martin wrote:
> > I've found the techbase-page
> > http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center and a
> > gitorious project http://gitorious.org/plasma-media-center that hasn't
> > been updated for quite sometime.
> 
> for everybody that wants to do a gsoc: put it in the wiki NOW as lidya just
> wrote :p
> http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Plasma
> 

I added one on mediacenter: if someone has different ideas, please don't 
hesitate to add a different one or even modify a lot that one

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Marco Martin]

On Sunday 06 February 2011, Morten A. B. Sjøgren wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Sometime ago I read about a plasma mediacenter project, but I haven't heard
> anything about it for a long time.
> I'm interested in such a project and have thought about getting involved in
> a open source project for a long time.
> 
> So I wanted to hear if there is still life in this project. Where I can
> find some more information about it? And who I might talk to about the
> project?
> 
> I've found the techbase-page
> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center and a gitorious
> project http://gitorious.org/plasma-media-center that hasn't been updated
> for quite sometime.

for everybody that wants to do a gsoc: put it in the wiki NOW as lidya just 
wrote :p
http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Plasma

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Onur-Hayri Bakici]

> Hey Chris,
> 
> My TZ is GMT+1, I will  try to be on IRC late tomorrow (monday) evening
> around 23:00/11pm (GMT+1). My nick will be m_abs.
> It can't be too late during the workdays.
> 
> Your building blocks looks like a reasonable starting point to me.
> Personally the picture viewer isn't important to me, but I can see how it's
> needed.
> 
> One thing I think would be a good idea is to talk about what other
> mediacenter-software do well and what they do that is not so good. I've
> mostly experience with XBMC, which is the system I'm using at the moment.
> I know most of it will come much later after the basic building blocks are
> in place, but it might give some directions.
> 
> -
> Morten

This sounds great. I will be there too, at 11.00 pm on #plasma-mediacenter. My 
nick is thehayro. 

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Marco Martin]

On Monday 07 February 2011, Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> Am Montag, 7. Februar 2011, 09:55:06 schrieb Marco Martin:
> > On Sunday 06 February 2011, Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> > > Speaking about git, Marco will try to move it over there soon hopefully
> > > 
> > > :) Until then we can work in SVN of course!
> > 
> > here it is:
> > http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=scratch%2Fmart%2Fplasma-mediacenter.g
> > it
> > 
> > if somebody can do a quick test, then i'll ask it to be moved in
> > playground
> 
> Hey!
> 
> Tested and there is a small problem... org.kde.PlaylistEngine.xml this file
> didn't get imported... (and possibly others similar as well...)
> 
> Except that the history looks fine I think...
> 
> Lukas
> 

argh, now that i think about the playlist was moved from somewhere else 
probably

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Lukas Appelhans]

Am Montag, 7. Februar 2011, 09:55:06 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Sunday 06 February 2011, Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> > Speaking about git, Marco will try to move it over there soon hopefully
> > :) Until then we can work in SVN of course!
> 
> here it is:
> http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=scratch%2Fmart%2Fplasma-mediacenter.git
> 
> if somebody can do a quick test, then i'll ask it to be moved in playground
Hey!

Tested and there is a small problem... org.kde.PlaylistEngine.xml this file 
didn't get imported... (and possibly others similar as well...)

Except that the history looks fine I think...

Lukas
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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

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On Sunday 06 February 2011, Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> 
> Speaking about git, Marco will try to move it over there soon hopefully :)
> Until then we can work in SVN of course!
> 
here it is:
http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=scratch%2Fmart%2Fplasma-mediacenter.git

if somebody can do a quick test, then i'll ask it to be moved in playground

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Morten A . B . Sjøgren]

2011/2/6 Christopher Blauvelt 

>
> best channel is the mailing lst here,
>> #plasma and #plasma-mediacenter irc chnnels on freenode
>> and there are a couple of people interested of getting it bck in
>> development,
>> i hope they will speak up in this thread, but anyways I'll get them in
>> contact
>> with you :)
>>
>>
> I was looking at doing this as a GSoC.  I've actually spent my weekend
> getting a development environment ready to get started.  My goals for 0.1
> release of the project are:
>  - Develop a video widget that has composited controls and can handle full
> 1080p video well with a reasonably powered system.  What reasonably powered
> is will have to be determined.
>  - Develop a picture viewer that can show pictures while designing for
> future effects.
>  - Develop a music player that plays music.  Nothing fancy . . . yet.
>  - Develop a media browser to start playing video/music or start showing
> pictures.
>  - Develop a UI that is based on QML and QtComponent whenever practical.
>
> Notice how I'm starting with the building blocks and working my way to
> other, more complicated things.  I think one of the big problems we had last
> year (with no shots being taken at anyone) was there was a lot of excitement
> but not enough direction and we need to start with the foundation before we
> can start on the ornamental roof.
>
> My TZ is GMT-5 so if you want to get together on IRC #plasma-mediacenter
> sometime this week let me know.  I might be available today but . . . it's
> the super bowl[1] so no promises.
>
> Chris
>

Hey Chris,

My TZ is GMT+1, I will  try to be on IRC late tomorrow (monday) evening
around 23:00/11pm (GMT+1). My nick will be m_abs.
It can't be too late during the workdays.

Your building blocks looks like a reasonable starting point to me.
Personally the picture viewer isn't important to me, but I can see how it's
needed.

One thing I think would be a good idea is to talk about what other
mediacenter-software do well and what they do that is not so good. I've
mostly experience with XBMC, which is the system I'm using at the moment.
I know most of it will come much later after the basic building blocks are
in place, but it might give some directions.

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Christopher Blauvelt]

> best channel is the mailing lst here,
> #plasma and #plasma-mediacenter irc chnnels on freenode
> and there are a couple of people interested of getting it bck in
> development,
> i hope they will speak up in this thread, but anyways I'll get them in
> contact
> with you :)
>
>
I was looking at doing this as a GSoC.  I've actually spent my weekend
getting a development environment ready to get started.  My goals for 0.1
release of the project are:
 - Develop a video widget that has composited controls and can handle full
1080p video well with a reasonably powered system.  What reasonably powered
is will have to be determined.
 - Develop a picture viewer that can show pictures while designing for
future effects.
 - Develop a music player that plays music.  Nothing fancy . . . yet.
 - Develop a media browser to start playing video/music or start showing
pictures.
 - Develop a UI that is based on QML and QtComponent whenever practical.

Notice how I'm starting with the building blocks and working my way to
other, more complicated things.  I think one of the big problems we had last
year (with no shots being taken at anyone) was there was a lot of excitement
but not enough direction and we need to start with the foundation before we
can start on the ornamental roof.

My TZ is GMT-5 so if you want to get together on IRC #plasma-mediacenter
sometime this week let me know.  I might be available today but . . . it's
the super bowl[1] so no promises.

Chris

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Marco Martin]

On Sunday 06 February 2011, Morten A. B. Sjøgren wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Sometime ago I read about a plasma mediacenter project, but I haven't heard
> anything about it for a long time.
> I'm interested in such a project and have thought about getting involved in
> a open source project for a long time.

this would be awesome :)
you can try starting to get stuff built, then any question you have just drop 
us a line

> So I wanted to hear if there is still life in this project. Where I can
> find some more information about it? And who I might talk to about the
> project?

best channel is the mailing lst here,
#plasma and #plasma-mediacenter irc chnnels on freenode
and there are a couple of people interested of getting it bck in development, 
i hope they will speak up in this thread, but anyways I'll get them in contact 
with you :)

> I've found the techbase-page
> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center and a gitorious
> project http://gitorious.org/plasma-media-center that hasn't been updated
> for quite sometime.
i think the gitorious one was a gsoc project later imported in svn
main repository is still in svn playground.
I will see if i can get it converted to git shortly

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Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

[Lukas Appelhans]

Hey!

Thanks for your interest :)

Am Sonntag, 6. Februar 2011, 14:56:42 schrieb Morten A. B. Sjøgren:
> Hey,
> 
> Sometime ago I read about a plasma mediacenter project, but I haven't heard
> anything about it for a long time.
> I'm interested in such a project and have thought about getting involved in
> a open source project for a long time.
Great! :) Yeah it kinda disappeared since Alessandro is busy with 
university... (I did some small stuff during CodeIn for it...)
> 
> So I wanted to hear if there is still life in this project. Where I can
> find some more information about it? And who I might talk to about the
> project?
Alessandro is usually the one, but since he is busy I can try to help :) We 
definitely want this project to continue... (just shoot any question you might 
have and I will check :))
> 
> I've found the techbase-page
> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center and a gitorious
> project http://gitorious.org/plasma-media-center that hasn't been updated
> for quite sometime.
The techbase page seems to contain random ideas/concepts for it, whereas the 
gitorious is unofficial... 

Speaking about git, Marco will try to move it over there soon hopefully :) 
Until then we can work in SVN of course!

Lukas

PS: To get the project further moving I will try to get myself working on it 
during GSoC...
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