Re: QML widget explorer
On Sunday 01 January 2012, Martin Gräßlin wrote: * Yeah scrolling would be nice :-) Also the missing flickable behavior surprised me, though it is clear that it cannot work when there is a drag area. a possible solution could be doing flicking and initiate a drag if and only if the mouse cursor goes out of the window. could be a bit confusing, even tough not a completely new behavior (search and launch does a similar thing) Cheers, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML widget explorer
On Monday, January 02, 2012 11:41:41 Marco Martin wrote: On Sunday 01 January 2012, Martin Gräßlin wrote: * Yeah scrolling would be nice :-) Also the missing flickable behavior surprised me, though it is clear that it cannot work when there is a drag area. a possible solution could be doing flicking and initiate a drag if and only if the mouse cursor goes out of the window. could be a bit confusing, even tough not a completely new behavior (search and launch does a similar thing) Wheel-scrolling would work anyway, and since this is a pretty much mouse/keyboard exclusive piece of UI, it should be optimized for patterns usually found with mice/keyboard. Being able to use the scrollwheel is pretty essential, I don't think people really expect flickable behaviour in desktop components. Recap: The problem is that scrolling is hard right now, not that the flickable doesn't work b/c of the drag feature. Same goes for the activity switcher, of course. Cheers, -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML widget explorer
On Monday 02 January 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Monday, January 02, 2012 11:41:41 Marco Martin wrote: On Sunday 01 January 2012, Martin Gräßlin wrote: * Yeah scrolling would be nice :-) Also the missing flickable behavior surprised me, though it is clear that it cannot work when there is a drag area. a possible solution could be doing flicking and initiate a drag if and only if the mouse cursor goes out of the window. could be a bit confusing, even tough not a completely new behavior (search and launch does a similar thing) Wheel-scrolling would work anyway, and since this is a pretty much mouse/keyboard exclusive piece of UI, it should be optimized for patterns usually found with mice/keyboard. Being able to use the scrollwheel is pretty essential, I don't think people really expect flickable behaviour in desktop components. Recap: The problem is that scrolling is hard right now, not that the flickable doesn't work b/c of the drag feature. Same goes for the activity switcher, of course. Cheers, yeah, basically Flickable scroll horizontally only with the horizontal wheel (exists on touchpads, is not really used tough) so would be needed a WheelElement in qtextracomponents i guess -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML widget explorer
On Saturday 31 December 2011, Marco Martin wrote: Hi all, After almost a year of stopped development, I think the qml rewrite of the widget explorer and activity manager are almost ready for merge :D Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum, the qml widget explorer and activity manager are merged, let the bitch fest begin :p Cheers, Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML widget explorer
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote: the qml widget explorer and activity manager are merged, let the bitch fest begin :p So is this why you haven't/aren't on IRC? You think you can just hide from us and it'll all go away?! ;-p -- Shaun Reich, KDE Software Developer (kde.org) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Re: QML widget explorer
On Sunday 01 January 2012 20:51:34 Marco Martin wrote: On Saturday 31 December 2011, Marco Martin wrote: Hi all, After almost a year of stopped development, I think the qml rewrite of the widget explorer and activity manager are almost ready for merge :D Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum, meh my Latin is not even good enough any more to translate that without Wikipedia :-( the qml widget explorer and activity manager are merged, let the bitch fest begin :p a little bit of feedback * \o/ yeah opening the widget explorer and typing works \o/ * the bottom of the activity mager looks a little bit crowded. I would say margin is missing (see [1]). If I are first in widget explorer it looks correct. * clicking on Create Activity opens the window on the left screen corner. If you don't have that I blame Qt and update (I saw 4.8 is in Debian experimental) * If I am first in Activies with bad bottom and go to widgets the scrollbar is missing * There should be a margin between widget title and right corner - see [2] * Widget name might need a text elide - see [3] * Too much empty space in tooltips * Yeah scrolling would be nice :-) Also the missing flickable behavior surprised me, though it is clear that it cannot work when there is a drag area. great work :-) Cheers Martin [1] http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/01/bottom-of-activity-manager.png [2] http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/01/kmail2f26845.jpg [3] http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/01/kmail2W26845.jpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML widget explorer
On Sunday 01 January 2012, Martin Gräßlin wrote: On Sunday 01 January 2012 20:51:34 Marco Martin wrote: On Saturday 31 December 2011, Marco Martin wrote: Hi all, After almost a year of stopped development, I think the qml rewrite of the widget explorer and activity manager are almost ready for merge :D Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum, meh my Latin is not even good enough any more to translate that without Wikipedia :-( the qml widget explorer and activity manager are merged, let the bitch fest begin :p a little bit of feedback * \o/ yeah opening the widget explorer and typing works \o/ * the bottom of the activity mager looks a little bit crowded. I would say margin is missing (see [1]). If I are first in widget explorer it looks correct. uhm, seems the whole window gets behind the panel O.o * clicking on Create Activity opens the window on the left screen corner. If you don't have that I blame Qt and update (I saw 4.8 is in Debian experimental) duh, a thing i forgotten to fix, should be ok now * If I am first in Activies with bad bottom and go to widgets the scrollbar is missing * There should be a margin between widget title and right corner - see [2] * Widget name might need a text elide - see [3] * Too much empty space in tooltips there are probably a lot of little layout misbehaviours, that'll take a while indeed (and, slightly different behaviours with different fonts, fot sizes, etc - fun ;) * Yeah scrolling would be nice :-) Also the missing flickable behavior surprised me, though it is clear that it cannot work when there is a drag area. yep, the events are eaten by the drag area, the two things are pretty much mutually exclusive :/ great work :-) thx ;) -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML widget explorer
On Sunday 01 January 2012 20:51:34 Marco Martin wrote: Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum, What? the qml widget explorer and activity manager are merged, let the bitch fest begin :p Ah, we have to smoke some QML in our pope ;-) -- Ruurd Pels, Boogerd 1, 1791 GW Den Burg - Texel, The Netherlands ru...@kde.nl http://about.me/ruurdpels +31612914545 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QML widget explorer
Oh Awesome, hurray for less code to maintain! Merge that in, so that we can all suffer and fix it ;-p The mouse wheel isn't a big deal by far yet(too bad it sounds like a hassle to fix though), considering the original's mouse wheel implementation would scroll 2px at a time, making it quite useless :-) -- Shaun Reich, KDE Software Developer (kde.org) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
