Re: TokamakIV update

2010-02-11 Thread Lukas Appelhans
Am Donnerstag 11 Februar 2010 12:21:26 schrieb Will Stephenson:
> On Wednesday 03 February 2010 23:22:20 Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> > PS: Will, do you take care of having a development computer for me?
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > :)
> 
> Sorry, I just saw this.
> 
> I'm sure we can find you something - do you want openSUSE 11.2 on it or
> will I just leave it to you to install?
Well I don't care what's on it really :) So openSuSE would be just fine... :)

Lukas
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Re: TokamakIV update

2010-02-11 Thread Will Stephenson
On Wednesday 03 February 2010 23:22:20 Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> PS: Will, do you take care of having a development computer for me? Thanks!
> :)

Sorry, I just saw this.

I'm sure we can find you something - do you want openSUSE 11.2 on it or will I 
just leave it to you to install?

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Re: TokamakIV update

2010-02-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On February 5, 2010, Sandro Andrade wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Has the arrangement for working groups in T4 already begun ? Or is this

we need to start this. i'll begin a new thread for it.

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Re: TokamakIV update

2010-02-05 Thread Sandro Andrade
Hi all,

Has the arrangement for working groups in T4 already begun ? Or is this
going to be defined in the beginning of sprint ? I'm trying the make a plan
for my contribution during T4 ...

See you,
Sandro

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Lukas Appelhans  wrote:

> Am Mittwoch 03 Februar 2010 23:50:55 schrieb Ivan Čukić:
> > On Wednesday, 3. February 2010. 23.22.20 Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> > > Hey!
> > >
> > > Just to give an update from my side... I will arrive at 18:24 on Friday
> > > and will depart at 17:33 on sunday... anyone got the same times (and
> > > maybe the same train, it's some ICE)?
> >
> > You should fill that info to T4 page on techbase so that we all can
> > organize in groups.
> Done, thanks for hinting...
>
> Lukas
> >
> > Cheerio
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Re: TokamakIV update

2010-02-03 Thread Lukas Appelhans
Am Mittwoch 03 Februar 2010 23:50:55 schrieb Ivan Čukić:
> On Wednesday, 3. February 2010. 23.22.20 Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> > Hey!
> > 
> > Just to give an update from my side... I will arrive at 18:24 on Friday
> > and will depart at 17:33 on sunday... anyone got the same times (and
> > maybe the same train, it's some ICE)?
> 
> You should fill that info to T4 page on techbase so that we all can
> organize in groups.
Done, thanks for hinting...

Lukas
> 
> Cheerio
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Re: TokamakIV update

2010-02-03 Thread Ivan Čukić
On Wednesday, 3. February 2010. 23.22.20 Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> Hey!
> 
> Just to give an update from my side... I will arrive at 18:24 on Friday and
> will depart at 17:33 on sunday... anyone got the same times (and maybe the
> same train, it's some ICE)?

You should fill that info to T4 page on techbase so that we all can organize in 
groups.

Cheerio

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Re: TokamakIV update

2010-02-03 Thread Lukas Appelhans
Hey!

Just to give an update from my side... I will arrive at 18:24 on Friday and 
will depart at 17:33 on sunday... anyone got the same times (and maybe the 
same train, it's some ICE)?

Lukas

PS: Will, do you take care of having a development computer for me? Thanks! :)

Am Montag 11 Januar 2010 23:15:53 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
> Hi,
> 
> I've just sent a request for sponsoring to the KDE e.V. board. I'll let you
> know if and when we got the funding approved. Please hold off booking your
> tickets until then -- I don't expect it to take more than a couple of
> days.
> 
> We'll be around 25 people, for roughly a week, Oxygen, Kwin and Plasma
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-02-01 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
> Hi all,
> Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat mobile
> device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to get
> plasma-mobile started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly bigger 
> than an n810) so getting things to run on it is really easy.
> Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical
> question since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can get at
> least two people that will be interested working on them during Tokamak i
> think i can make them lending us two more devices, so there will be enough
> to experiment for some people.
> then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have to
> make sure they'll be put in good use.
> 
> who raises hand? :)

A quick update on the situation:
it seems we'll have indeed 3 devices in total, even if i have to send them 
back right after tokamak.
So let's make good use of this occasion and let's be productive :D

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-17 Thread Riccardo Iaconelli
On Wednesday 13 January 2010 16:57:46 Marco Martin wrote:
> another update with good news:
> probably two of them can be lended to two people for some time after the 
> sprint, to still work a bit with those devices.

Wow! Wonderful news! I think we can do some serious work with them then...

Bye,
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-17 Thread Riccardo Iaconelli
On Wednesday 13 January 2010 22:13:07 Chani wrote:
> well, aaron has my trolltech usb-cupwarmer-hub, I'm sure he can bring that.
> :)

I have one too!
I can bring it there and leave it to someone after I'm gone, if needed...

Also, I'd love to play with such devices, especially seeing how tweaking 
configuration of what we already have will work. I haven't contributed that 
much recently to plasma, so if someone else wants to hack you will probably 
have priority over me, but since there are not many hands raised I will raise 
mine.

With such an exciting meeting, too bad that I must come back home on Sunday... 
:(

I can also bring an eeepc 701 if anybody is interested, it has the same 
resolution of the other devices, and it's really really a low end device. :)

Bye,
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-17 Thread Riccardo Iaconelli
On Tuesday 12 January 2010 18:44:39 Marco Martin wrote:
> ah, and that one is 800x480 too, so no need to make two versions of the 
> mockups ;)

Mmmh... then we really should do the special wallpaper version for this 
resolution. ;-)

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Marco Martin  wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 January 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> On January 13, 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
>> > I was thinking about asking something like 3 weeks/one month, then who
>> > received should ship the thing back.
>> > any comments? need more/less time?
>>
>> i'd ask for at least 2 months if at all possible. a full KDE release cycle
>> would be golden, but that may be asking too much :) otherwise, i think this
>> s a brilliant approach.
> ok, i've asked 2 months now, let's see how it goes :)

looks like we will have only one at tokamak, too bad, but let's get
the more possible out of this :)
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-15 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
[...snippet ant top posting..]

Sorry hehe :) I was away for the last week. Right now I'm in US for
camp kde (arriving san diego tomorrow...)

Yes, I plan to work with Alexis in Oslo and it's going to be wonderful
to work during tokamak with the oxygen team ;)

See you at camp kde!

Cheers!

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Kevin Ottens  wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 January 2010 23:39:33 Marco Martin wrote:
>> last time i tried i was a bit lost on broken dependencies in the packaged
>> qt themselves (hope it's fixed by now?) and mysql, that's a bit a brutal
>> dependency in this context, but exterminating all the pim related stuff
>> from the build doesn't seem pretty nice as well :)
>
> On the maemo side it's being worked on ATM. Right now the mysql issues are
> getting solved (if everything goes well fixes will get in the upstream qt-
> maemo) even though depending on mysql is a temporary measure to enable
> everyone to start working on those platforms.
>
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Wednesday 13 January 2010 23:39:33 Marco Martin wrote:
> last time i tried i was a bit lost on broken dependencies in the packaged
> qt themselves (hope it's fixed by now?) and mysql, that's a bit a brutal
> dependency in this context, but exterminating all the pim related stuff
> from the build doesn't seem pretty nice as well :)

On the maemo side it's being worked on ATM. Right now the mysql issues are 
getting solved (if everything goes well fixes will get in the upstream qt-
maemo) even though depending on mysql is a temporary measure to enable 
everyone to start working on those platforms.

Regards.
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 13 January 2010, Alexis Ménard wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Chani  wrote:
> >> Would really need a couple more of "yes, i'm interested" :p
> > 
> > ohh, I wish I could say yes, but I've got enough on my plate already...
> > I'll be playing with my n900 at tokamak if I ever get around to building
> > plasma- moblie (erm, are there instructions anywhere? dependency list?)
> 
> In my mind mouahahahah...When arthur is coming (before i'm
> busy...sorrry) we're gonna clean that properly so wiki + packages (and
> the scripts)...
> 
> Some dependencies are missing, i'm gonna package them (almost done)
> and upload that to extra-devel so people don't need to go to that step
> 
> :D. For example, soprano, raptor,...
> :

last time i tried i was a bit lost on broken dependencies in the packaged qt 
themselves (hope it's fixed by now?) and mysql, that's a bit a brutal 
dependency in this context, but exterminating all the pim related stuff from 
the build doesn't seem pretty nice as well :)
(and yeah, on the intel device at the moment i'm using 3rd party mysql package 
built by the xbmc project :p)

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Alexis Ménard
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Chani  wrote:
>
>>
>> Would really need a couple more of "yes, i'm interested" :p
>
> ohh, I wish I could say yes, but I've got enough on my plate already... I'll
> be playing with my n900 at tokamak if I ever get around to building plasma-
> moblie (erm, are there instructions anywhere? dependency list?)

In my mind mouahahahah...When arthur is coming (before i'm
busy...sorrry) we're gonna clean that properly so wiki + packages (and
the scripts)...

Some dependencies are missing, i'm gonna package them (almost done)
and upload that to extra-devel so people don't need to go to that step
:D. For example, soprano, raptor,...

>
>> also, it would make working with those things significantly easier if
>> someody has laying around things like an usb ethernet adaptor (getting
>> wifi to work on them is too random:) and usb hubs, preferably powered and
>> can share them just during the meeting ;)
>
> well, aaron has my trolltech usb-cupwarmer-hub, I'm sure he can bring that. :)
>
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Chani

> 
> Would really need a couple more of "yes, i'm interested" :p

ohh, I wish I could say yes, but I've got enough on my plate already... I'll 
be playing with my n900 at tokamak if I ever get around to building plasma-
moblie (erm, are there instructions anywhere? dependency list?)

> also, it would make working with those things significantly easier if
> someody has laying around things like an usb ethernet adaptor (getting
> wifi to work on them is too random:) and usb hubs, preferably powered and
> can share them just during the meeting ;)

well, aaron has my trolltech usb-cupwarmer-hub, I'm sure he can bring that. :)

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 13 January 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On January 13, 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
> > I was thinking about asking something like 3 weeks/one month, then who
> > received should ship the thing back.
> > any comments? need more/less time?
> 
> i'd ask for at least 2 months if at all possible. a full KDE release cycle
> would be golden, but that may be asking too much :) otherwise, i think this
> is a brilliant approach.
ok, i've asked 2 months now, let's see how it goes :)

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 13, 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
> I was thinking about asking something like 3 weeks/one month, then who
> received should ship the thing back.
> any comments? need more/less time?

i'd ask for at least 2 months if at all possible. a full KDE release cycle 
would be golden, but that may be asking too much :) otherwise, i think this is 
a brilliant approach.

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
> Hi all,
> Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat mobile
> device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to get
> plasma-mobile started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly bigger 
> than an n810) so getting things to run on it is really easy.
> Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical
> question since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can get at
> least two people that will be interested working on them during Tokamak i
> think i can make them lending us two more devices, so there will be enough
> to experiment for some people.
> then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have to
> make sure they'll be put in good use.
> 
> who raises hand? :)
> 
> cheers,
> Marco Martin

another update with good news:
probably two of them can be lended to two people for some time after the 
sprint, to still work a bit with those devices. (unfortunately they prefer to 
keep them in europe, for shipment costs i suppose, so this phases out some 
people, sorry :/)
I think we'll decide at the last moment wo takes them, based on how the sprint 
was gone.
I was thinking about asking something like 3 weeks/one month, then who 
received should ship the thing back.
any comments? need more/less time?

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Wednesday 13 January 2010 14:08:57 Marco Martin wrote:
> exactly, even if they're somewhat similar they pose quite different
> problems. what i'm really looking forward is to get the maemo development
> environment up and running in the best way for KDE development (and if a
> good document how to achieve that will be produced would be killer)

Good timing it seems, I meant to publish that for a while but solved the 
hosting issues only this week:
http://ervin.ipsquad.net/2010/01/13/helping-with-maemo-sdk-deployment-qtmaemo-
vm/

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 13 January 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On January 13, 2010, Alexis Ménard wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:
> > > Would really need a couple more of "yes, i'm interested" :p
> 
> i'm certainly game :)
> 
> > > also, it would make working with those things significantly easier if
> > > someody has laying around things like an usb ethernet adaptor (getting
> > > wifi to work on them is too random:) and usb hubs, preferably powered
> > > and can share them just during the meeting ;)
> 
> we should make a list of these things on the tokamak4 page on techbase.

doing right now

> > For me i do prefer working on the N900, the config is much more
> > reliable and easy.
> 
> i think we can do both. being able to work with various devices will give
> us useful experience and broaden the targets for our software.

exactly, even if they're somewhat similar they pose quite different problems.
what i'm really looking forward is to get the maemo development environment up 
and running in the best way for KDE development (and if a good document how to 
achieve that will be produced would be killer)
also because helping resolving build issues is something that can be done by 
everybody, no need to have an actual device :p

> i'm just excited to have devices from these two giants of the industry
> there
> 
> :)

yep :D

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 13, 2010, Alexis Ménard wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:
> > Would really need a couple more of "yes, i'm interested" :p

i'm certainly game :)

> > also, it would make working with those things significantly easier if
> > someody has laying around things like an usb ethernet adaptor (getting
> > wifi to work on them is too random:) and usb hubs, preferably powered
> > and can share them just during the meeting ;)

we should make a list of these things on the tokamak4 page on techbase.
 
> For me i do prefer working on the N900, the config is much more
> reliable and easy.

i think we can do both. being able to work with various devices will give us 
useful experience and broaden the targets for our software.

i'm just excited to have devices from these two giants of the industry there 
:)

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Ivan Čukić
> > who raises hand? :)
> 
> Would really need a couple more of "yes, i'm interested" :p

I love gadgets, so when not working on plasma+nepomuk, I could join the mobile 
group as well :)

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Sandro Andrade
Hi Marco and Alexis,

I could help in such task although I'm not used to such mobile
devices. I'll receive an N900 in next weeks, so that would be a good
chance to begin some work in that direction.

See you,
Sandro Andrade

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Alexis Ménard  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:
>> On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat mobile
>>> device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to get
>>> plasma-mobile started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly bigger
>>> than an n810) so getting things to run on it is really easy.
>>> Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical
>>> question since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can get at
>>> least two people that will be interested working on them during Tokamak i
>>> think i can make them lending us two more devices, so there will be enough
>>> to experiment for some people.
>>> then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have to
>>> make sure they'll be put in good use.
>>>
>>> who raises hand? :)
>>
>> Would really need a couple more of "yes, i'm interested" :p
>> also, it would make working with those things significantly easier if someody
>> has laying around things like an usb ethernet adaptor (getting wifi to work 
>> on
>> them is too random:) and usb hubs, preferably powered and can share them just
>> during the meeting ;)
>>
>
> For me i do prefer working on the N900, the config is much more
> reliable and easy.
> I bring extra devices for other people.
>
>> Cheers,
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Alexis Ménard
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat mobile
>> device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to get
>> plasma-mobile started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly bigger
>> than an n810) so getting things to run on it is really easy.
>> Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical
>> question since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can get at
>> least two people that will be interested working on them during Tokamak i
>> think i can make them lending us two more devices, so there will be enough
>> to experiment for some people.
>> then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have to
>> make sure they'll be put in good use.
>>
>> who raises hand? :)
>
> Would really need a couple more of "yes, i'm interested" :p
> also, it would make working with those things significantly easier if someody
> has laying around things like an usb ethernet adaptor (getting wifi to work on
> them is too random:) and usb hubs, preferably powered and can share them just
> during the meeting ;)
>

For me i do prefer working on the N900, the config is much more
reliable and easy.
I bring extra devices for other people.

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Marco Martin wrote:
> Hi all,
> Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat mobile
> device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to get
> plasma-mobile started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly bigger 
> than an n810) so getting things to run on it is really easy.
> Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical
> question since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can get at
> least two people that will be interested working on them during Tokamak i
> think i can make them lending us two more devices, so there will be enough
> to experiment for some people.
> then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have to
> make sure they'll be put in good use.
> 
> who raises hand? :)

Would really need a couple more of "yes, i'm interested" :p
also, it would make working with those things significantly easier if someody 
has laying around things like an usb ethernet adaptor (getting wifi to work on 
them is too random:) and usb hubs, preferably powered and can share them just 
during the meeting ;)

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-12 Thread Alexis Ménard
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Marco Martin  wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 12 de January de 2010 17:44:39 Marco Martin wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, 12 de January de 2010 15:32:44 Marco Martin wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I have been lately playing around with alot of UI/design in touch small
>> > > screen oriented devices, so I would be interested..
>> > >
>> > > the N900 still has not made it here so Im playing with printed versions
>> > >
>> > > :D (actual paper printed versions its pretty fun)
>> >
>> > will install gwenview too on it so :D
>> > ah, and that one is 800x480 too, so no need to make two versions of the
>> > mockups ;)
>>
>> but i bet the screen is bigger that the n900, the n900 poses alot of
>> interesting issues because the dpi is huge, Touch based devices are really
>> interesting  as besides the usual "how many pixels do i have" problem other
>> problems rise up as "this clicable area must be as big as my fingertip", so
>> there we go back to the real size based design vs the pixel based design,
>> and the complete custom design for each device.
>>
>> Interesting stuff :D
>
> yeah, the thing looks like a slighty bigger n810 and has already much higher
> dpi that the usual 96 of the desktop (fonts are hge there ;))
>
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > > > Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat
>> > > > mobile device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to
>> > > > get
>> > > >
>> > > >  plasma-mobile started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly
>> > > >
>> > > > bigger than an n810) so getting things to run on it is really easy.
>> > > >
>> > > > Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical
>> > > >
>> > > >  question since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can
>> > > >  get at least two people that will be interested working on them
>> > > >  during Tokamak i think i can make them lending us two more devices,
>> > > >  so there will be enough to experiment for some people.
>> > > >
>> > > > then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have
>> > > > to
>> > > >
>> > > >  make sure they'll be put in good use.
>> > > >
>> > > > who raises hand? :)
>> > > >
>> > > > cheers,
>> > > > Marco Martin
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I'm looking forward to work with you on mockup Nuno so we can
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> On Tuesday, 12 de January de 2010 17:44:39 Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 12 de January de 2010 15:32:44 Marco Martin wrote:
> > > 
> > > I have been lately playing around with alot of UI/design in touch small
> > > screen oriented devices, so I would be interested..
> > > 
> > > the N900 still has not made it here so Im playing with printed versions
> > > 
> > > :D (actual paper printed versions its pretty fun)
> > 
> > will install gwenview too on it so :D
> > ah, and that one is 800x480 too, so no need to make two versions of the
> > mockups ;)
> 
> but i bet the screen is bigger that the n900, the n900 poses alot of
> interesting issues because the dpi is huge, Touch based devices are really
> interesting  as besides the usual "how many pixels do i have" problem other
> problems rise up as "this clicable area must be as big as my fingertip", so
> there we go back to the real size based design vs the pixel based design,
> and the complete custom design for each device.
> 
> Interesting stuff :D

yeah, the thing looks like a slighty bigger n810 and has already much higher 
dpi that the usual 96 of the desktop (fonts are hge there ;))

> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat
> > > > mobile device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to
> > > > get
> > > > 
> > > >  plasma-mobile started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly
> > > > 
> > > > bigger than an n810) so getting things to run on it is really easy.
> > > > 
> > > > Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical
> > > > 
> > > >  question since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can
> > > >  get at least two people that will be interested working on them
> > > >  during Tokamak i think i can make them lending us two more devices,
> > > >  so there will be enough to experiment for some people.
> > > > 
> > > > then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have
> > > > to
> > > > 
> > > >  make sure they'll be put in good use.
> > > > 
> > > > who raises hand? :)
> > > > 
> > > > cheers,
> > > > Marco Martin
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-12 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
On Tuesday, 12 de January de 2010 17:44:39 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 12 de January de 2010 15:32:44 Marco Martin wrote:
> >
> > I have been lately playing around with alot of UI/design in touch small
> > screen oriented devices, so I would be interested..
> >
> > the N900 still has not made it here so Im playing with printed versions
> > :D (actual paper printed versions its pretty fun)
> 
> will install gwenview too on it so :D
> ah, and that one is 800x480 too, so no need to make two versions of the
> mockups ;)

but i bet the screen is bigger that the n900, the n900 poses alot of 
interesting issues because the dpi is huge, Touch based devices are really 
interesting  as besides the usual "how many pixels do i have" problem other 
problems rise up as "this clicable area must be as big as my fingertip", so 
there we go back to the real size based design vs the pixel based design, and 
the complete custom design for each device.

Interesting stuff :D

> > > Hi all,
> > > Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat
> > > mobile device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to get
> > >
> > >  plasma-mobile started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly
> > > bigger than an n810) so getting things to run on it is really easy.
> > >
> > > Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical
> > >
> > >  question since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can get
> > >  at least two people that will be interested working on them during
> > >  Tokamak i think i can make them lending us two more devices, so there
> > >  will be enough to experiment for some people.
> > >
> > > then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have to
> > >
> > >  make sure they'll be put in good use.
> > >
> > > who raises hand? :)
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Marco Martin
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> On Tuesday, 12 de January de 2010 15:32:44 Marco Martin wrote:
> 
> I have been lately playing around with alot of UI/design in touch small
> screen oriented devices, so I would be interested..
> 
> the N900 still has not made it here so Im playing with printed versions :D
> (actual paper printed versions its pretty fun)

will install gwenview too on it so :D
ah, and that one is 800x480 too, so no need to make two versions of the 
mockups ;)

> > Hi all,
> > Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat
> > mobile device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to get
> > 
> >  plasma-mobile started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly bigger
> >  than an n810) so getting things to run on it is really easy.
> > 
> > Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical
> > 
> >  question since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can get
> >  at least two people that will be interested working on them during
> >  Tokamak i think i can make them lending us two more devices, so there
> >  will be enough to experiment for some people.
> > 
> > then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have to
> > 
> >  make sure they'll be put in good use.
> > 
> > who raises hand? :)
> > 
> > cheers,
> > Marco Martin
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 12 January 2010, Alexis Ménard wrote:
> Plus 3-4 N900s that i will bring :D
> 
> Artur is coming to Oslo end of this month, i plan to work with him on
> KDE packages so the devices will be ready to work with...And at least
> the process so we can generate plasma packages on the fly...

wonderful :D

> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Aaron J. Seigo  wrote:
> > On January 12, 2010, Alexis Ménard wrote:
> >> Me but i'll bring N900s too.
> >> 
> >> My plan for tokamak 4 is plasma-mobile only...nothing else...
> > 
> > yes, i think we'll have one "pod" of people working on Plasma Mobile
> > during the conference. i think we'll have at least 4-5 devices in total
> > to keep people busy. (3 from Intel, at least one N900 and i will be
> > bringing a low-end MIPS based clamshell device as well.)
> > 
> > really exciting stuff, and i hope we all bring our Big Ideas for the user
> > interface with us!
> > 
> > of course, there will be lots of other topics for "the rest of us" to
> > keep our hands busy with too! :)
> > 
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-12 Thread Alexis Ménard
Plus 3-4 N900s that i will bring :D

Artur is coming to Oslo end of this month, i plan to work with him on
KDE packages so the devices will be ready to work with...And at least
the process so we can generate plasma packages on the fly...

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Aaron J. Seigo  wrote:
> On January 12, 2010, Alexis Ménard wrote:
>> Me but i'll bring N900s too.
>>
>> My plan for tokamak 4 is plasma-mobile only...nothing else...
>
> yes, i think we'll have one "pod" of people working on Plasma Mobile during
> the conference. i think we'll have at least 4-5 devices in total to keep
> people busy. (3 from Intel, at least one N900 and i will be bringing a low-end
> MIPS based clamshell device as well.)
>
> really exciting stuff, and i hope we all bring our Big Ideas for the user
> interface with us!
>
> of course, there will be lots of other topics for "the rest of us" to keep our
> hands busy with too! :)
>
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 12, 2010, Alexis Ménard wrote:
> Me but i'll bring N900s too.
> 
> My plan for tokamak 4 is plasma-mobile only...nothing else...

yes, i think we'll have one "pod" of people working on Plasma Mobile during 
the conference. i think we'll have at least 4-5 devices in total to keep 
people busy. (3 from Intel, at least one N900 and i will be bringing a low-end 
MIPS based clamshell device as well.)

really exciting stuff, and i hope we all bring our Big Ideas for the user 
interface with us!

of course, there will be lots of other topics for "the rest of us" to keep our 
hands busy with too! :)

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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-12 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
On Tuesday, 12 de January de 2010 15:32:44 Marco Martin wrote:

I have been lately playing around with alot of UI/design in touch small screen 
oriented devices, so I would be interested.. 

the N900 still has not made it here so Im playing with printed versions :D 
(actual paper printed versions its pretty fun) 

> Hi all,
> Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat mobile
> device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to get
>  plasma-mobile started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly bigger 
>  than an n810) so getting things to run on it is really easy.
> Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical
>  question since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can get at
>  least two people that will be interested working on them during Tokamak i
>  think i can make them lending us two more devices, so there will be enough
>  to experiment for some people.
> then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have to
>  make sure they'll be put in good use.
> 
> who raises hand? :)
> 
> cheers,
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Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-12 Thread Alexis Ménard
Me but i'll bring N900s too.

My plan for tokamak 4 is plasma-mobile only...nothing else...

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Marco Martin  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat mobile
> device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to get plasma-mobile
> started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly bigger  than an n810) so
> getting things to run on it is really easy.
> Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical question
> since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can get at least two
> people that will be interested working on them during Tokamak i think i can
> make them lending us two more devices, so there will be enough to experiment
> for some people.
> then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have to make
> sure they'll be put in good use.
>
> who raises hand? :)
>
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Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)

2010-01-12 Thread Marco Martin
Hi all,
Since a couple of days i had the occasion playing aroung with a neat mobile 
device by Intel. I think it's a good development platform to get plasma-mobile 
started since is basicaly a pc (tough only slightly bigger  than an n810) so 
getting things to run on it is really easy.
Now since i had green light to ask this, (i know that's a rethorical question 
since i know everybody here loves this stuff ;p) if i can get at least two 
people that will be interested working on them during Tokamak i think i can 
make them lending us two more devices, so there will be enough to experiment 
for some people.
then of course they don't have to do that all the time, we just have to make 
sure they'll be put in good use.

who raises hand? :)

cheers,
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Re: TokamakIV update

2010-01-11 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
On Monday, 11 de January de 2010 22:40:49 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On January 11, 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > We'll be around 25 people, for roughly a week, Oxygen, Kwin and Plasma
> > people combined. Quite impressive :)
> 
> i wonder how large Tokamak will grow in the future. anyways, thanks for
>  taking this on, most appreciated.
> 
I must say the list of people is very impressive, think we can do real focus 
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Re: TokamakIV update

2010-01-11 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 11, 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> We'll be around 25 people, for roughly a week, Oxygen, Kwin and Plasma
> people combined. Quite impressive :)

i wonder how large Tokamak will grow in the future. anyways, thanks for taking 
this on, most appreciated.

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Re: TokamakIV update

2010-01-11 Thread Alexis Ménard
My travel has been approved so you can remove me from the budget :D.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Sebastian Kügler  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just sent a request for sponsoring to the KDE e.V. board. I'll let you 
> know if
> and when we got the funding approved. Please hold off booking your tickets 
> until then
> -- I don't expect it to take more than a couple of days.
>
> We'll be around 25 people, for roughly a week, Oxygen, Kwin and Plasma people
> combined. Quite impressive :)
>
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