Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2016-02-01 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik

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Review request for Plasma, KDE Usability and Andrew Lake.


Bugs: 350705
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705


Repository: plasma-desktop


Description
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I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
*thumbnail* rather than the dialog


Diffs
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  applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 

Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/


Testing
---

Works.


File Attachments


New close button
  
https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png


Thanks,

Kai Uwe Broulik

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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-26 Thread Eike Hein


> On Oct. 25, 2015, 11:08 p.m., Uri Herrera wrote:
> > I agree with Thomas that having the button inside the thumbnail is 
> > confusing.
> > 
> > ![](http://i.imgur.com/JlZveha.png)
> > 
> > On this image I moved the button outside the thumbnail, used the actual 
> > window-close icon in the icon theme and removed the round button background.
> > 
> > ![](http://i.imgur.com/1gfju2e.png)
> > 
> > On this the button is inside and there's no button background.
> 
> Uri Herrera wrote:
> I also made the button bigger, currently the button looks really tiny for 
> me.

The button is mostly on the thumbnail because there could be multiple windows 
in the tooltip.


- Eike


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On Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma, KDE Usability and Andrew Lake.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
> ---
> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin


> On Oct. 26, 2015, 3:22 a.m., Andrew Lake wrote:
> > Proper close button is welcome. Generally looks good to me, though I do 
> > think the close button works better with the consistency of the normal 
> > background rather than the randomness of the thumbnail as a background. 
> > Other than that, thumbs up from me!

hey that's not fair. For years there was complaint that we cannot put the close 
button on the window. Now finally we made that possible and what? Move close 
button outside again.

/me grumbles about waisted time and that I don't want to invest the time to 
make that work on Wayland as it's really, really a difficult task.


- Martin


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On Oct. 25, 2015, 10:42 p.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 25, 2015, 10:42 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma, KDE Usability and Andrew Lake.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
> ---
> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-26 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik


> On Okt. 26, 2015, 2:22 vorm., Andrew Lake wrote:
> > Proper close button is welcome. Generally looks good to me, though I do 
> > think the close button works better with the consistency of the normal 
> > background rather than the randomness of the thumbnail as a background. 
> > Other than that, thumbs up from me!
> 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> hey that's not fair. For years there was complaint that we cannot put the 
> close button on the window. Now finally we made that possible and what? Move 
> close button outside again.
> 
> /me grumbles about waisted time and that I don't want to invest the time 
> to make that work on Wayland as it's really, really a difficult task.

Also note that depending on the window geometry the thumbnail would get wider 
eventually partially or entirely leaking behind the close button. The partial 
case was what I wanted to avoid.


- Kai Uwe


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On Okt. 25, 2015, 9:42 nachm., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> 
> (Updated Okt. 25, 2015, 9:42 nachm.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma, KDE Usability and Andrew Lake.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
> ---
> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-26 Thread Marco Martin


> On Oct. 26, 2015, 2:22 a.m., Andrew Lake wrote:
> > Proper close button is welcome. Generally looks good to me, though I do 
> > think the close button works better with the consistency of the normal 
> > background rather than the randomness of the thumbnail as a background. 
> > Other than that, thumbs up from me!
> 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> hey that's not fair. For years there was complaint that we cannot put the 
> close button on the window. Now finally we made that possible and what? Move 
> close button outside again.
> 
> /me grumbles about waisted time and that I don't want to invest the time 
> to make that work on Wayland as it's really, really a difficult task.
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
> Also note that depending on the window geometry the thumbnail would get 
> wider eventually partially or entirely leaking behind the close button. The 
> partial case was what I wanted to avoid.

with the button outside the thumbnail, how would it look when there are more 
thumbnails in the tooltip due to grouped windows?


- Marco


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On Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma, KDE Usability and Andrew Lake.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
> ---
> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-26 Thread Andrew Lake


> On Oct. 26, 2015, 2:22 a.m., Andrew Lake wrote:
> > Proper close button is welcome. Generally looks good to me, though I do 
> > think the close button works better with the consistency of the normal 
> > background rather than the randomness of the thumbnail as a background. 
> > Other than that, thumbs up from me!
> 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> hey that's not fair. For years there was complaint that we cannot put the 
> close button on the window. Now finally we made that possible and what? Move 
> close button outside again.
> 
> /me grumbles about waisted time and that I don't want to invest the time 
> to make that work on Wayland as it's really, really a difficult task.
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
> Also note that depending on the window geometry the thumbnail would get 
> wider eventually partially or entirely leaking behind the close button. The 
> partial case was what I wanted to avoid.
> 
> Marco Martin wrote:
> with the button outside the thumbnail, how would it look when there are 
> more thumbnails in the tooltip due to grouped windows?

I'm not sure I remember which complaint was "we cannot put the close button on 
the window" and what discussion resulted in putting it on the window, but sorry 
if my observation resulted betrays some inconsistency. If we want to leave the 
close button on the the thumbnail itself, then all I'd suggest is that we 
provide some kind of consistent background for the thing to sit on. As it is, I 
think the noise of the thumbnail background makes the button difficult to 
distinguish. Maybe moving it outside is not the right solution for that. And 
maybe that suggestion conflicts with something we already provided guidance on. 
I'd simply request we please assume any inconsistency in what I've said is 
because of my awful memory, not because I'm running some consistency-checker 
against what I previously said to screw over the hard work anyone has done.


- Andrew


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On Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma, KDE Usability and Andrew Lake.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
> ---
> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-25 Thread Uri Herrera


> On Oct. 25, 2015, 11:08 p.m., Uri Herrera wrote:
> > I agree with Thomas that having the button inside the thumbnail is 
> > confusing.
> > 
> > ![](http://i.imgur.com/JlZveha.png)
> > 
> > On this image I moved the button outside the thumbnail, used the actual 
> > window-close icon in the icon theme and removed the round button background.
> > 
> > ![](http://i.imgur.com/1gfju2e.png)
> > 
> > On this the button is inside and there's no button background.

I also made the button bigger, currently the button looks really tiny for me.


- Uri


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On Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma, KDE Usability and Andrew Lake.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
> ---
> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-25 Thread Uri Herrera

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I agree with Thomas that having the button inside the thumbnail is confusing.

![](http://i.imgur.com/JlZveha.png)

On this image I moved the button outside the thumbnail, used the actual 
window-close icon in the icon theme and removed the round button background.

![](http://i.imgur.com/1gfju2e.png)

On this the button is inside and there's no button background.

- Uri Herrera


On Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma, KDE Usability and Andrew Lake.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
> ---
> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
> 
>

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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-25 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik


> On Okt. 25, 2015, 9:12 nachm., Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > Can you please add Andrew for design review? 
> > From a usability perspective, it would be better if the button was outside 
> > the actual thumbnail, to be sure that it cannot be mistaken as part of the 
> > thumbnail.

the button only appears on hovering, so it should be obvious it's not part of 
the thumbnail


- Kai Uwe


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On Okt. 25, 2015, 5:06 nachm., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Okt. 25, 2015, 5:06 nachm.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
> ---
> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-25 Thread Andrew Lake

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Proper close button is welcome. Generally looks good to me, though I do think 
the close button works better with the consistency of the normal background 
rather than the randomness of the thumbnail as a background. Other than that, 
thumbs up from me!

- Andrew Lake


On Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 25, 2015, 9:42 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma, KDE Usability and Andrew Lake.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
> ---
> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
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Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-25 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik

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Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.


Bugs: 350705
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705


Repository: plasma-desktop


Description
---

I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
*thumbnail* rather than the dialog


Diffs
-

  applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 

Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/


Testing
---

Works.


File Attachments


New close button
  
https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png


Thanks,

Kai Uwe Broulik

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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-25 Thread David Edmundson

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+1

- David Edmundson


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> (Updated Oct. 25, 2015, 5:06 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
> ---
> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
> 
>

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Re: Review Request 125793: [Task Manager] Add proper close button to tooltip

2015-10-25 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer

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Can you please add Andrew for design review? 
>From a usability perspective, it would be better if the button was outside the 
>actual thumbnail, to be sure that it cannot be mistaken as part of the 
>thumbnail.

- Thomas Pfeiffer


On Oct. 25, 2015, 5:06 p.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Oct. 25, 2015, 5:06 p.m.)
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> Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.
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> Bugs: 350705
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350705
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> Repository: plasma-desktop
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> Description
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> 
> I just found this patch I made a while ago. This turns the handmade close 
> button into a regular ToolButton (which is only shown when hovering) with a 
> proper size. Also, the button is always in the top right corner of the 
> *thumbnail* rather than the dialog
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -
> 
>   applets/taskmanager/package/contents/ui/ToolTipDelegate.qml f7084c7 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125793/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> ---
> 
> Works.
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> 
> 
> New close button
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/10/25/0fea55c5-5a9b-4321-bec5-34ec3bacf239__closebuttonproper.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
> 
>

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