Re: System Settings app design freshening
I made a start on the main view, tweaking the existing delegates. http://i.imgur.com/YK5jyO4.png Not quite perfect yet, but pretty close. I know some people want to rewrite it in QtQuick. /if/ that happens and this gets thrown away, that's fine with me. David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: System Settings app design freshening
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Andrew Lake jamboar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 10:19 AM David Edmundson wrote: - reset is changed to undo, is that a deliberate change? (FWIW, I like it if it is.) It wasn't deliberate on my part, it just naturally flowed out of the forum design thread. I agree though, I'm rather in favor of it. Undo however is in the UI almost always associated with one step back, whereas doing more settings would undo more than one step back while still giving the impression of single step back. Eg. if the user bothers with many settings, then does one wrong, thinks undo undoes that one step but all his setting get reset after pressing it. I think that particular change is rather a step back (heh). Cheers -- Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: System Settings app design freshening
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 10:19 AM David Edmundson wrote: Questions: - would there still be tooltips on hover? If they add more information than already available (like showing the module icons) then I think tooltips would be fine. - there's a burger menu top right, what would be in it? That menu would contain the Configure action currently shown as a toolbutton, plus all the actions we currently have in the dropmenu of the current Help toolbutton. - reset is changed to undo, is that a deliberate change? (FWIW, I like it if it is.) It wasn't deliberate on my part, it just naturally flowed out of the forum design thread. I agree though, I'm rather in favor of it. Only thing I think we can't do is the subtext in the list on the left. Probably best to proceed without that, rather than getting too hung up on it. yeah, that part is admittedly aspirational at the moment but better to put the idea out there as a potential opportunity to perhaps consider in the longer term rather than something that should prevent anything else from being implemented in the near term. :-) Thanks much for the feedback David. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do from our (VDG) end, Andrew ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: System Settings app design freshening
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Andrew Lake jamboar...@gmail.com wrote: Recently it was mentioned that it would be nice to get system settings a little more breezy. The VDG has been working on a system settings design for a while and, after a little time trying to get the proposed designs closer to something that might be more easily implemented, the design has finally settled down. To respond to the very helpful feedback that it can be difficult to dig through the VDG forums to determine settled design proposals, we have collected the results of the forum discussion here: https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/System_Settings_Application As noted on that page, this is *not* a proposal for the kcm designs; just the system settings application. So ignore the kcm mockups and focus on the system settings stuff. As always, we can tweak the proposal, as necessary, to adjust to implementation challenges. Hope this helps, It totally helps :) The main view with the new delegates looks awesome. Questions: - would there still be tooltips on hover? - there's a burger menu top right, what would be in it? - reset is changed to undo, is that a deliberate change? (FWIW, I like it if it is.) Technically almost all of this is very do-able. We know when the save button in each module gets pressed, should be easy to write the last n to a config file without having to modify each KCM. Only thing I think we can't do is the subtext in the list on the left. Probably best to proceed without that, rather than getting too hung up on it. David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: System Settings app design freshening
On Sunday 29 March 2015, Andrew Lake wrote: As noted on that page, this is *not* a proposal for the kcm designs; just the system settings application. So ignore the kcm mockups and focus on the system settings stuff. As always, we can tweak the proposal, as necessary, to adjust to implementation challenges. what would the left sidebar do in the first mockup where everything is shown? -- Marco Martin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: System Settings app design freshening
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:47 AM Marco Martin wrote: what would the left sidebar do in the first mockup where everything is shown? Those are links to modules in which recent changes were made. Selecting one would take the user directly to that module. Hope this helps, Andrew ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
System Settings app design freshening
Recently it was mentioned that it would be nice to get system settings a little more breezy. The VDG has been working on a system settings design for a while and, after a little time trying to get the proposed designs closer to something that might be more easily implemented, the design has finally settled down. To respond to the very helpful feedback that it can be difficult to dig through the VDG forums to determine settled design proposals, we have collected the results of the forum discussion here: https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/System_Settings_Application As noted on that page, this is *not* a proposal for the kcm designs; just the system settings application. So ignore the kcm mockups and focus on the system settings stuff. As always, we can tweak the proposal, as necessary, to adjust to implementation challenges. Hope this helps, Andrew ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel