Re: Version Number from .desktop
On Friday 30 January 2009, Dominik Haumann wrote: slightly ot, but anyway: I'd like the about box to be able to display multiple authors, and not just one. I'd even say that's usually more than one work on a plasmoid ;) +1 -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Software signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Version Number from .desktop
On Friday 30 January 2009 15:01:40 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Friday 30 January 2009, David Baron wrote: For the same reason I might want to display the name(), i.e. in an about box or other UI feature that would carry such information. this should not be done per applet, otherwise we get a bunch of different about box implementations and people will end up writing the same code over and over. that is why there is an about box in the add widgets dialog. it includes the version number of the widget. OK, there is a whole pane in the config dialog just for a keyboard shortcut that few, as of yet, even use. An about box could take another pane or share this one :-) There is nothing wrong with having the version available any more than having the name and appletName available. They can go in an about box, the title bar of a dialog box, etc. And if differing about box versions materialize, well, there are different config dialogs around also. Some addPage, some simply use a QTabWidget, etc. Even in windows, there is no absolute conformity. There are UI standards, published and unpublished that make most apps consistent so easier to learn, but not identical. Plasma is and is becoming a tremendously rich platform, the potential of which has scarcely begun to be filled. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Version Number from .desktop
On Saturday 31 January 2009, David Baron wrote: OK, there is a whole pane in the config dialog just for a keyboard shortcut that few, as of yet, even use. all popupapplets along with show desktop and show dashboard do. An about box could take another pane or share this one :-) this might make sense, yes. There is nothing wrong with having the version available any more than having the name and appletName available. it adds to the API which comes with a cost. They can go in an about box, the title bar of a dialog box, etc. we provide an about box, and there is little to no value to it being in a dialog title. And if differing about box versions materialize, well, there are different config dialogs around also. .. which configure different things. we have been standardizing some of the bits of configure diaogs, however, to ensure consistency where possible. Even in windows, there is no absolute conformity. how is that a justification? -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Software signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Version Number from .desktop
On Sunday 01 February 2009 03:36:30 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009, David Baron wrote: OK, there is a whole pane in the config dialog just for a keyboard shortcut that few, as of yet, even use. all popupapplets along with show desktop and show dashboard do. They need it. I also incorporated it for similar reasons. I think that applets should cover minimal space until activate()'ed. Maybe I'll change my mind when I have a dual-head system and two 30 inch LCDs. An about box could take another pane or share this one :-) this might make sense, yes. There is nothing wrong with having the version available any more than having the name and appletName available. it adds to the API which comes with a cost. Minimal. They can go in an about box, the title bar of a dialog box, etc. we provide an about box, and there is little to no value to it being in a dialog title. And if differing about box versions materialize, well, there are different config dialogs around also. .. which configure different things. we have been standardizing some of the bits of configure diaogs, however, to ensure consistency where possible. Even in windows, there is no absolute conformity. how is that a justification? The whole thing of linux (and opensource) is freedom. I am not stuck with one person's good and not-so-good UI philosophy and design taste. I can run gnome or KDE or something lighter or all of them. As long as minimum usability and consistency is maintained, I can choose my poison. I might be in favor a a published UI guideline for plasma applets interfaces (after there is proper published documentation :-)), but I would bet there be many who would object We all install stuff we like. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Version Number from .desktop
On Thursday 29 January 2009, David Baron wrote: Any way to retrieve that from the applet object? a) why? b) via KPluginInfo, though you'd need to load it yourself despite Applet having one internally already (it's just not exported via the API) if a good answer can provided for (a) then we could add this to the Applet API. -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Software signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Version Number from .desktop
On Friday 30 January 2009 10:37:20 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday 29 January 2009, David Baron wrote: Any way to retrieve that from the applet object? a) why? For the same reason I might want to display the name(), i.e. in an about box or other UI feature that would carry such information. Point is not to have this information in several places. b) via KPluginInfo, though you'd need to load it yourself despite Applet having one internally already (it's just not exported via the API) if a good answer can provided for (a) then we could add this to the Applet API. Probably should be there :-) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Version Number from .desktop
On Friday 30 January 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Friday 30 January 2009, David Baron wrote: For the same reason I might want to display the name(), i.e. in an about box or other UI feature that would carry such information. this should not be done per applet, otherwise we get a bunch of different about box implementations and people will end up writing the same code over and over. slightly ot, but anyway: I'd like the about box to be able to display multiple authors, and not just one. I'd even say that's usually more than one work on a plasmoid ;) Dominik ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Version Number from .desktop
Any way to retrieve that from the applet object? ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
