Re: notification plasmoid for desktop

2015-12-16 Thread kainz.a
>
>
> > what's the reason that it will be removed after 10 minutes? wouldn't it
> be nice to have also an history? grouped by date and filters for type.
>
> After 10 minutes a notification is most likely outdated. Otherwise a
> status notifier (system tray icon) should be provided instead.  Also, they
> stay there indefinitely if the computer is idle so you don't miss any.
>

I know what you mean, but an history button or an setting in the plasmoid
settings would be nice. in addition plasma and kde love settings but if you
look at the plasmoids it's sometime like "why is there an config button,
when you only can add an shortcut".


>
> > I like it
> ‎
> Me too.
>

that's the reason I have a look at all plasmoids and there sizing. In
addition good scaling isn't that easy and if you have an usercase (sidebar)
it's easier.
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Re: notification plasmoid for desktop

2015-12-16 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
  Hi,> what's the reason that it will be removed after 10 minutes? wouldn't it be nice to have also an history? grouped by date and filters for type.After 10 minutes a notification is most likely outdated. Otherwise a status notifier (system tray icon) should be provided instead.  Also, they stay there indefinitely if the computer is idle so you don't miss any.> I like it
‎Me too.Cheers, Kai Uwe
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Re: notification plasmoid for desktop

2015-12-16 Thread kainz.a
2015-12-16 17:21 GMT+01:00 Martin Klapetek :

> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:43 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:
>
>>
>> to have a quick glance at them when the windows don't cover everything,
>> just
>> the same use case of any other desktop plasmoid.
>> in general, all plasmoid should disaplay correctly on the desktop and when
>> they don't it tends to be a bug unless there are specific reasons for
>> that. I
>> think the problem at them moment is that it doesn't switch from the
>> compact
>> representation, right?
>>
>
> It does, maybe the sizes are set too big for a default but it does
> switch.
>

what's the minimum size cause I scale the notification to something like
400x400 px


> The actual unusefulness actually comes from the fact
> that the applet does not show anything at all in 90% of the cases
> as it shows only persistent notifications _and_ they go away
> after 10 minutes from it anyway.
>

what's the reason that it will be removed after 10 minutes? wouldn't it be
nice to have also an history? grouped by date and filters for type.


> So with the current form, it sure is possible, I just don't see much
> value in it as it would be just a grey blob sitting on your desktop.
>
> As for the sidebar usecase Andreas mentioned, well, I did propose
> that two months ago, nobody liked it.
>

I like it
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Re: notification plasmoid for desktop

2015-12-16 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:43 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:

>
> to have a quick glance at them when the windows don't cover everything,
> just
> the same use case of any other desktop plasmoid.
> in general, all plasmoid should disaplay correctly on the desktop and when
> they don't it tends to be a bug unless there are specific reasons for
> that. I
> think the problem at them moment is that it doesn't switch from the compact
> representation, right?
>

It does, maybe the sizes are set too big for a default but it does
switch. The actual unusefulness actually comes from the fact
that the applet does not show anything at all in 90% of the cases
as it shows only persistent notifications _and_ they go away
after 10 minutes from it anyway.

So with the current form, it sure is possible, I just don't see much
value in it as it would be just a grey blob sitting on your desktop.

As for the sidebar usecase Andreas mentioned, well, I did propose
that two months ago, nobody liked it.

Cheers
-- 
Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer
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Re: notification plasmoid for desktop

2015-12-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 December 2015, Martin Klapetek wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 7:26 PM, kainz.a  wrote:
> > Hi Martin,
> > 
> > would it be possible or a good idea to have the notifications in the
> > panel and in addition on the desktop. for the desktop the notifications
> > from the pop-up window where shown so you can have a good overview of
> > the notification history on the desktop too.
> 
> Possible, sure. Good idea, not entirely sure.
> 
> What would be the use case? Why would the user want to
> have that on the desktop? What good would it bring?

to have a quick glance at them when the windows don't cover everything, just 
the same use case of any other desktop plasmoid.
in general, all plasmoid should disaplay correctly on the desktop and when 
they don't it tends to be a bug unless there are specific reasons for that. I 
think the problem at them moment is that it doesn't switch from the compact 
representation, right?

-- 
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Re: notification plasmoid for desktop

2015-12-16 Thread kainz.a
the user case would be to add the plasmoid on the desktop to have something
like an dash for the desktop or and that is what I was thinking an sidebar
panel (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/KF5/Sidebar.png)

cheers

2015-12-16 1:46 GMT+01:00 Martin Klapetek :

> Hey,
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 7:26 PM, kainz.a  wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> would it be possible or a good idea to have the notifications in the
>> panel and in addition on the desktop. for the desktop the notifications
>> from the pop-up window where shown so you can have a good overview of the
>> notification history on the desktop too.
>>
>
> Possible, sure. Good idea, not entirely sure.
>
> What would be the use case? Why would the user want to
> have that on the desktop? What good would it bring?
>
> Cheers
> --
> Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer
>
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Re: notification plasmoid for desktop

2015-12-15 Thread Martin Klapetek
Hey,

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 7:26 PM, kainz.a  wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> would it be possible or a good idea to have the notifications in the panel
> and in addition on the desktop. for the desktop the notifications from the
> pop-up window where shown so you can have a good overview of the
> notification history on the desktop too.
>

Possible, sure. Good idea, not entirely sure.

What would be the use case? Why would the user want to
have that on the desktop? What good would it bring?

Cheers
-- 
Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer
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notification plasmoid for desktop

2015-12-15 Thread kainz.a
Hi Martin,

would it be possible or a good idea to have the notifications in the panel
and in addition on the desktop. for the desktop the notifications from the
pop-up window where shown so you can have a good overview of the
notification history on the desktop too.

cheers
Andreas Kainz
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