Re: gimp 2.8.0 rc1, gimp plugins

2012-04-19 Thread Bartosz Świątek
W dniu 20 kwietnia 2012 01:03 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
 napisał:
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Caleb Maclennan  wrote:
>> 2012/4/19 Artur Wroblewski :
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
>>>
>>> any argument against?
>>>
>>> btw. we have some quite old gimp plugins on ftp, i.e. build in 2010, 2009. 
>>> shall
>>> they be removed, rebuilt?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> w
>>
>> Yes. That is an RC for a major release version and there aren't any
>> show-stopper bugs or comparability issues in the previous release that
>> would force us to skip ahead to get the bugs ironed out. At this point
>> I'm having a heck of a time keeping stable systems using TH which is
>> supposed to be STABLE. Adding more backwards incompatible libraries to
>> the dependency mess is going to make that worse, not better.
>
> Ac is stable release for which we have appropriate branch and Th
> is in constant development mode, isn't it?
>
> I am asking because I am bit lost with above arguments - do we
> have some new rules for Th? When they changed? :P

You tell us. AFAIK official rules state that no Betas and RCs are
allowed on HEAD and exceptions need to be discussed. I can't remember
to have read any new rules lately that differ from what I just said,
so if you know something more, please share it with us.

>
> To repeat myself "cvs head != Th ftp". If you send it to the builders,
> then it is your fault.

In general CVS != FTP, but as we all know the first step to get a
package to main FTP is to put it on CVS HEAD. Putting there unstable
versions is very confusing.

>
> Let me rephrase - is anyone planning any work related to Gimp 2.6
> on CVS HEAD in near future? If not, then I will do the merge from
> DEVEL (but please let non-IRC people know if any rules changed
> regarding Th and what's the plan).

That's not an argument. Noone's gonna know if for some reason Gimp 2.6
will need to be patched, fixed, rebuilt or our chief only knows what
else. What's the problem with having an _unstable_ version on DEVEL
anyway?
What is so importand in this version to you so desperately need to put
it on HEAD?


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Re: gimp 2.8.0 rc1, gimp plugins

2012-04-19 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Caleb Maclennan  wrote:
> 2012/4/19 Artur Wroblewski :
>> hi,
>>
>> i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
>>
>> any argument against?
>>
>> btw. we have some quite old gimp plugins on ftp, i.e. build in 2010, 2009. 
>> shall
>> they be removed, rebuilt?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> w
>
> Yes. That is an RC for a major release version and there aren't any
> show-stopper bugs or comparability issues in the previous release that
> would force us to skip ahead to get the bugs ironed out. At this point
> I'm having a heck of a time keeping stable systems using TH which is
> supposed to be STABLE. Adding more backwards incompatible libraries to
> the dependency mess is going to make that worse, not better.

Ac is stable release for which we have appropriate branch and Th
is in constant development mode, isn't it?

I am asking because I am bit lost with above arguments - do we
have some new rules for Th? When they changed? :P

To repeat myself "cvs head != Th ftp". If you send it to the builders,
then it is your fault.

Let me rephrase - is anyone planning any work related to Gimp 2.6
on CVS HEAD in near future? If not, then I will do the merge from
DEVEL (but please let non-IRC people know if any rules changed
regarding Th and what's the plan).

Regards,

w
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Re: gimp 2.8.0 rc1, gimp plugins

2012-04-19 Thread Artur Wroblewski
2012/4/19 Bartosz Świątek :
> W dniu 19 kwietnia 2012 21:32 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
>  napisał:
>> hi,
>>
>> i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
>>
>> any argument against?
>
> Yes. New gegl and babl break API/ABI compatibility with earlier
> versions. Gimp 2.8 RC1 needs them. Also as statet on gimp.org, they
> need to fix some bugs and are looking for more bugs. That's always a
> release stoper.

> But I'm sure noone else will find these arguments critical and we will
> soon see more and more Alpha, Beta and RC version on HEAD and main
> ftp.

I was asking to put it on HEAD. _Not_ to put it on ftp.

Regards,

w
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Re: gimp 2.8.0 rc1, gimp plugins

2012-04-19 Thread Caleb Maclennan
2012/4/19 Artur Wroblewski :
> hi,
>
> i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
>
> any argument against?
>
> btw. we have some quite old gimp plugins on ftp, i.e. build in 2010, 2009. 
> shall
> they be removed, rebuilt?
>
> regards,
>
> w

Yes. That is an RC for a major release version and there aren't any
show-stopper bugs or comparability issues in the previous release that
would force us to skip ahead to get the bugs ironed out. At this point
I'm having a heck of a time keeping stable systems using TH which is
supposed to be STABLE. Adding more backwards incompatible libraries to
the dependency mess is going to make that worse, not better.

Caleb
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Re: gimp 2.8.0 rc1, gimp plugins

2012-04-19 Thread Bartosz Świątek
W dniu 19 kwietnia 2012 21:32 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
 napisał:
> hi,
>
> i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
>
> any argument against?

Yes. New gegl and babl break API/ABI compatibility with earlier
versions. Gimp 2.8 RC1 needs them. Also as statet on gimp.org, they
need to fix some bugs and are looking for more bugs. That's always a
release stoper.

But I'm sure noone else will find these arguments critical and we will
soon see more and more Alpha, Beta and RC version on HEAD and main
ftp.

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gimp 2.8.0 rc1, gimp plugins

2012-04-19 Thread Artur Wroblewski
hi,

i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.

any argument against?

btw. we have some quite old gimp plugins on ftp, i.e. build in 2010, 2009. shall
they be removed, rebuilt?

regards,

w
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Re: packages: babl/babl.spec - ver. 0.1.8 (nfy - builds without vala 0.16 and w...

2012-04-19 Thread Jakub Bogusz
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 07:18:15PM +0100, Artur Wroblewski wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Jakub Bogusz  wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 02:06:26AM +0200, wrobell wrote:
> >>  BuildRequires:       autoconf >= 2.54
> >>  BuildRequires:       automake >= 1:1.11
> >> +BuildRequires:       elfutils-devel
> >
> > Where did this come from?
> 
> libtool: link: gcc -o
> /home/users/wrobell/rpm/BUILD/babl-0.1.10/babl/tmp-introspectUAe1Xd/.libs/Babl-0.1
> /home/users/wrobell/rpm/BUILD/babl-0.1.10/babl/tmp-introspectUAe1Xd/Babl-0.1.o
> -pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wl,--export-dynamic  -L.
> ./.libs/libbabl-0.1.so -lm /usr/lib64/libgio-2.0.so -lz -lresolv
> /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/lib64/libffi.so
> /usr/lib64/libgthread-2.0.so /usr/lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so -ldl
> /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so /usr/lib64/libpcre.so -lpthread -lrt -lelf
> -pthread
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lelf
> 
> Try:
> 
> $ grep -r elf /usr/lib64/*.la
> 
> Not sure where to add the dependency... glib2-devel?

It came from glib2, but it's unnecessary. Only gresource tool should be
linked with -lelf; I've added a patch to avoid adding -lelf to global
LIBS in glib2 build.


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