Re: [packages/xorg-xserver-server] P: xorg-driver-video-modesetting, xorg-driver-video

2016-11-24 Thread Jan Palus
On 24.11.2016 07:23, Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz wrote:
> > Suggests is no longer there, but anyway I assume you don't want xserver
> > to provide video driver even though it provides video driver (so user
> > can select some other one). I don't really care so if there are no
> > objections I will replace Provides with Suggests tomorrow.
> 
> Well, modesetting works on any KMS hardware, so I would go with dropping 
> entire virtual xorg-driver-video thing from all drivers.

Except it might provide sluggish performance even in 2D like on many
NVIDIA chips which still lack reclocking in nouveau. I guess it could be
a valid reason to give user a choice of proprietary driver.
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Re: [packages/xorg-xserver-server] P: xorg-driver-video-modesetting, xorg-driver-video

2016-11-24 Thread Jacek Konieczny

On 2016-11-23 23:12, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:

On 23.11.2016 17:16, atler wrote:

  # Usual desktop setups need least one video driver to run, see
xorg.log which one exactly
  Suggests:xorg-driver-video
+Provides:xorg-driver-video
+Provides:xorg-driver-video-modesetting


nono no, do not provide "xorg-driver-video"!

it's virtual package indicating "any video driver"


But in some cases (like newer Intel cards) the 
xorg-driver-video-modesetting, included in the server package, is the 
best driver one can use. xorg-driver-video-intel is not really 
maintained any more and doesn't work properly with Skylake chips.


Jacek
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Re: [packages/xorg-xserver-server] P: xorg-driver-video-modesetting, xorg-driver-video

2016-11-23 Thread Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz
On Wednesday 23 of November 2016, Jan Palus wrote:
> On 24.11.2016 00:12, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:
> > On 23.11.2016 17:16, atler wrote:
> > >   # Usual desktop setups need least one video driver to run, see
> > >   xorg.log which one exactly Suggests:xorg-driver-video
> > > 
> > > +Provides:xorg-driver-video
> > > +Provides:xorg-driver-video-modesetting
> > 
> > nono no, do not provide "xorg-driver-video"!
> > 
> > it's virtual package indicating "any video driver"
> > 
> > if you changed that "suggest xorg-driver-video" to "provides
> > xorg-driver-video" you may as well just drop it, it's pointless because
> > the dependency will resolve by package itself.
> > 
> > do you see the above comment there above?
> > 
> >  # Usual desktop setups need least one video driver to run, see xorg.log
> >  which one exactly Suggests:xorg-driver-video
> 
> Suggests is no longer there, but anyway I assume you don't want xserver
> to provide video driver even though it provides video driver (so user
> can select some other one). I don't really care so if there are no
> objections I will replace Provides with Suggests tomorrow.

Well, modesetting works on any KMS hardware, so I would go with dropping 
entire virtual xorg-driver-video thing from all drivers.

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Re: [packages/xorg-xserver-server] P: xorg-driver-video-modesetting, xorg-driver-video

2016-11-23 Thread Jan Palus
On 24.11.2016 00:12, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:
> On 23.11.2016 17:16, atler wrote:
> >   # Usual desktop setups need least one video driver to run, see xorg.log 
> > which one exactly
> >   Suggests: xorg-driver-video
> > +Provides:  xorg-driver-video
> > +Provides:  xorg-driver-video-modesetting
> 
> nono no, do not provide "xorg-driver-video"!
> 
> it's virtual package indicating "any video driver"
> 
> if you changed that "suggest xorg-driver-video" to "provides
> xorg-driver-video" you may as well just drop it, it's pointless because the
> dependency will resolve by package itself.
> 
> do you see the above comment there above?
> 
>  # Usual desktop setups need least one video driver to run, see xorg.log 
> which one exactly
>  Suggests:xorg-driver-video

Suggests is no longer there, but anyway I assume you don't want xserver
to provide video driver even though it provides video driver (so user
can select some other one). I don't really care so if there are no
objections I will replace Provides with Suggests tomorrow.
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Re: [packages/xorg-xserver-server] P: xorg-driver-video-modesetting, xorg-driver-video

2016-11-23 Thread Elan Ruusamäe

On 23.11.2016 17:16, atler wrote:

  # Usual desktop setups need least one video driver to run, see xorg.log which 
one exactly
  Suggests: xorg-driver-video
+Provides:  xorg-driver-video
+Provides:  xorg-driver-video-modesetting


nono no, do not provide "xorg-driver-video"!

it's virtual package indicating "any video driver"

if you changed that "suggest xorg-driver-video" to "provides 
xorg-driver-video" you may as well just drop it, it's pointless because 
the dependency will resolve by package itself.


do you see the above comment there above?

 # Usual desktop setups need least one video driver to run, see xorg.log which 
one exactly
 Suggests:  xorg-driver-video


--
glen

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