Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH
Dnia wtorek, 10 lutego 2009, Patryk Zawadzki napisał: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Marcin Krol h...@limanowa.net wrote: * 4GB is more and more common on consumer grade machines (heck, my not-so-now custom made laptop has 4GB) Yet with PAE single process still won't be able to allocate more than ~3.2 gigs of RAM. So if someone really want to use more than 4 gigs of memory x86_64 is way better choice. I don't need to alloc 4 gigs for a single process but that extra 0.8 GB allows me to do my work without enabling swap. +1 Proposed changes: * Reverse the pae bcond +1 Why not just build pae kernels like I do in Titanium for i686? Does it have to be kernel instead of kernel-pae? I'm fine with that if there's at least nvidia module available. +1, +VirtualBox Regards, vip ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:51:24PM +0100, Pawel Golaszewski wrote: Only the Pentium M is problem. *not? VIA C3 (IIRC C7 too) don't do PAE as well. -- WBR, Michael Shigorin m...@altlinux.ru -- Linux.Kiev http://www.linux.kiev.ua/ ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: Rationale: * only very old hardware like first Pentium M chips does not support hardware 3 years is very old? Come on... I have 2 laptops, both are non-PAE... Only the newest one with C2D on board is. Only the Pentium M is problem. Sonoma with PAE was introduced in early 2005, but older versions were still on market. Dunno how long pre-Sonoma processors were produced (suppose ~1 year). IMO it's much too early to abbandon support for that processors... -- pozdr. Paweł Gołaszewski jid:bluesatjabberdotgdadotpl -- If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is Dolby Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost and all the music is free.___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH
* 4GB is more and more common on consumer grade machines (heck, my not-so-now custom made laptop has 4GB) Yet with PAE single process still won't be able to allocate more than ~3.2 gigs of RAM. So if someone really want to use more than 4 gigs of memory x86_64 is way better choice. * some x86_64 servers are forced to run in 32-bit mode due to proprietary software or some other requirements I'd rather virtualize such systems on x86_64 hosts, but thats just me :) Proposed changes: * Reverse the pae bcond Why not just build pae kernels like I do in Titanium for i686? Does it have to be kernel instead of kernel-pae? M. ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Marcin Krol h...@limanowa.net wrote: * 4GB is more and more common on consumer grade machines (heck, my not-so-now custom made laptop has 4GB) Yet with PAE single process still won't be able to allocate more than ~3.2 gigs of RAM. So if someone really want to use more than 4 gigs of memory x86_64 is way better choice. I don't need to alloc 4 gigs for a single process but that extra 0.8 GB allows me to do my work without enabling swap. * some x86_64 servers are forced to run in 32-bit mode due to proprietary software or some other requirements I'd rather virtualize such systems on x86_64 hosts, but thats just me :) Yes, and get to maintain two systems instead of one ;) Proposed changes: * Reverse the pae bcond Why not just build pae kernels like I do in Titanium for i686? Does it have to be kernel instead of kernel-pae? I'm fine with that if there's at least nvidia module available. -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en