Xorg requires hal daemon

2009-02-21 Thread Zsolt Udvari
I've installed the newest xorg and it didn't run. I've googled and
found that the newest xorg needs hal daemon.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging#Requirements
"Besides installing a supported driver, both dbus and hal have to be running."
Please correct in the spec-files!
(I don't want modify them, because I don't know about their "rules"
and I don't know which parts need hal).

Zsolt
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Re: Xorg requires hal daemon

2009-02-21 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:51:35 +0100, Zsolt Udvari wrote:

> I've installed the newest xorg and it didn't run. I've googled and
> found that the newest xorg needs hal daemon.
> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging#Requirements
> "Besides installing a supported driver, both dbus and hal have to be running."
> Please correct in the spec-files!

No, it does not require hal daemon. It's just default _configuration_.

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Re: Xorg requires hal daemon

2009-02-21 Thread Paweł Zuzelski
On Saturday 21 of February 2009 18:56:07 Tomasz Pala wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:51:35 +0100, Zsolt Udvari wrote:
> > I've installed the newest xorg and it didn't run. I've googled and
> > found that the newest xorg needs hal daemon.
> > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging#Requirements
> > "Besides installing a supported driver, both dbus and hal have to be
> > running." Please correct in the spec-files!
>
> No, it does not require hal daemon. It's just default _configuration_.

So imo we should add Suggests or %banner. It is a bit confusing that xorg does 
not work out of the box. There is no error message nor info about hal daemon. 
Not every user or even developer knows that.

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Re: Xorg requires hal daemon

2009-02-21 Thread Pawel Golaszewski
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Paweł Zuzelski wrote:
> > > I've installed the newest xorg and it didn't run. I've googled and 
> > > found that the newest xorg needs hal daemon. 
> > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging#Requirements 
> > > "Besides installing a supported driver, both dbus and hal have to be 
> > > running." Please correct in the spec-files!
> > No, it does not require hal daemon. It's just default _configuration_.
> So imo we should add Suggests or %banner. It is a bit confusing that 
> xorg does not work out of the box. There is no error message nor info 
> about hal daemon. Not every user or even developer knows that.

Please, use banners only as the-real-last-resort... These are really 
annoing.

Suggests would be fine in that case, IMO.

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Re: Xorg requires hal daemon

2009-02-21 Thread Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
On Saturday 21 of February 2009, Paweł Zuzelski wrote:
> On Saturday 21 of February 2009 18:56:07 Tomasz Pala wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 18:51:35 +0100, Zsolt Udvari wrote:
> > > I've installed the newest xorg and it didn't run. I've googled and
> > > found that the newest xorg needs hal daemon.
> > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging#Requirements
> > > "Besides installing a supported driver, both dbus and hal have to be
> > > running." Please correct in the spec-files!
> >
> > No, it does not require hal daemon. It's just default _configuration_.
>
> So imo we should add Suggests or %banner. It is a bit confusing that xorg
> does not work out of the box. 

What do you mean by "doesn't work" btw?

> There is no error message nor info about hal 
> daemon. Not every user or even developer knows that.

Wait for 1.6 before doing anything. It's going to be released soon and it has 
some changes in that area AFAIK.

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Re: Xorg requires hal daemon

2009-02-21 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 20:56:06 +0100, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:

>> So imo we should add Suggests or %banner. It is a bit confusing that xorg
>> does not work out of the box. 

I'd prefer S.

> What do you mean by "doesn't work" btw?

One needs to install hal or append Option "UseEvents" "False" to
xorg.conf?

>> There is no error message nor info about hal 
>> daemon. Not every user or even developer knows that.
> 
> Wait for 1.6 before doing anything. It's going to be released soon and it has 
> some changes in that area AFAIK.

And it has DRI2 I hope...

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Re: Xorg requires hal daemon

2009-02-21 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 01:24:25 +0100, Tomasz Pala wrote:

> One needs to install hal or append Option "UseEvents" "False" to
> xorg.conf?

I mean AllowEmptyInput not UseEvents.

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Re: Xorg requires hal daemon

2009-02-21 Thread Paweł Zuzelski
On Saturday 21 of February 2009 20:56:06 Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> What do you mean by "doesn't work" btw?

I mean that X starts, but mouse nor keyboard does not work. Even ctrl-alt-
backspace does not work. The only way to recover is to ssh from other machine, 
and killall X. Or "SysRq S U B".

BTW to install haldaemon is not enough. One have to start haldeamon.

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