Re: i486 removal from Th
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015, Marcin Banasiak wrote: 2015-02-21 19:00 GMT+01:00 Jan Rękorajski bagg...@pld-linux.org: On Sat, 21 Feb 2015, Tomasz Pala wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:17:47 +0100, Jan Rękorajski wrote: I will remove i486 from Th on 28 February 2015. FTP contents would be moved to obsoleted or unmaintained? Removed, Th snapshots will be left for anyone who wants to use it. And what's the status of x32? Can I STB there somehow, or is this test just some internal thing? I might want to use this arch in a half a year or so, so asking to be up to date. I don't have a builder yet, planing to reuse i486 one. But, there is one big showstopper for x32, that is broken poldek, Already fixed. Thank you! That was fast! And to think I spent few hours with debugger on this :/ -- Jan Rękorajski| PLD/Linux SysAdm | bagginsatpld-linux.org | http://www.pld-linux.org/ ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: i486 removal from Th
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:45:16AM +0100, Jakub Bogusz wrote: To be fair it should be said explicitly, that for Th this also means drop of support for i586 class CPUs and some degraded i686 chips lacking cmov instructions support (there were such VIA chips in mid 200x years, probably rare to find now). I've got an (untested) patch by a colleague that should emulate CMOV on i586, could dust off the archives if there's anyone interested out there. It might also have been included in kernel-image-led-tc package. Optimizing for i586 (nee Pentium) is very wrong for pretty much any other x86 processor due to significant pipeline differences AFAIH... -- WBR, Michael Shigorin / http://altlinux.org -- http://opennet.ru / http://anna-news.info ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: i486 removal from Th
2015-02-21 19:00 GMT+01:00 Jan Rękorajski bagg...@pld-linux.org: On Sat, 21 Feb 2015, Tomasz Pala wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:17:47 +0100, Jan Rękorajski wrote: I will remove i486 from Th on 28 February 2015. FTP contents would be moved to obsoleted or unmaintained? Removed, Th snapshots will be left for anyone who wants to use it. And what's the status of x32? Can I STB there somehow, or is this test just some internal thing? I might want to use this arch in a half a year or so, so asking to be up to date. I don't have a builder yet, planing to reuse i486 one. But, there is one big showstopper for x32, that is broken poldek, Already fixed. -- Marcin Banasiak ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
i486 removal from Th
Hi, I will remove i486 from Th on 28 February 2015. From pld-linux.org: Growing number of packages that either do not build for i486 or are severly crippled (like IcedTea or programs requiring atomic operations) with loss of users of this architecture caused us to finally abandon it. Simply saying - supporting i486 is a lot of pain with no gain now. -- Jan Rękorajski| PLD/Linux SysAdm | bagginsatpld-linux.org | http://www.pld-linux.org/ ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: i486 removal from Th
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:17:47AM +0100, Jan Rękorajski wrote: Hi, I will remove i486 from Th on 28 February 2015. From pld-linux.org: Growing number of packages that either do not build for i486 or are severly crippled (like IcedTea or programs requiring atomic operations) with loss of users of this architecture caused us to finally abandon it. To be fair it should be said explicitly, that for Th this also means drop of support for i586 class CPUs and some degraded i686 chips lacking cmov instructions support (there were such VIA chips in mid 200x years, probably rare to find now). -- Jakub Boguszhttp://qboosh.pl/ ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: i486 removal from Th
On Sat, 21 Feb 2015, Jakub Bogusz wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:17:47AM +0100, Jan Rękorajski wrote: Hi, I will remove i486 from Th on 28 February 2015. From pld-linux.org: Growing number of packages that either do not build for i486 or are severly crippled (like IcedTea or programs requiring atomic operations) with loss of users of this architecture caused us to finally abandon it. To be fair it should be said explicitly, that for Th this also means drop of support for i586 class CPUs and some degraded i686 chips lacking cmov instructions support (there were such VIA chips in mid 200x years, probably rare to find now). Thanks, added this to main page. -- Jan Rękorajski| PLD/Linux SysAdm | bagginsatpld-linux.org | http://www.pld-linux.org/ ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
Re: i486 removal from Th
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:17:47 +0100, Jan Rękorajski wrote: I will remove i486 from Th on 28 February 2015. FTP contents would be moved to obsoleted or unmaintained? And what's the status of x32? Can I STB there somehow, or is this test just some internal thing? I might want to use this arch in a half a year or so, so asking to be up to date. -- Tomasz Pala go...@pld-linux.org ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
