Re: smtpdaemon and sendmail wrapper

2006-11-06 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 11:37:05PM +0100, Tomasz Wittner wrote:
 and what acts as smtp client (has sendmail(1) command) should have
 `P/O: smtp'.

Do you suggest that sendmail command is the same as smtp client? It is not.
There could be a sendmail command implementation doing no SMTP and SMTP
client which do not provide sendmail command (there are a lot of those).

Greets,
Jacek
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Re: smtpdaemon and sendmail wrapper

2006-11-03 Thread Tomasz Wittner
On Tue 31. October 2006 21:41, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:
 imho they are different things
 1. smtpdaemon means something that listens port 25
 2. sendmail wrapper is package that provides /usr/lib/sendmail
 
 are there any program that really needs smtpdaemon in this context?
 
 i'd propose to use /usr/lib/sendmail Provides/Requires pairs when program 
 needs /usr/lib/sendmail binary (and drop smtpdaemon if none actually needs 
 it).
 
IMO, for simplicity and clarity: `P/O: smtpdaemon' should be renamed to 
`P/O: smtpd'
and what acts as smtp client (has sendmail(1) command) should have
`P/O: smtp'.

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Re: smtpdaemon and sendmail wrapper

2006-11-03 Thread Tomasz Wittner
On Tue 31. October 2006 21:41, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:
 imho they are different things
 1. smtpdaemon means something that listens port 25
 2. sendmail wrapper is package that provides /usr/lib/sendmail
 
 are there any program that really needs smtpdaemon in this context?
 
 i'd propose to use /usr/lib/sendmail Provides/Requires pairs when program 
 needs /usr/lib/sendmail binary (and drop smtpdaemon if none actually needs 
 it).
P/O: smtpdaemon (imo better P/O: smtpd) is needed by MTAs for obsoleting each 
other.(?)
 

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smtpdaemon and sendmail wrapper

2006-10-31 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
imho they are different things
1. smtpdaemon means something that listens port 25
2. sendmail wrapper is package that provides /usr/lib/sendmail

are there any program that really needs smtpdaemon in this context?

i'd propose to use /usr/lib/sendmail Provides/Requires pairs when program 
needs /usr/lib/sendmail binary (and drop smtpdaemon if none actually needs 
it).

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glen
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Re: smtpdaemon and sendmail wrapper

2006-10-31 Thread Tomasz Wittner
On Tue 31. October 2006 21:41, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:
 imho they are different things
 1. smtpdaemon means something that listens port 25
 2. sendmail wrapper is package that provides /usr/lib/sendmail
 
 are there any program that really needs smtpdaemon in this context?
 
 i'd propose to use /usr/lib/sendmail Provides/Requires pairs when program 
 needs /usr/lib/sendmail binary (and drop smtpdaemon if none actually needs 
 it).
 
Thank gln for pointing about that - f.e. msmtp can acts as /usr/lib/sendmail 
but it isn't daemon and doesn't listens on 25 port - IMO msmtp (really: 
msmtp-sendmail package) shouldn't provides/obsoletes smtpdaemon.

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